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Apr 9, 2016 1:54 PM
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Fappa said:
I don't know why but the OP reminds me of A-ha - "Take on me"

I was wondering why the tune sounded so familiar! It does sound like it haha. Boom Boom Satellites didn't disappoint with the OP.

The Kizuna system is very interesting, that connection through pain will allow people to really understand each other and stop fighting. The dialogue was way too straightforward though, from Sonozaki. Her explaining to the 7 main I have no problem with, but the earlier part where she was talking to Katsuhira felt random. Sure it was supposed to be random, but it felt too planned, I guess, if that makes any sense. Still enjoyed the first episode though. I love Kaji's Kenma voice :)
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I hate Sonozaki. She went all the way to make the life of 6 kids harder, but she herself wasn't capable of entering into the same ordeal. She is the obvious 7th and she will obviously gonna have problems with that, etc etc

That aside, the quirk + stereopytical characters makes it interesting for me, and I wanna see more of the main 6 in their new shared life. That and I'm a sucker for Trigger art and animation, mostly because almost all anime looks identical in those aspects and they add something different that I like.
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Apr 9, 2016 1:58 PM
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MC is kinda meh, at least right now. Other than that I think this will be fine. I liked both the OP and the ED.
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I hate Sonozaki. She went all the way to make the life of 6 kids harder, but she herself wasn't capable of entering into the same ordeal.


I am not so sure about that.
I do think that she most likely does not feel pain, the same way as protagonist.
After all, protagonist fainted most likely due to shock after being tasered, not because of the pain.

And she does want to connect to them, even if it is negative, which makes her pretty damaged person herself.
Apr 9, 2016 2:07 PM

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I'm gonna be really disappointed if this series sucks because the premise is pretty interesting. It seems like the main character has a bit of an advantage though because if he doesn't feel pain at all. And the colors and character designs in this anime are so pretty, I love the color schemes
Apr 9, 2016 2:08 PM
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Premise makes me think of Sense8. Unrelated people suddenly psychically connected with each other. But it looks like the focus will go elsewhere since the entire first season of Sense8 is built up without bringing all the characters together in one place to have this nice expository infodump that explains everything.
Apr 9, 2016 2:09 PM

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quite interesting plot, also Niko best character, period.
Apr 9, 2016 2:13 PM

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If they are sharing damage than minor stuff like slaps and pinches shouldn't hurt much. I guess its more of internal damage which is shared and not pain? Hope its explained.

Seems interesting so far. Lets see if it sinks or floats.
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Apr 9, 2016 2:35 PM

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Very good first episode I like the OP and the ED wasn't bad I also got Index feels too. And the main MC he is pretty cute too.
Apr 9, 2016 2:38 PM

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That opening is fucking beautiful! Holy shit! My second fave of the this Spring season. A good contender for first. Some eccentric characters. A pretty decent start.

Yuki Kaji. ♥
Apr 9, 2016 3:06 PM

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Very interesting so far. Liked the opening and the soundtrack very much and the setting is intriguing.
Apr 9, 2016 3:09 PM
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This show is objectively the worst of the spring season simple cause it doesn't even follow it's own rules and it's premise doesn't make any sense what so ever.

It's a little kiddy idea(sharing pain =/=world peace), there's no way for it to actually work logically, and it humors me that a top secrete govt. organization would even attempt to do something like this without think how someone is always getting hurt all time time.

The show already shat on itself.

When the women pushes the mc from a fatal height she tells him he survived because the pain was divided, but in the very next seen when the girl punches the guy everyone feels the exact same amount of pain.
This is a plan inconsistency.

Now lets say the pain is divided among 7 billion people, that means no matter how much you hurt yourself you wouldn't even feel 1/7billionth of that pain.

rendering the entire thing useless, cause no one would feel anything.

And if they adjust to where you do feel something, everyone would be constantly dieing all the time, do you know how many people commit suicide a day?

Or how many people grow tumors, cyst or have cancer?

It simply makes no sense what so ever period in any way you put it. This show is bad
Apr 9, 2016 3:11 PM

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I was almost certain the premise would be impossible to establish in a proper fashion but I actually loved it. I really liked all the characters and the designs were just amazing. With this and Luluco Trigger is looking really strong for this season. It's just the 1st episode so far so we'll have to see of course.
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This show is objectively the worst of the spring season simple cause it doesn't even follow it's own rules and it's premise doesn't make any sense what so ever.

It's a little kiddy idea(sharing pain =/=world peace), there's no way for it to actually work logically, and it humors me that a top secrete govt. organization would even attempt to do something like this without think how someone is always getting hurt all time time.

The show already shat on itself.

When the women pushes the mc from a fatal height she tells him he survived because the pain was divided, but in the very next seen when the girl punches the guy everyone feels the exact same amount of pain.
This is a plan inconsistency.

Now lets say the pain is divided among 7 billion people, that means no matter how much you hurt yourself you wouldn't even feel 1/7billionth of that pain.

rendering the entire thing useless, cause no one would feel anything.

And if they adjust to where you do feel something, everyone would be constantly dieing all the time, do you know how many people commit suicide a day?

Or how many people grow tumors, cyst or have cancer?

It simply makes no sense what so ever period in any way you put it. This show is bad

You're still doing it aren't you?

Apr 9, 2016 3:25 PM

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Boring start. At the end it got interesting. But don't expect a deep overall plot. (Kill La Kill already was boring plot/story - mainly good because of the action and OST.) Hopefully the atmosphere will be good and the tasks interesting. Might be good to watch if it's going to be psychological (fights and talking between the chars and the effect of the Kiznaiver system on their behaviour).

I hope it won't be too many episodes (2 cour coud get boring). And I'm not against Mari Okada. I know there were other boring shows where she was involved (which I dropped early or did not even watch because the description/summary sounded boring). But afaik she was involved with the Gundam Iron Blooed Orphans which I liked.

OP was "good" only for me.
Apr 9, 2016 3:27 PM

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Quite enjoyed it. Really interesting, and the animation & sound is great.
Apr 9, 2016 3:28 PM

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We don't know too much yet from this episode, but we did get all the character intros! A MC with a troubled childhood and a girl telling him to regain what he's lost? Check. And then there's Chidori, the most tsundere of osananajimi bound to be out-done by the mysterious pretty girl that I have seen in a while. One of them catches the eye quite immediately, and that's the eccentric Niiyama Niko. She's a bit like a copy-pasted version of Harime Nui from Kill la Kill, but perhaps less murderous.

I'll definitely be watching to see what happens.

Osananajimi best girl.
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smuganimeface said:
This show is objectively the worst of the spring season simple cause it doesn't even follow it's own rules and it's premise doesn't make any sense what so ever.

It's a little kiddy idea(sharing pain =/=world peace), there's no way for it to actually work logically, and it humors me that a top secrete govt. organization would even attempt to do something like this without think how someone is always getting hurt all time time.

The show already shat on itself.

When the women pushes the mc from a fatal height she tells him he survived because the pain was divided, but in the very next seen when the girl punches the guy everyone feels the exact same amount of pain.
This is a plan inconsistency.

Now lets say the pain is divided among 7 billion people, that means no matter how much you hurt yourself you wouldn't even feel 1/7billionth of that pain.

rendering the entire thing useless, cause no one would feel anything.

And if they adjust to where you do feel something, everyone would be constantly dieing all the time, do you know how many people commit suicide a day?

Or how many people grow tumors, cyst or have cancer?

It simply makes no sense what so ever period in any way you put it. This show is bad
Hi there /a/!

Anyway, I really don't know how to feel about this show. One one hand its premise is interesting and could go many places, and on the other hand its execution felt very sloppy and out of nowhere. Hopefully things become clearer or better explained in the future, because all the events seem randomly slapped together just so the premise would become introduced.
The same goes for the character interactions. The characters themselves aren't terrible (Except for the annoying redhead with the terrible voice), but their interactions seem so disjointed.
Animation, visuals, and OST were all on point though. Great OP as well.
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smuganimeface said:
This show is objectively the worst of the spring season simple cause it doesn't even follow it's own rules and it's premise doesn't make any sense what so ever.

It's a little kiddy idea(sharing pain =/=world peace), there's no way for it to actually work logically, and it humors me that a top secrete govt. organization would even attempt to do something like this without think how someone is always getting hurt all time time.

The show already shat on itself.

When the women pushes the mc from a fatal height she tells him he survived because the pain was divided, but in the very next seen when the girl punches the guy everyone feels the exact same amount of pain.
This is a plan inconsistency.

Now lets say the pain is divided among 7 billion people, that means no matter how much you hurt yourself you wouldn't even feel 1/7billionth of that pain.

rendering the entire thing useless, cause no one would feel anything.

And if they adjust to where you do feel something, everyone would be constantly dieing all the time, do you know how many people commit suicide a day?

Or how many people grow tumors, cyst or have cancer?

It simply makes no sense what so ever period in any way you put it. This show is bad

You're still doing it aren't you?



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I'm excited, a pretty good first episode, and probably the best OP i've seen this season. Please don't disappoint Trigger ( ̄ー ̄人)
Apr 9, 2016 3:36 PM
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Pretty good for the first episode, I have high hopes Trigger!

I kinda like the do-s feeling Noriko gives off, and that hime hair style too. omfg she's probably my favorite character so far in this season, but all the characters in this show are pretty cool and unique in their own ways. Except for the lil old childhood red head. I'm also liking the protagonist which is pretty rare for me.
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smuganimeface said:
Z4k said:

You're still doing it aren't you?

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/67970a1a3e34387314465bdb15cff9f4.png[img]


It's my post i'm just sharing it here

You mean like the earlier post where you said you'll personally shred this show then went ahread and posted a pasta from /a/? lmao
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Wow, interesting show. I'd love some more of MC's backstory
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Well, I also wondered what would happen to people who have chronic diseases or people who commit suicide, the premise is good but there are lots of problems with sharing the pain with everyone. Anyways, we'll see how it continues but it was an interesting first episode, probably the best for me this season along with Joker Game: 4/5.
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Can't wait to see where this show goes. This show seems to have potential, let's hope it doesn't all de-rial by taking itself too seriously. Trigger is known for being a bit wacky sometimes with their shows, let's hope they keep some semblance of that atmosphere here.

OP and ED were pretty good.

Love the art style, that signature Trigger look.

Characters insofar are okay, didn't feel anything special yet with them though.

The pain-sharing thing could be an interesting plot device and I hope that they will find some clever uses for it.
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Z4k said:
smuganimeface said:


It's my post i'm just sharing it here

You mean like the earlier post where you said you'll personally shred this show then went ahread and posted a pasta from /a/? lmao


that was mine too, either way i'm still right.
Apr 9, 2016 4:01 PM
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Probably the first 5/5 I'll give for a first episode this season without having a giggle. Shows like this make me wish I understood more Japanese since focusing on the subtitles splits my attention from the animation, of which there is a lot of. More, in fact, than I've seen of anything else this season. The characters were introduced in an interesting way, have good designs, and the use of colour and the style of the backgrounds really just clicks. The soundtrack is also off the beaten path. What can I say, I'm really interested to see where they go with this. If the premise is explored in an interesting way Trigger saving anime may not be a meme.
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smuganimeface said:
Z4k said:

You mean like the earlier post where you said you'll personally shred this show then went ahread and posted a pasta from /a/? lmao


that was mine too, either way i'm still right.

I think the problem with your post isn't that your individual points are wrong but the fact that you haven't really used them to argue that the show is bad.
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that was mine too, either way i'm still right.

>That damage control

You just admitted earlier that you didn't.
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This show is objectively the worst of the spring season

And this is how you know someone's just a shitposter.
Apr 9, 2016 4:10 PM

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Watching the first episode leaves me with only one conclusion:
Space patrol Luluco > Kiznaiver

You know it's true
Apr 9, 2016 4:16 PM

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Holy shit, those production values are nice. This is clearly what trigger have been saving their money for since kill la kill.

Anyway the show seems to be interesting enough so far in terms of the premise, and none of the characters seem obnoxious. If trigger learn their lessons from klk to spread the budget evenly and explore the premise effectively, then anime is not in need of saving, but Trigger will do a pretty good job at it nonetheless.
Apr 9, 2016 4:20 PM

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Impressive start, the OP and ED were pretty good

I like the character designs and the storyline seems really good

4.5/5
Apr 9, 2016 4:21 PM

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OP animation *-*
I really like the chara design
It looks interesting so far
Apr 9, 2016 4:24 PM
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smuganimeface said:


that was mine too, either way i'm still right.

I think the problem with your post isn't that your individual points are wrong but the fact that you haven't really used them to argue that the show is bad.


All the things i said completely ruin the show what are you talking about?
Apr 9, 2016 4:26 PM

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Loving the character designs. Story hasn't really caught my attention yet though. The OP song is amazing.
Apr 9, 2016 4:32 PM
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smuganimeface said:
Gridfire said:

I think the problem with your post isn't that your individual points are wrong but the fact that you haven't really used them to argue that the show is bad.


All the things i said completely ruin the show what are you talking about?

I already thought of basically everything you said, but because it's the first episode I'm keeping an open mind. The only thing you've mentioned that potentially demonstrates an inconsistency is "When the women pushes the mc from a fatal height she tells him he survived because the pain was divided, but in the very next seen when the girl punches the guy everyone feels the exact same amount of pain.", but even then you can't possibly tell "everyone feels the exact same amount of pain". I'm expecting the rest will probably crop up as the series progresses. It's an experiment, so for now the important thing is it works for the five/six Kiznaivers.

EDIT: I thought for a second you were the same person whining about the drawbridge in Kabaneri, but you were actually pretty hot on the defence of that anime's premise. I hope you're not fanboying or a kid, because either way that's pretty gross.
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Pretty good, wasn't expecting anything but it's awesome
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I don't get this at all but oh well. Seems interesting.
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I hate Sonozaki. She went all the way to make the life of 6 kids harder, but she herself wasn't capable of entering into the same ordeal.


I am not so sure about that.
I do think that she most likely does not feel pain, the same way as protagonist.
After all, protagonist fainted most likely due to shock after being tasered, not because of the pain.

And she does want to connect to them, even if it is negative, which makes her pretty damaged person herself.


About the first thing, I do recall the first minute where the protagonist felt pain after the girl jumped off. My guess is that MC and that girl where part of Kiznaiver's first wave of experiments, which leaved him incapable of feeling pain but because of those experiments he felt the pain in that moment. There is people IRL that don't feel pain, so the anime may have drawn inspiration off them, and I think the anime, besides other things, want to show how an insensible, apathetic person feels when he/she starts to connect to other's pain, phisically in this anime. I think it could be transposed (or it will be done in the anime) to the psychological plane, in an experiment of empathy. Basically the main reason why I'll stick to the series.

And the second one, her intentions are pretty obvious. Unless she has somehow been able to hide the pain really well, I do feel her as a pretty awful person for doing that to the others but not really beign capable of going with them. Manipulative and twisted characters don't rub me off, some of them are interesting, but she feels like a coward above all that, and is like they already gave her entire arc already.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Pretty good start. The idea of sharing pain is really interesting without even being complicated.
Lets just hope they wont fuck it up. And I really liked most of characters' appereances. 4.5/5 for ep.



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Apr 9, 2016 5:15 PM

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It was good, a lot of potential.
Also made me think of Persona franchise.
Also art style and animation are topnotch.

Apr 9, 2016 5:43 PM

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Hmmm so we can think of main characters as of "7 modern deadly sins", and through this strange system they are shareing pain which allows them to withstand even fatal damage for a normal person.
But I don't know how this power will allow them to accomplish this victory Sonozaki talked about.
So far I'm really interested in this series and can't wait to know and see more.
Trigger is great at creating strange and a bit fucked up worlds ;d
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FINALLY the TRIGGER we all know and love is back with a great show. Let's face it Ninja Slayer was complete and utter shit. The artstyle is amazing, reminds me of Kill la Kill. And the premise is very unique. Definitely gonna love the show.
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Thought the concept of sharing pain is quite interesting, but the episode felt so dry and the MC is boring. Couldn't really care about what Sonozaki was explaing to the MC, felt like it was irrelevant at this point in time. Might drop the series depending on how the story progresses in episode 2.
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Fappa said:
I don't know why but the OP reminds me of A-ha - "Take on me"

damn beat me to it lol was waiting for it to just say at some point!



I liked it was looking forward to this since it seemed sorta interesting and i really liked the art/music, it's real good the character designs remind me of 7th Dragon
Apr 9, 2016 6:11 PM

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Seeing the blue-haired bitch scream in pain ( I hope it will happen) is the only reason I will keep watching this. Ladd Russo thing.
Apr 9, 2016 6:15 PM

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Trigger is doing it again... a serius show.

I didn't expected it to be this good, the art is amazing and the animation too, but the best is definitely the music, the OP is mesmerizing as fuck.

Trigger just can't stop saving anime.
Apr 9, 2016 6:26 PM

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Not too bad of a first episode, hard to form an opinion yet, but I'm digging the art style. The characters seem interesting, and the music ain't too bad.

Can't comment on the OP or ED though as I completely skipped them.
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Apr 9, 2016 6:31 PM

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This looks interesting
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Looks like it'll be KlK all over again. Promising to deliver an awesome story..but not this episode, eventually. Every episode. And after 20 episodes of such promises, letdown.

If this were any other studio than Trigger I'd be very optimistic but this has all the same signs: a lot of focus on style with vague hits that substance will appear sometime later. I'll keep watching with interest, they're not guaranteed to write themselves into a corner just because KlK. And well, worst case, watching KlK's escalations was pretty entertaining on a weekly basis, it was just the end result that was disappointing.

I just hope they'll make a 9/10 show and not something that looks and smells like a 9/10 but is merely an undercover 6/10.
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