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| Now it feels more like the first season Nice |
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| I can't help but feel like I'd be pretty in to this show if I hadn't seen the first season. But right now it just feels like I want to go back to focusing on the Tuskuru characters throwing out the assholes from Yamato. I just don't feel like I'm following the tone of the show the way it wants me to, I was actively happy when Kurou beat up the main characters last week, and when he possibly killed Munechika last week. It's like we're watching a really long arc from the perspective of the villains/antagonists, quite similar to Bunny Hitler from the first season. |
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fatalbert357 said: stuff First of all do you even read the OP? No discussing the material beyond the anime content. Spoilertag. Second of all - no, the context and the intent of the scene is EXACTLY the same. L-Ryoshi said: The entire episode had me confused as heck. 10 soldiers couldn't run back to the boats fast enough so Munechika has to sacrifice herself? Utter BS. With her strength she could have tied them all together and THROWN them onto a ship out at sea. Arrows and ranged attacks exist. Hell, we have seen that Onkamiyamukai can just spam magic at them. You DO NOT turn your back against an enemy army and leave yourself open to an attack. For it to be possible at least a distraction is needed, which is why what Munechika did acted pretty much like a smoke screen. Then the Oshitaru situation, yet more BS across the boards. First, if he was actually innocent, then how in the world would someone be good enough to poison food that HE prepared undetected? The poison was in the tea and you surely don't expect him to prepare it all by himself? Not to mention that its not that hard for someone to sneak in and poison it when there's a chance. The FACT that its very hard to do is one of many reasons why it did not work in Oshutoru's favor and possible frame-up worked so well. Second, if it was indeed done by one of the other Generals, why the hell would they do so? I mean, your Emperor is dead and your princess was the only one left to succeed the throne. Killing her instead of using her as a puppet ruler? Specially when you're at war with another country and actually need a figurehead? How stupid can those Generals get? First of all that is only true IF the one causing this wants power and NOT simply chaos in the country. Second of all, Anju has clearly been portrayed as someone you would most likely not be able to use as a puppet. And its not uncommon to want to eliminate the present royalty in order to lessen threats to your reign. Third of all, Emperor was the cornerstone connecting Yamato into a whole. Whoever is doing it might not even care if Yamato splits into thousands of warring nations as long as he/she gets the piece of that pie. And finally - whoever did this had the gall to poison a little child and pin it on one of his comrades - a person like that would most likely see absolutely nothing wrong with squashing any possible rebellion with an iron fist. I feel like this entire BS plot is actually something that the Emperor cooked up to instate Haku on his throne, He wants Haku to implicate himself by admitting to all of Yamato that he is the Emperor's brother, saving Oshitaru and his niece in the process. That might be possible, but I doubt Emperor would poison someone who looks like his human daughter did. Otherwise even I cannot begin to explain the current plot, even to myself. What's so unclear? An amnesiac man is found by a girl, they travel to a country and with the generosity of one of officials(Oshutoru), they build a life and home there, expanding their circle of friends and comrades. The said man slowly gets dragged into intrigue and plots of various characters and keeps being unlucky enough to find himself in the middle of worst possible things like a war. Through the course of the show he learns to value his new family and the tragedies and events thrown at him lead towards him trying to be the best version of himself and starting to accept responsibility. Then the said man sees the life he built up start crumbling in front of him so he will do everything he can to protect it. If UTWR1 was a story of a genius with a mysterious past and how he affected and inspired others, UTWR2 is a story of a simple guy who deserved none of this, getting dragged into pits of despair and being forced to play the role he never wanted to have, as he slowly gathers loyal allies around him and tries to deal with what is thrown at him. Its a middle game, so don't expect the story to conclude here This episode was just... not good enough... Thank you for perfect argumentation...oh wait. Amarrez said: It's like we're watching a really long arc from the perspective of the villains/antagonists, We are. Except we are not supposed to see either side as some sort of "villain or antagonist and there's absolutely no reason to see Itsuwari no Kamen's main cast as that. |
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| I like this episode, the culprit maybe try to wreak havoc in the Yamato by make distrust between General |
Petrol said: Reverberate__ said: I have this eerie feeling this season is going to end with one big cliffhanger. I hope not. It will because this season is the bridge to next season (UTA3). Well, damn. At least that's clear. |
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| This is getting more interesting, I can't wait for next week |
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| Damn,knew this episode was going to be intense but nothing like this.That cliffhanger and the look on Haku's face,its going to be another intense episode next week. |
| Alright episode, a lot happened but it has lost it's impact. |
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| The food in Yamato goes through a bunch of food testers before reaching the Emperor, at this point only Honoka would be able to poison him which is why the Generals think she conspired alongside Oshutoru (or at least in the VN they did. I Don't care enough to check how the anime did it. That is speculative, put a spoiler tag if you have to, but without stating any further you're speculating. His words in effect were something along the lines of, "I hope this tea to your satisfaction, because I haven't tasted it myself." Also just because the VN is not going according to the anime, does not give you the right to dismiss the anime outright.  Answer to him! The God of Poison! Magellan! |
PetrolFeb 28, 2016 9:28 PM
| If Yamato are not idiots they will execute Munechika and be rid of one of the 8 pillar generals permanently. Of course this show is fansevicy SoL BS, so shes obviously going to survive to once again bathe in hotsprings lol. I didn't give a shit about the spoiled brat princess or the crazy tyrannical emperor. It's so fucking obvious that Oshutoru was framed. Anyone with half a brain could have figured it out, but nope we got to go along with this cause discount Lelouche and the worst character in the show Dekonpopo have managed to influence the other generals. The whiplash from atmospheres is just way too much and it still tries to throw in cute shit and bad comedy from time to time. Seriously Dekonpopo is just so terrible. He doesn't work as a comedy relief character, he doesn't work as a villain, cause hes just so comically stupid and evil. It's so frustrating, cause you can see the skeleton of a really decent war drama, but everything in this show is so fucking contrived and cliche and the first half of the show gave us no reason to give a shit about any of these boring characters. |
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| okay so many things happened in this episode. I think they are really progressing since only four episodes left I cannot imagine how things will work their way out |
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| Man, this show really became shitty from the Tuskuru invasion onwards. The Mikado is a crappy leader, and an even crappier father. What kind of leader, knowing he was going to die, does not provide for clear lines of succession and ensure support for his successor? What kind of father, knowing he was going to die, does not ensure that his children will be cared for by someone reliable? Not to mention the sheer stupidity of launching a war before you are about to die. You don't start shit for your descendants to clean up. That is just irresponsible. And he clearly knew he was dying, in his conversations with Honoka etc. |
| Gahhh don't cliffhanger there dammit. |
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Jacara said: The Mikado is a crappy leader, and an even crappier father. What kind of leader, knowing he was going to die, does not provide for clear lines of succession and ensure support for his successor? HE did? Anju is supposed to succeed him as a ruler. ITs what she was being prepared for What kind of father, knowing he was going to die, does not ensure that his children will be cared for by someone reliable? He doe snot care and view them as experiments or fakes? Also theoretically the one designed after real Anju's mother is there for it. Not to mention the sheer stupidity of launching a war before you are about to die. You don't start shit for your descendants to clean up. That is just irresponsible. And he clearly knew he was dying, in his conversations with Honoka etc. He did not know. |
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| The plot takes a turn more and more interesting, it seems that having waited, have paid off. Narratively there has been an evolution that even I thought was possible. The designs have dropped in quality but not much, catchy soundtrack. I look forward to the next episode immediately. :D |
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| i don't think tusukuru will kill munechika. So i'm not worried about her. The princess is sick but honestly i don't care. After some fillers and boring episodes i just hope this anime end better than how it started. 3/5 |
| Something is really fishy here and I don't buy the crap about the poisoning (well, it's kinda obvious who did it) but at least we've seen a glipse of what this anime could be if there were such intrigues and political games from a start. But.. if this is all just the staged play meant for Haku to take an action and become a new ruler (as it seems to be), I call this total bulshit. |
Mich666 said: but at least we've seen a glipse of what this anime could be if there were such intrigues and political games from a start. But there were. Haku has been moved around like a pawn by both Emperor and Oshutoru from the very first episode. Most of it was behind the scenes since Haku was not directly involved in the events, but we saw a lot of manipulation happening. We saw Oshutoru maneuver Haku into position where he can be relied upon. We saw Emperor delegating political power and rewarding Haku for things he did not do, we saw Oshutoru manipulate the situation Princess caused to teach her a lesson, etc. Yet again, this exact kind of more open more ruthless political game is utterly impossible in times of peace. |
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| I don't know who to trust anymore. I also have this feeling that Haku is going to use the mask that fat man has since he looks like what's his face. |
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| man, that was pretty intense imo. i feel bad for the empress....it must be her bad day :( the emperor died, Munechika got captured, and she was poisoned by someone. obvious it was not Oshitoru. but i seriously feel bad for her. that must be tough. i wonder what did she do that she must deserve all of that....... i bet that big guy is the culprit...... Munechika tho.... :( for a moment i thought she will turn into a monster like what happened with the big guy. Oshitoru will beheaded ? that ain't gonna happen obviously. i'm looking foward for the next episode. took me a while to understand what just happen after the princess got sick, and i can a little bit predict what will happen in the next episode . this kind of events is kinda common in this kind of story. |
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korn7809 said: Wait so why didn't Haku have the pillars teleport in and grab Munechika? Sounds like bad writing to me. But then again I always expect this kind of thing from action anime. Onkamiyamukai most likely would be shielding the place. We have seen them on ships in the very same scene. |
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| Ostoru was probably and idiot and this shows Writers because they never point out where he got the tea from and Ostoru isn't even putting much of a fight. |
| Front Hooks...Oh yeah... |
LoongFeels said: Ostoru was probably and idiot and this shows Writers because they never point out where he got the tea from and Ostoru isn't even putting much of a fight. Oshutoru does not want to escalate situation into a civil war. |
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| The emperors death was pretty sudden tbh... wondering if hes not really dead The empress going down was shocking hahaha WHO FRAMED OSHTOLL |
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| that was probably one of the dumbest and most nonsensical twists this show has tossed our way.... |
| Oh lol they are wasting 15+ Episodes on fillers and now ruhsing it all at the end. No great battles were shown, invasion basically ended as fast as it began (and they had not one but TWO build up episodes for a invasion that lasted...one episode? what the acutal fuck and some people still speak about "build up" lmao) Damn this anime is so bad, it don't deserve the name Utawarerumono, i guess they really wanted that this anime feels like an imposter just like the subtitle "false faces" imply. Die Season 2, die all main characters i coudln't care less about you and i really hope season 3 will be better than this garbage. |
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