Utawarerumono: Itsuwari no Kamen Episode 10 Discussion

kaimax said:
I've been saying this everytime, If you can't stand the way the anime is going You can
1. Endure it
2. Keep it on hold and wait for when it finishes airing
3. Shut up, Rate this a 1 and Drop it.

Speaking of how this is adapted, this is actually quite good, one example the Scene where Haku fell, and grab The female thief was in the game, and even has it's own CG scene.
whether you like it or not is totally up to you, but claiming that this is a bad adaptation when one has not even played the game is BULLSHIT.

Chendroshee said:


Wow, so you told the viewers to shut up when they state a negative opinion about the show? Nice~

Also, i'm not saying this series is a bad adaptation (i don't even play the game, why do i even bring it into the topic), i'm just saying the anime's way to introduce their character is lacking, that's it.

Kaetokiha said:


Disagree with you. The pace of the first anime was much better than this one and it actually showed almost everything from the original Visual Novel (i read it too). The first series was able to build things between characters faster and in a more enjoyable way.
The first anime didn't need to use 10 episodes to make me care for the characters.

Itsuwari no Kamen has a very bad pace with episodes being mostly fillers without any meaningful content.

Fai said:


So you mean removing most of lore and backstories(so most of the second half of the show is just W T F), stuffing insufferable Errurshit into stories she is not supposed to be in, truncating the main character's backstory itself, covering entire story arcs in 1-2 episode span(ex: Karura story) or outright ERASING Yuzuha's story, is now defined as "great"?....K.

See, you are claiming most episodes are fillers without meaningful content but you DONT know that. I can easily take any show that has a build up phase and claims something in it "is pointless filler".

Kaetokiha said:

What build up phase? C'mon.
They could show they are becoming better friends and stuff in other ways. The only pair you see building something is/was Haku and Kuon (more in the beginning actually) the others didn't need all of that screen just to show some fujoshi comedy.

What do you know about Atui? What do you know about Rurutie? Besides the things they told about themselves when they first appeared, they haven't shared anything about themselves (ok there's the fujoshi thing). The characters are there just for the slice of life and nothing else. The probably will be more important latter, but so far...

The characters are not building anything meaningful here. If you want to fool yourself saying they are, it's ok, but they are not.

Alf_Yuen said:
Having "Oh, this thing is pointless" in mind then you won't find any meaning.

Alf_Yuen said:

Actually, screen time for Atui and Rurutie is only minimal but enough for you to remember them, and that's why they don't get a lot of characterization. On the other hand, there are build ups for Haku in ep 1,2,3,4,5,8,10, and build up for Kuon in 1,2,4,6,7,9,10. Spotlight of their relationship ep 1,2,4,6,9. Basically everything is built around them, but you won't see it if you expect bad experience and bad expection becomes self inducing.

Compare how Haku is now to how he was like when he starts out and you see his growth, which can be seen in ep10. Look at Kuon's change in attitude towards Haku and her problems you know something is brewing, which is highlighted at ep9. And especially for Kuon there are many characters around to reflect her character.

Side characters are sacrificed for more characterization of main characters as shown above. It's an adaption afterall, and time is limited. But at least, we know Atui is a running away princess who is strong enough to protect herself, and is always overly aware of romance. Rurutie is....unfortunately broken on adaption, but her fujoshi tendancy is the key for connection to some other characters. Both of them are princess. While Rurutie is designed to be SoL character, Atui is clearly designed for battle and her ability is shown in ep8.

If you don't want to see things then you don't. Having "Oh, this thing is pointless" in mind then you won't find any meaning. You may say something is not done right or it's not for you, and while I think there is some problem in direction, but "meaningless" isn't something given lightly.

kaimax said:


Because they're wasting their time, and it's much easier to just drop it and rate it a 1 if that can satisfy their ego.



I'm addressing a previous poster where they say "the adaptation is bad", while they have never establish themselves as someone who has played the game in this whole forum.


Also people, When we say we compare this to S;G, it's for how the plot unfolds and there were actual people who did the same kind of complaints, with the earlier parts that seems random and not connected. We are not comparing this plot-wise, story- wise or character-wise. Boht me and Fai was there in the forums witnessing these complainers.

Fai said:

To add to that while we might not know that much about side characters pasts, we do see a lot of their personality in order to establish them and their relationships(kuon's with haku, atui and rurutie's with Kuon, kuon's with her mothers, oshutoru's with haku, and now Anju's with the cast and Anju's with Oshutoru), all of which is key element in building up towards the second half of the story.
And yeah, we also see Haku going from not giving a shit about those people to actually caring for them - would Haku from EP1 be worried that his actions led to Anju's kidnapping? Not really. But he is slowly building relationships, integrating into a life in Yamato and growing attached to it all. For a man without a past, the present is all he can have attachment to.
What's more it establishes a mundane kind of life that the cast has formed and makes the viewer care about the cast. Which is kind of the purpose of the build-up phase.

Not to mention we had PLENTY of foreshadowing almost every episode like

Kaetokiha said:
While i agree that all of this is to build something for the latter part, it's hard to not ask if it's really necessary to have 10+ episodes of just things being built between characters. This was not done in a great way, that's for sure. They have reach the capital in the end of the 3rd episode and i really think they could have showed everything important in more 4 episodes...so 7 episodes instead of 10+ (since i don't now if things will move forward in the next episode). A lot of things showed in these episodes could have been cut out and no one would have complained because they are not important.

I disagree with you about Haku. He obviously grew as a person for sure, but you can see he is still the same lazy guy from the beginning. I don't think he care for others more or less than before. In this episode Kiuru told Haku about the thief and said he wanted them to finish their job fast so they can go after her...what Haku did? He clearly showed he didn't want to go after her...like always.

The only reason he is doing this jobs is because Ukon convinced him with money. He is not doing because he care, he actually doesn't. In the beginning Kuon was forcing him to do some work because he didn't want, now he is being convinced to work. This is a improvement for sure, but are you trying to say we need 6 episodes just for this? 1 episode would be enough to show him learning how to be less lazy.

Alf_Yuen
Won't quote you, but i read everything. What i wrote above is what i think...that they could have left out (or not added since i know some of this stuff is not in the game) just to make things less stagnant. I feel like i watched 10 episodes with barely any content. Most animes have 13 so watching 10 of one with basically nothing happening and nothing interesting is sure a bad thing.

luinthoron said:
Note to self: Never, under any circumstances, should one piss off Kuon.

Kerozinn said:
So is this show EVER going anywhere? 10 episodes and it feels completely and utterly pointless sofar.

LeanMeanMachine said:


Oh, how right you are. And what we saw in this episode is just the tip of the iceberg.

eliterodriguez said:

Yandere Kuon for those that wanted the GIF version.

Got to say that her tail is really strong. Don't know of any cats that can actually due that with their tails. Its like an extra hand appendage lol

Kaetokiha said:
Disagree with you. The pace of the first anime was much better than this one and it actually showed almost everything from the original Visual Novel (i read it too). The first series was able to build things between characters faster and in a more enjoyable way.
The first anime didn't need to use 10 episodes to make me care for the characters.

Itsuwari no Kamen has a very bad pace with episodes being mostly fillers without any meaningful content.

eXtacy67 said:
This should have a slice of life and ecchi tags. Also probably drop the drama tag. This anime is pointless but so are some other anime that I have really enjoyed (such as Non Non Biyori)