(Spoilers) First 5 minutes of the movie

DATS24 said:
somebody can translate the prologue? It explained something like Demiurgost (?)

something like unknown entity, etc

Caio_Esteves said:


Definitely sounds like Demiurge something. Demiurge, in Gnosticism, is a creature that pretended to be a God while the true creation Goddess was off doing whatever.

Lil-Bird said:
Oh man, November can't come soon enough. But this'll satiate me until then, it just kinda sucks we're not going to hear the rest of "Butter-Fly" until then, I was really getting into it.

DarklordVor said:
Also if this follows Digimon 01 and 02, Vamdemon (Myotismon for you casual English dub watcher) is probably going to be the final boss again... now that'd be awesome nostalgia because BelialVamdemon (MaloMyotismon) was awesome!

BliuBliu said:
You can hear the full song at the end of the video. It begins at 1 hour 12 minutes and 50 seconds.

I wouldn't like that. It's just pointless rehashing. Vamdemon wasn't even that good of a villain imo. His only motive was to conquer the world because he thought he was destined to be king because nobody knows why. He had cool powers I guess, but at the end he was just a one-dimensional villain.

DarklordVor said:
Although I'm also hoping to see Apokarimon.. he can't just die in a bomb... I mean as a final boss of the series, he could at least be more evil... so I really hope to see him again.

Lil-Bird said:

Ooooooh, speculation time! Would that mean this Demiurge going to replace Yggdrasil, or is Yggdrasil the Demiurge?

Raydnt said:
I dont think the 02 kids are dead, they just got rekt. Hard.

Jetter_Mars said:


But I must say, this would be a perfect way to erase them from canon. Because, apparently, everybody hates 02.

Goku1085 said:
Also, I have a theory (please try to put all the hate aside and just tell your objective opinion on this) that the 02 cast will return as the main protagonists in the later-last movies of Tri. Toei tends to follow this pattern. Tai and co. defeat the first main villains, but when the later villains return as stronger ones, then Davis and co. step in and destroy them. I most certainly believe that the 02 cast is NOT dead and will probably be saved by the 01 cast on a later movie only to help them and destroy the final villain. Cause if you pay attention to the 02 epilogue it gives more of a 02 aura (and I know that's the case cause it's 02 duh) with Davis' son taking the role of the new leader of the DigiDestined. So, yeah. I believe that Davis and 02 cast will put the final piece again. It's just my belief and all other opinions are respected and well received.

Goku1085 said:
I really don't get all the hate for 02. Personally, I'm a huge fan of both 01 and 02 and my favorite characters to date are Davis and Tai. I love 02 cause it gives the feeling of the predecessors giving the best wishes to the new generation-successors to take their place (I adore this kind of genre). I'm gonna stick with the 02 epilogue cause I'm pretty sure that they will stick with that too in the end.

Raydnt said:

Well for me, the only thing good about 02 was that we got to see the original digidestined again.
Everything else? Garbage.
Especially Davis.

Goku1085 said:
I really don't get all the hate for 02. Personally, I'm a huge fan of both 01 and 02 and my favorite characters to date are Davis and Tai. I love 02 cause it gives the feeling of the predecessors giving the best wishes to the new generation-successors to take their place (I adore this kind of genre). I'm gonna stick with the 02 epilogue cause I'm pretty sure that they will stick with that too in the end.

Also, I have a theory (please try to put all the hate aside and just tell your objective opinion on this) that the 02 cast will return as the main protagonists in the later-last movies of Tri. Toei tends to follow this pattern. Tai and co. defeat the first main villains, but when the later villains return as stronger ones, then Davis and co. step in and destroy them. I most certainly believe that the 02 cast is NOT dead and will probably be saved by the 01 cast on a later movie only to help them and destroy the final villain. Cause if you pay attention to the 02 epilogue it gives more of a 02 aura (and I know that's the case cause it's 02 duh) with Davis' son taking the role of the new leader of the DigiDestined. So, yeah. I believe that Davis and 02 cast will put the final piece again. It's just my belief and all other opinions are respected and well received.

Orvieto said:


QFT.



Well, I've certainly never seen so much shit opinion in one post before.

Seriously, though. If you want to know the reason why people hate the 02 cast so much, even Ken (who anywhere else would be a great character), its because a great deal of the fandom watched Adventure in their childhood, and 02 later on in life (though this also may be the case for people who watched them successively). For those people, the only reason they watched the sequel was because of their childhood characters. To see them not only lose their protagonist role, but also be actively sidelined antagonizes the 02 cast for them.

There are two types of shows most people who watch the sequels fall under. For the characters, and for the world.

Fate Stay Night is a example of a series where people follow sequels because of the world/concept of the Grail Wars have them enraptured. Thus, the popularity going from F/SN to F/Z, and vice versa, and the reason for the successful Fate/Apocrypha series. This is also the case with Pokemon. People subscribe to the sequels because of the world of Pokemon fascinates them.

Digimon is an example of the second. A story where people come for the world, and stay for the characters. Digimon would just be considered a Pokemon-esque show if it wasn't for the coherent plot and the great characters. People want a sequel in this case where they see their old cast, not be introduced to new ones. The greatest insult comes in from the producers going half-way, giving us new characters but also keeping the original and sidelining them.
The entire show becomes a waiting game of "when do the 'real' protagonists come back" which, in the case of 02, was not enough. It detracts from the new cast as people are too distracted by the hope of the original taking back their show to appreciate the new cast in their own right. It also snubs the original characters because there is a (real and legitimate in this case) feeling that the producers are actively snubbing the old.

As for your pet theory, let me be the first to say it does not happen. The absolute worst thing this movie could ever do, for the reason above, would be the 02 cast taking leading roles in any of the movies and the 02 epilogue being legitimized, for reasons you're all too aware of.
I'd prefer the 02 cast staying dead, as unfortunately unlikely as it may prove to be. They can be resurrected in the last minute of the final movie, the point is i want them benched if not entire out in this series.

Goku1085 said:


I'm sorry, but I'll have to totally disagree with you man. I, for starters, am a 01 fan and watched the first season in my childhood (which I loved from the bottom of my heart), but that didn't affect the way I saw 02. At first, I got so ecxited that I saw the 01 cast (that was the main reason I started watching it), but later I got really fond of the 02 cast as they all had so much potential.

Either you like it or not, the 02 cast are the ones that continue the story (and probably end it too cause there's no next generation in the Adventures Universe). At least, that's the picture Toei wants to give. I never once got the hate for 02 (besides the extreme supportiveness of the 01 kids). Of course, as a fan you're to like and/or dislike anything the companies give. But, just because you despise 02, it doesn't mean everyone does and it certainly doesn't mean that Toei will change their plans cause of how you feel about it. I, for once, understand on some degree your disappointment on 02 and respect your opinion, but sadly don't feel this way about it.

Also, on another note I guessed that the 02 kids would appear on later movies, but I didn't think this fast cause I mistook their importance on Tri. If you've noticed on the new poster for the second movie it showcases the next couple of kids which are Mimi and Joe along with a dark-ish ImperialDramon. That means two things/guesses imo:

1) That the 02 kids will start appearing or being mentioned on the second movie and since it shows two kids each time and there are total 6 Tri. movies, the couples will be the following (again my guess):

a. Tai and Matt for the 1st movie
b. Mimi and Joe for the 2nd movie
c. Izzy and Sora for the 3rd movie
d. T.K. and Kody for the 4th movie
e. Kari and Yolei for the 5th movie
f. Davis and Ken for the 6th movie

Each movie gives a real meaning to the two kids on the poster. If you've watched the first Tri. movie you'd see much emphasis on the relationship between Tai and Mai and how their bond was strong enough to take down Alphamon. That is why I'm guessing that Davis and Ken (with the help of all the kids of course) will be the "final pieces" to Tri.

2) That the "Adventure" nostalgia of Tri. contains 02 as canon too. I'm telling you that the theory is getting stronger and stronger by the minute. :P

Again, terribly sorry if I, in any way, insult your opinion or anything cause I don't plan nor intend to. I'm just supporting mine, that's all! ;)