Rokka: Braves of the Six Flowers (light novel)
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KamiCity said: CookingPriest said: Frankly it was needed. It was a sign that this will be different. A lot of people(including me) would have overlooked this as "another fantasy show" Lol but it's not different, and it is another fantasy show Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. |
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world."  Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
IronLobster said: KamiCity said: Lol but it's not different, and it is another fantasy show Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. And another Psychological show. xD |
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| Fremy looks cute enough, now I really wonder what is her backstory to make her so little confident in others. GSupernova said: Also, these guys have some guts to call Adlet's fighting style cowardly when they just attempted to assassinate someone without warning or provocation based on second-hand knowledge. That's some evil shit right there. Totally agreed. |
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IronLobster said: KamiCity said: Lol but it's not different, and it is another fantasy show Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. Pretty damn sure fantasy elements are involved, you can have a mystery in a fantasy genre you know... and psychological elements. For the record, i'm not saying it's bad or anything i'm actually loving it. However, I don't lie to myself and pretend it isn't something that it very clearly is. |
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Zefyris said: IronLobster said: Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. And another Psychological show. xD tl;dr: it is nothing like a "yet another fantasy show". Marketing up the inconsistency with amount of braves seems like the most direct way of saying "hey we won't be just another fantasy show" |
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KamiCity said: Granted at this point in the anime everyone would think that.IronLobster said: Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. Pretty damn sure fantasy elements are involved, you can have a mystery in a fantasy genre you know... and psychological elements. For the record, i'm not saying it's bad or anything i'm actually loving it. However, I don't lie to myself and pretend it isn't something that it very clearly is. "Heroes venture out to battle demon lord" is pretty much the theme everyone sees so far, especially because they just battled some demons. I'm just glad that it's not just that. |
| I've read the novel and now watching the anime, it's good I'm not saying it's not but just because a clearly fantasy anime/novel has twists and turns doesn't make it a "psychological" show |
Raz1515Jul 19, 2015 4:35 AM
Raz1515 said: 2deep4uI've read the novel and now watching the anime, it's good I'm not saying it's not but just because a clearly fantasy anime/novel has twists and turns doesn't make it a "psychological" show |
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Raz1515 said: Maybe you should check back what the "psychological" tag means for a show. Indeed, having twists and turn doesn't make it psychological. If that was just that, it would be fantasy/Mystery and no psychological tag.I've read the novel and now watching the anime, it's good I'm not saying it's not but just because a clearly fantasy anime/novel has twists and turns doesn't make it a "psychological" show |
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Raz1515 said: I've read the novel and now watching the anime, it's good I'm not saying it's not but just because a clearly fantasy anime/novel has twists and turns doesn't make it a "psychological" show But Rokka could be called as psychological series, i mean |
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| you're kind to me so i wanna kill you.... k |
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| I really like Fremy, I hope that her past will be revealed ^^ |
Axelucard_ said: you're kind to me so i wanna kill you.... k "Don't be kind to me, or it will make me want to kill you" . That's a nice warning rather than a threat. |
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| ...things are slowly getting tense love the Art and the characters ...Aldet makes a really good protagonist |
| Femy definitely looks to be a great character, I approve! Though of course she gets attacked by Princess Bunny and his lackey lol. Wonder how she ended up being called a Brave killer tho. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| Fremy is easily the best girl hands down..She is so badass and I'm freaking loving Adlet these two are two amazing characters (Can I ship them?lol). Nashetania I didn't like from Ep.1 and now that Fremy is in play she shits all over Nashetania IMO So looking forward to see the other's come into play, love how each character really stands out. Also I laughed when everyone called Adlet's fighting style cowardly, I mean it does seem that way at first but then think about it, why not use everything to help you in the battle (Modern Warfare 2 heartbeat LOL) I also liked the gore, add's to how the world really is about to enter hell and just add's that level of drama to the show. Yet another amazing episode. Really digging this anime alot. |
| I wanna understand why! Why would they attack each other, i cant think of anything other than some kingdom affairs. Obviously Adlet not knowing this makes me even moooore curious. Can't wait for the next episodes! WAAAAH loving this anime! :) |
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| Was still good, it was fun, but the action was a bit unsettling. Hoping this won't descend into being another Seraph in action terms. |
| Awesome episode. Rather the best episode up till now. The tension at the end was unbelievable. Don't kill Flamy 😭 she's too hot to die! |
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| Well, this episode wasn't much better from the previous one but at least something happened in more than 5 minutes. It's an improvement. But it really irritates me that we STILL haven't even reach synopsis point in plot after 3 episodes in. That is very disappointing. They're dragging the plot for no reason and at this point I have honestly no idea what they want to achieve by it. I'll give it one more episode because it looks like we'll finally move in plot from introduction. |
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| I just want to answer the... HikaruIzumi said: WThey're dragging the plot for no reason and at this point and... Kytrarewn said: Waste of an episode. ...part. Not a single bit was dragged on or wasted. All of this is necessary. The onl ything they could remove safely of this episode was the fight with the fiend. Which is, obviously, going to make the episode even more "boring" for peoples coming for the "action" part. They're paying more respect to the novels than any animation team has paid in the last 5 years. You may think it's slow, but that's the first time the pace is appropriated and not rushed in a freaking while. Especially for a mystery/Psychological novel, rushing destroy everything. Let it be said. If this is for RUSHING IT, then they're better of not doing the adaptation at all because they would at the very least kill the mystery completely. So NO, if you came for watching an action anime, you mistook the show to watch. If you came for the mystery part, don't you dare to complain about it being it done properly. If you want rushed adaptation, you have thousands of shows at your disposal. I can't say the same for peoples wanting proper respect shown to the original work. |
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| Damn, Adlet is prepared for anything. And Fremy wasn't kidding that the Braves will start killing each other once they saw her. Seems like the big surprise comes next episode. Can't wait to meet the rest of the Braves! (^_^) |
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling. |
| Fremy x Adlet? |
HikaruIzumi said: They're dragging the plot for no reason and at this point I have honestly no idea what they want to achieve by it. Dragging what out? I have yet to see what could be trimmed in those episodes as every scene seems to be used to build up either characters, the world or foreshadow and set up future plot points. Kytrarewn said: Waste of an episode. We've only got 12 episodes, and we finished this one in the same place we ended the last one, with little additional data on any character (I guess now we know that the fifth hero is named "Maura of the Mountain"). The most interesting thing that happened was Fremie going on about "People of your generation", making the viewer think that she's a lot older than she actually appears. Let's see: 1) we got more characterization to the main character showcasing his less trusting and more manipulative sides. 2) we got a lot of Fremy characterization, some info about her power too. 3) we got world building and stakes set-up by continuing to show fiends damage. 4) We got characterization of tension between Goldof and Nashetania 5) we got showcase of Goldoff's strength. 6) we got some very obvious future plotpoint set-ups with the temple, etc. How is that "nothing happened"? |
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Zefyris said: So NO, if you came for watching an action anime, you mistook the show to watch. If you came for the mystery part, don't you dare to complain about it being it done properly. If you want rushed adaptation, you have thousands of shows at your disposal. I can't say the same for peoples wanting proper respect shown to the original work. Here is the problem with your logic. I came for the mystery part and got action anime and filler episodes at that. All that has happened in these episodes is some fights, character interaction and 4 main characters (out of 7). This isn't what I signed up for. And no, this isn't appropriate approach at all. It's just going to discourage people who want to see the mystery because it looks like it was just a hook they won't deliver on. At this point, I'll be grateful if at least one episode will be dedicated to the mystery before they return on the path of the usual quest to kill the demon king you can find in almost every fantasy anime. Also, regarding your point about respecting original material, novels are completely different medium than anime you CAN'Τ do the exactly same thing in both and expect to yield the same results. What works for one, doesn't work for another. For that very reason manga aren't adapted one chapter per episode but at a faster pace. And for that very reason this treatment of plot is very inappropriate for an anime. They could have easily put these 3 episodes into 1 and half. Just cut all the pointless chatter and fights. If we have a core that we know (as audience) it will be easier for us to deduce who isn't the extra and the mystery will lose a huge part of its charm. Which is why vast majority of these "one extra" type of mystery anime get to the point before the audience gets to know the characters so that we suspect everyone. Regardless of how I look at it, the way they're adapting it is just one huge fail. CookingPriest said: Dragging what out? Correct, so far, they're dragging out nothing at all because there's no plot. 3 episodes in and we still haven't even gotten to premise. CookingPriest said: I have yet to see what could be trimmed in those episodes as every scene seems to be used to build up either characters, the world or foreshadow and set up future plot points. That's exactly the problem. If they want us to be clueless and have more of the mystery of who is the extra they shouldn't be focusing on character interactions so hard. We shouldn't know them. We should suspect everyone but at this point, we won't. When you do mystery, you're not supposed to tell the audience who isn't the culprit, you're supposed to make the audience believe everyone can be. |
SuiNoByakkoJul 19, 2015 12:19 PM
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| This seems quite good so far. Shame only 12 episodes though. In things that have a multitude of main characters that gather together, I always end up getting really stressed as the episodes run out. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Oh man Fremy is so awesome, please make a statue of her! Such awesome outfit ★o★ it seems they're trying to kill her because of the rumours that she is a Brave killer. |
GSupernova said: HikaruIzumi said: That's exactly the problem. If they want us to be clueless and have more of the mystery of who is the extra they shouldn't be focusing on character interactions so hard. We shouldn't know them. We should suspect everyone but at this point, we won't. When you do mystery, you're not supposed to tell the audience who isn't the culprit, you're supposed to make the audience believe everyone can be. I mean... what exactly do you want out of the "mystery" then? Will you feel anything at all if you don't know any of the characters at all and find out who is the extra? Where's the conflict there? Where's the drama? Or will you just go "Oh okay, so that's who it was" and stop watching? Nothing that's been revealed so far gives any indication of who the Brave Killer is. I could spin a conceivable theory about any of the characters(sans Adlet because he was imprisoned for awhile) revealed thus far including Maura, and people have in previous threads. Actually, even adlet. The killing of potential rokka stopped around the time he was imprisoned. But yeah, exactly. His post makes n osense whatsoever. WHat he's asking for is exactly what bad mystery anime will provide. Sub-par in everything. Character depth, clues, the psychological aspect. |
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HikaruIzumi said: Really? So mystery to you is throwing a bunch of people who all seem crazy at first glance into a room, claiming there's a killer in there and then all of sudden random people die and that's it? Sounds great.That's exactly the problem. If they want us to be clueless and have more of the mystery of who is the extra they shouldn't be focusing on character interactions so hard. We shouldn't know them. We should suspect everyone but at this point, we won't. When you do mystery, you're not supposed to tell the audience who isn't the culprit, you're supposed to make the audience believe everyone can be. |
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| I can't believe people are complaining about things that make this series what it is. Has anime become such a chore to do that either give me condensed, summed up version of everything or gtfo? Slow pacing, small details, extended shots in dialogues - those are the things that make this show so amazing, how can anyone ask for series not to have character interactions? Well of course it depends on what are you looking for here and in anime in general. Anyways, perfect episode again. Fremy was the highlight of the episode, she seems as well to have some intriguing background and backstory, not to mention her amazing character design those eyelashes, oh jesus. I feel like I'm repeating things that other people already said but the fact that Adlet doubted Fremy and didn't just bravely turn his back to her really added a lot to his character. This episode seems to have even more eyecandy visuals, it will be a bit of a shame to soon leave such lush forests. |
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HaymsHayms said: I wanna understand why! Why would they attack each other, i cant think of anything other than some kingdom affairs. Obviously Adlet not knowing this makes me even moooore curious. Can't wait for the next episodes! WAAAAH loving this anime! :) It was mentioned already. Goldof said that the Brave Killer resembled a white hair girl with a gun which describes Fremy. If she is or not the Brave Killer, that is yet to be revealed but I think that the fact that she is the current prime suspect of being the Brave Killer is a good reason to attack her to keep Adlet away from her. Kytrarewn said: Zefyris said: I just want to answer the... ...part. Not a single bit was dragged on or wasted. All of this is necessary. The onl ything they could remove safely of this episode was the fight with the fiend. Which is, obviously, going to make the episode even more "boring" for peoples coming for the "action" part. I'm not sure why I'm watching this, I decided to watch the first episode and was very impressed, and so have continued watching it. I would just rather have the beginning rushed and the actual meat of the series be well paced, and often when I see a content-light ep. 3-6, I also wind up seeing an extremely rushed ep. 12-13 with setup, final battle and resolution in the span of 24 minutes. I'm intentionally keeping myself unspoiled on this one, so I'm just saying what I'm seeing from the perspective of someone who knows absolutely nothing about the source material. And, from that perspective, this episode seemed wasted. I sincerely hope I'm proven wrong by the end of the series, as you imply. You're better off not reading the posts of how the episode was wasted and mroe blah blah blah. I have read the LN and I can't tell you nothing was wasted. This is foreshadowing and what you think wasn't that important will become the whole clue to find who's the seventh/impostor as describe in the Sypnosis of the series. Zefyris said: As mentioned before, Goldof investigated that the Brave Killer resembled Fremy and it was said in the last minutes of Episode 2. It has yet to be confirmed but so far it is the only clue we have. And considering Fremy's attitude, about her meeting with the Rokka no Yuusha would be kill or get killed, you can assume there's something suspicious about the whole situation. Then again, people saying the episode was wasted are either ignoring or are making themselves blind against this important things being mentioned.GSupernova said: I mean... what exactly do you want out of the "mystery" then? Will you feel anything at all if you don't know any of the characters at all and find out who is the extra? Where's the conflict there? Where's the drama? Or will you just go "Oh okay, so that's who it was" and stop watching? Nothing that's been revealed so far gives any indication of who the Brave Killer is. I could spin a conceivable theory about any of the characters(sans Adlet because he was imprisoned for awhile) revealed thus far including Maura, and people have in previous threads. Actually, even adlet. The killing of potential rokka stopped around the time he was imprisoned. But yeah, exactly. His post makes n osense whatsoever. WHat he's asking for is exactly what bad mystery anime will provide. Sub-par in everything. Character depth, clues, the psychological aspect. Kurosaki_Itsigo said: From what currently know, he doesn't. Also it has been mentioned only Saints have special powers and that they are all women. Does Adlet Have any special kind of power? |
ValhasDrewJul 19, 2015 1:35 PM
robis798 said: I can't believe people are complaining about things that make this series what it is. Has anime become such a chore to do that either give me condensed, summed up version of everything or gtfo? Slow pacing, small details, extended shots in dialogues - those are the things that make this show so amazing, how can anyone ask for series not to have character interactions? Well of course it depends on what are you looking for here and in anime in general. Anyways, perfect episode again. Fremy was the highlight of the episode, she seems as well to have some intriguing background and backstory, not to mention her amazing character design those eyelashes, oh jesus. I feel like I'm repeating things that other people already said but the fact that Adlet doubted Fremy and didn't just bravely turn his back to her really added a lot to his character. This episode seems to have even more eyecandy visuals, it will be a bit of a shame to soon leave such lush forests. This series looks nice is all aspects but the bad CGI feinds. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
HikaruIzumi said: CookingPriest said: Dragging what out? Correct, so far, they're dragging out nothing at all because there's no plot. 3 episodes in and we still haven't even gotten to premise. I am really wondering what your definition of "plot" is, because you keep using that word and I don't think you know what it is. Those three episodes had NOTHING BUT PLOT so far. That's exactly the problem. If they want us to be clueless and have more of the mystery of who is the extra they shouldn't be focusing on character interactions so hard. We shouldn't know them. We should suspect everyone but at this point, we won't. When you do mystery, you're not supposed to tell the audience who isn't the culprit, you're supposed to make the audience believe everyone can be. A good mystery is NEVER made upon you being clueless. A good mystery comes from knowledge you gain. Why should one suspect or care about a character they know nothing about? You are acting as if viewer guessing the answer is the only focus of a mystery genre. Mystery is about the characters experiencing it too. And so far I did not see them revealing anything about the characters that would cross them out from being suspects. In fact, by learning parts of their backstories and characterizations there are more reasons to suspect each of them and to CARE about whether they are who they say they are or not. At the same time the world build up is equally as important since it is not set in "our times, our world". Getting a feel of where the characters are and why is just as important because they do not live in a box. Really so far you are just complaining that it is not a simple "whodunnit" mystery and that each character seems to have an actual backstory and motivation beyond being suspicious. |
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| episode was so good, i wouldn't change a thing oh lord, and that character design.. idk who am i in love with more |
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| To put it simple, a good mystery is something that gave you all the clue to answer it by yourself yet was too difficult for you to solve until a character in the show solve it with the same clue you had. And a good one doesn't wait the end of it to give you everything. It gives them to you quite a bit in advance so that you have the time to think... And be beaten by that character. So you need to know a lot of things. In advance as much as possible. Especially in a word with magic involved, because there's a need to understand how the magic works and what can be done or not if you want to properly include that criteria in the mystery without betraying the reader. This shows doesn't only has to give you the info about the mystery, but about the character as well, so that the psychological part build up. There is NO wasted time (except a few seconds here and there that were probably used to adjust the time and have the episodes finish right on cliffhanger places)And it ISN'T going to rush near the end as well, there's no fear to have on that. |
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| The first episode of this series really felt bad to me but it is really getting better. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
KamiCity said: IronLobster said: Except it's not another fantasy show; it's another mystery show. Pretty damn sure fantasy elements are involved, you can have a mystery in a fantasy genre you know... and psychological elements. For the record, i'm not saying it's bad or anything i'm actually loving it. However, I don't lie to myself and pretend it isn't something that it very clearly is. I already know what you're saying. I'm not saying it's not fantasy, nor am I lying to myself. I'm just saying it's not just ANOTHER fantasy show. Saying it that way implies that fantasy is the staple of this show, which it is not. For the entire first volume, it's a mystery and the fantasy is just the setting. |
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world." Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
| Fremy would be the only reason I still watch this. She remind me of BRS. |
| I thought I was the only person who thought Adlet's fighting style was rather cowardly. He's not the strongest man in the world, but he might be the smartest, when it comes to fighting offensively. Anyway, Fremy's great. Way better than Nashetania. Can't wait for the next episode. Starting to fall in love with the OP and ED. |
HikaruIzumi said: Here is the problem with your logic. I came for the mystery part and got action anime and filler episodes at that. All that has happened in these episodes is some fights, character interaction and 4 main characters (out of 7). This isn't what I signed up for. And no, this isn't appropriate approach at all. It's just going to discourage people who want to see the mystery because it looks like it was just a hook they won't deliver on. Not everything is going to be spoonfed to you. Those "filler episodes" are going at an actual correct pace. If your patience is so short, then maybe it's better that you drop this show. HikaruIzumi said: That's exactly the problem. If they want us to be clueless and have more of the mystery of who is the extra they shouldn't be focusing on character interactions so hard. We shouldn't know them. We should suspect everyone but at this point, we won't. When you do mystery, you're not supposed to tell the audience who isn't the culprit, you're supposed to make the audience believe everyone can be. That sounds like a horrible mystery. We've only met 4 out of 7 heroes and you're already talking about who isn't the culprit? |
| "whats so special about bonzai trees?" "They are the loli of the tree world." Inganock of the Brightest Flame |
| Nice episode. I'm liking Fremy. That was a tense end. Can't wait for next episode! |
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| I still don't trust Goldof Adelt got Fremy to join but dat end |
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