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Jan 4, 2014 1:34 PM

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I think I'd prefer actually dying to losing my memories/who I am.
Jan 4, 2014 1:53 PM

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VerneJules said:
To actually connect a fictional game to the real world through practical concepts of magic, the author couldn't have impressed me enough. :D

So to speak, the Elder Tale itself is an actual universe where its "god" are the game developers of our world. We are introduced with three phases (three times the World Fraction was used) of how the game has evolved. The first one is the development of the game concepts including both the initial history of the game and the introduction of demi-humans or monsters. This shows that world-class magic was able to affect the whole universe of Elder Tale or the game itself. Moreover, the second phase or the second time the world fraction was used indicated that it was possible for world-class magic to interact with people of a higher dimension (players) as they are able to control their characters (adventurers) in a lower dimension (the game) and actually affect that world. However, the shocking thing that is revealed is in the third phase itself (the third time the World Fraction is used, or what they call the Apocalypse). Ignoring the laws of physics of our universe or dimension, it is shown that it was possible for world-class magic not only to affect the game itself, not only for players from the higher dimension to affect the Elder Tale universe, but also to affect our universe itself (absorbing the consciousness of the actual players into game). This is a very interesting thing and how I wished that it is actually possible.

Anyway, to be called an archmage (dai majutsushi) if Shiroe had been playing Elder Tale for more than 9 years is... Hehehe, well I suppose that's awesome. :D


I couldnt agree more.
The is ingeniusly describing the development of a computer MMORPG game from the perspective of the characters in the game universe. It's a great way of story telling for non-gamers to get introduced to a game world.

Log Horizon keeps getting better and better...
Jan 4, 2014 2:31 PM

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Losing memories huh? atleast its better than Dying
Jan 4, 2014 2:41 PM

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So when they die they lose the memory. It's getting more and more complicated and interesting. I loved the talk-about episode.
Jan 4, 2014 3:22 PM

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love the continued world building but I hope this anime gets a second season.....
no way they can produce a satisfactory ending with just one season....

Jan 4, 2014 3:25 PM

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I'm gradually losing interest.

I hope we'll go somewhere with this context we've been building.
Jan 4, 2014 3:32 PM

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Airsyk said:
I think I'd prefer actually dying to losing my memories/who I am.

Losing your memories is practically same as dying
Jan 4, 2014 3:33 PM

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NettoAzure said:
Its because the game lore is that this world was essentially OUR WORLD. (See how Regan mentions a Time more glorious than the one where the 4 races lived together?) See all of the rusted cars and Modern skyscrapers in Akiba?

Still, I think your "fictional world" idea is just another conception of a parallel world to be honest.


I dont think it's a parallel world, but I do agree it feels like the fictional Elder Tales world is set in a futuristic world that has reverted / returns back to nature.

ie collapse of our advanced civilisation leading to return to medieval type world, with magic

It feels more like the player's real world consciousness ie "psyche" has merged with their in game avatar bodies.

It's likely they are not physically in the game world but experiencing the physical awareness of the game world as their real consciousness.

Does anyone else think there is a link to why the in game portal system doesnt seem to work? I have a feeling it's related to the "magic" that brought them into the Elder Tales game world and will probably relate to their ability to return to the real world.
Jan 4, 2014 3:41 PM

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Jan 4, 2014 4:41 PM
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Isuzu should tell that noob Rudy that hitting defenseless trees wont give him any exp
Jan 4, 2014 4:46 PM
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this episode sold the show to me =)
Jan 4, 2014 4:54 PM

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I'm still waiting for when shit hit the fan lol
Jan 4, 2014 5:04 PM

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Losing your memories as penalty for dying is quite terrifying especially in their circumstances. Even if they abstain from fighting, the only fate that awaits them is a lifetime of boredom without any purpose.

Maybe they should keep diaries and share as much information about themselves to other people although I guess that would be pointless since what makes memories important is the feelings attached to them. Even if they knew that piece of memory, the significance would be lost on them.
Jan 4, 2014 5:42 PM
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Wow, that was a lot of new information to take in about the history of the game. Funny how Akatsuki stood around and didn't understand a thing when the history of the game was being explained xD

Losing memory as a consequence of death sounds very interesting.
I'm glad Minori spoke up at the end there, too.
Cannot wait for the next one :o
Jan 4, 2014 5:52 PM

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Wow! I'm impressed, I didn't expect that kind of writing in such a serie. If only the characters were a bit less childish, it could be an excellent show.

It's still good, and I don't regret strating it.
Jan 4, 2014 5:54 PM

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Mithestral said:


There is for me a difference between hiding it from the whole population and hiding it from the council ( or whatever name it has ), seems a risky move to me, shiroe might be blamed later for not sharing the info



He's gonna share the info later(RTC member) and the theory about memory loss will be proven correct bec. of that

Jan 4, 2014 6:03 PM
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beside for the assuming upcoming dungeon attempt by minori and the others, i think the next episode will not have a ton of actions. I believe the action will come after the next episode, but "who knows, who knows..."
Jan 4, 2014 7:08 PM
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that explanation, I feel like the Matrix film. which tell that our mind and body is not real. And the real us probably is in some container dreaming all this. :D
Jan 4, 2014 7:14 PM

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Well now I wonder, how many people in Susukino have complete amnesia now. No, not only in Susukino but everyone outside of Akiba. I wonder if someone else, maybe a knowledgeable person like Regan, have provided them with the same info.

And it just occured to me, what happens if there's no cathedral for the anima to revive in? And now I wonder if the cathedral can be bought. Okay that's scary O_O
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Jan 4, 2014 7:23 PM

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I really can't get enough of how deep they're making this world.
Jan 4, 2014 7:29 PM

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nice backstory about its world, i wonder whats the reason of using the the 3rd world fraction,. memory lose instead of dying in IRL makes more sense..

Jan 4, 2014 8:08 PM

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This is probably my 2nd favorite episode so far, with the round table conference(ep 9) being number one. The transfer of information from it just being a game into real life situations is just so fascinating.
Jan 4, 2014 8:24 PM
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u guys see what i see????
omgomgomgomg

ep 14

ep 11

ep 11

edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this
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Jan 4, 2014 8:37 PM

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That was a great ep
Using the basic component such as hp and mp as a twist
Getting better and better
Jan 4, 2014 8:49 PM

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Interesting, great world building.
A few points.
1. They went from playing on PC's to using some kind of full body immersion similar to SAO in a matter of 8 years.
2. It appears that the person behind this has the goal of making every human character eventually forget that they are in a game in the process of dying and reviving gradually losing memories of the real world.

It's strange that no one every mentions the real world other then briefly up to this point. No one is concerned about their physical bodies and why they can't just be disconnected from the game by someone outside. It was explained in SAO, not in this.
Jan 4, 2014 8:50 PM

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And this is why I regard Mamare Touno as one of the undisputed reigning champs when it comes to world building. Anyone who's in to this kind of stuff will find themselves addicted. But for those who don't care they'll find themselves bored silly. Thankfully I'm one of the former though I can be pretty flexible. And good job to those who've noticed that little quirk of Rudies status bar. You'll love him even more come the next eps. Wanna know why? I'll leave you w/ this: Kamina level epic...

Oh, and a minor correction to the above post. They didn't go from desktop to full body immersion tech in 8 years. They were still playing it on a desktop PC before the apocalypse happened. They just up and vanished in front of the monitor.
Jan 4, 2014 9:00 PM
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RediceRyan said:
Interesting, great world building.
A few points.
1. They went from playing on PC's to using some kind of full body immersion similar to SAO in a matter of 8 years.
2. It appears that the person behind this has the goal of making every human character eventually forget that they are in a game in the process of dying and reviving gradually losing memories of the real world.

It's strange that no one every mentions the real world other then briefly up to this point. No one is concerned about their physical bodies and why they can't just be disconnected from the game by someone outside. It was explained in SAO, not in this.

they still use PC. you should read Log Horizon manga first ep
its sure not spoiler since they didnt add in anime

thing that most people still confused, LH is not about stucking in game machine but they got sucked in game world instead. its very difference
and about the bodies, its gone. that's the whole point of the story. its more hopeless because you dont even know how you get in here so finding the way out is even more impossible for now. it left more mystery. not like SAO where you know exactly what happen and all you have to do is clear the game. LH is a lot deeper.

here link for manga
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/log_horizon/c001/6.html
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Jan 4, 2014 10:02 PM

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Aha, so here it is--the episode that brings to light the importance of death as it relates to the real world. Even with a revival system, death is still scary. What's even worse is that the people don't know what is happening to them.

This show keeps getting better and better. Hopefully it doesn't end in disappointment like Maoyu did.
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Jan 4, 2014 10:07 PM

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RediceRyan said:
Interesting, great world building.
A few points.
1. They went from playing on PC's to using some kind of full body immersion similar to SAO in a matter of 8 years.
2. It appears that the person behind this has the goal of making every human character eventually forget that they are in a game in the process of dying and reviving gradually losing memories of the real world.

It's strange that no one every mentions the real world other then briefly up to this point. No one is concerned about their physical bodies and why they can't just be disconnected from the game by someone outside. It was explained in SAO, not in this.

Interesting. Especially point number two. So whatever force within the game is trying to use the world fraction spell to integrate adventurers into the game to deal with the Curse of the Alvs.
Jan 4, 2014 11:38 PM

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Totally awestruck by how much better Log Horizon keeps on getting.

The level of backstory and strategy is simply amazing for the little things most anime don't pay attention to. I hope it stays awesome until the end <3

I'm glad there's a consequence to the "immortality" that the adventurers had. Much more interesting than SAO's setup (which did little to emphasis the psychological pressure of fatality compared to an anime like AoT), and seemingly just as dangerous.

Can't wait for the next episode. I'm going to have trouble concentrating on my studies in anticipation ;P
These faces are so cute that I might just leave them here (#`Д´)´∀`)・ω・) ゚Д゚)゚∀゚)・∀・) ̄ー ̄)´_ゝ`)
Jan 4, 2014 11:58 PM

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Dat story telling...

My mind goes Error 404

Deym hahahah.
Jan 5, 2014 1:20 AM

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Welp, I managed to watch all currently aired 14 episodes of Log Horizon in one go because this anime was so good, way better than a certain other virtual reality mmorpg anime....

I really loved the explanation of psyche (=mind) and anima (=body) and that Spiritual Theory. NPCs that aren't really NPCs and a game with an actual history and a progressive timeline, guilds, dungeons, non-menu cooking and crafting skills, the sense of adventure, and that shocking reveal about dying! I just really love how deep this show gets.
Go ***k yourself.

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Jan 5, 2014 1:49 AM
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http://i5.minus.com/ib0IOeSAKwJEpA.jpg


WELP

NOPE NOPE

RUDY PLS

don't die, seriously ;_;

please don't let the opening come true
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EmeralDragon23 said:
http://i5.minus.com/ib0IOeSAKwJEpA.jpg


WELP

NOPE NOPE

RUDY PLS

don't die, seriously ;_;

please don't let the opening come true

but those landers are [name/People of the land] while Rudy is [name/Sorcerer]
that's strange
Jan 5, 2014 2:19 AM

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I love the game's backstory but man.... when it comes to those little kids doing dungeons and stuff. it gets really boring.
Jan 5, 2014 2:27 AM
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Whoa, too deep, so even though the player gets revived at the cathedral, he gets to loose his memories in the end, and 4 eyes wants to keep it a secret. But it looks like miko girl seems to to be figuring something.
Jan 5, 2014 3:24 AM
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this is more interesting when i realize that the whole things Regan about said about those world fraction is not in game lore. Shiroe seem to know everything in game even a name of npc on quest items but he doesn't know about world fraction. hmmmm
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dobinz said:
EmeralDragon23 said:
http://i5.minus.com/ib0IOeSAKwJEpA.jpg


WELP

NOPE NOPE

RUDY PLS

don't die, seriously ;_;

please don't let the opening come true

but those landers are [name/People of the land] while Rudy is [name/Sorcerer]
that's strange



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Jan 5, 2014 4:08 AM

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dobinz said:
u guys see what i see????
omgomgomgomg

ep 14

ep 11

ep 11

edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this


OMG he's turning into a NPC...
Jan 5, 2014 4:17 AM

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Anon1409 said:
Airsyk said:
I think I'd prefer actually dying to losing my memories/who I am.

Losing your memories is practically same as dying

^ Agreed
Jan 5, 2014 5:14 AM
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ju2c0c0 said:
dobinz said:
u guys see what i see????
omgomgomgomg

ep 14

ep 11

ep 11

edit : lol fuck this bb code. im really bad at this


OMG he's turning into a NPC...

I believe "turning into" is the wrong phrase here, as it indicates that the final state is not the one that already existed.
Jan 5, 2014 5:20 AM

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This anime is way more complicated than SAO. I love it!
Jan 5, 2014 6:17 AM
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Well,that was unexpectedly deep for MMO anime...this episode 5* for me.
But I kind of wanted to see the princess again...well,whatever.
Jan 5, 2014 6:39 AM
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i dont know why. the longer i look at it the faster it gets

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Jan 5, 2014 7:25 AM

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this world-building....i can't

This anime really is interesting.
Jan 5, 2014 7:31 AM
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I wonder if Shiroe would want to be a top class mage?
Jan 5, 2014 7:46 AM

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I love it how they explain nearly everything. Grate episode.
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Jan 5, 2014 7:57 AM
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I'd rather die than lose my own memories and become an NPC-Like player.... no infos, no knowledge and no feelings. LOL
Jan 5, 2014 8:16 AM
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I believe it's all death. not just death and revive at the citadel, but as death then res by the player too. I could be wrong =p
Jan 5, 2014 8:27 AM

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OMG this plot really surprised me. I didn't expect to see a deep story like this one. Can't wait for the next episode!
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