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Aug 23, 2008 5:18 AM
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Guess we'll always have something supernatural in these episodes. This ep was okay, nothing too spectacular.

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Aug 23, 2008 1:18 PM
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Kind of an odd episode, but an improvement from episode 6. I actually liked the idea of a parasitic tree a lot and was glad the episode didn't go the typical "nature good, humans bad" route I expected. I did think the episode could've used a bit more time however, as it seemed somewhat rushed and didn't get to expand on the plot outside of the basics. I also thought the beginning of the episode was hilarious. The whole "eff you physics" thing with driving the van over the tops of those other vehicles, only for physics to fight back by leaving them on their side rather than in hot pursuit seemed like the series was poking fun at itself or just anime physics in general.
Aug 23, 2008 2:01 PM
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I agree, definitely an improvement from episode 6, but a bit rushed as well. It didn't seem... thorough, I guess, would be the word.

Of course, it's horribly implausible. Parasitic plants isn't a far reach, but controlling human minds with it is :P I think my favorite so far was the terrorist machine that went awry. That's something that I could definitely see happening, and is kind of scary to think about...
Aug 23, 2008 2:45 PM
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What was great about this episode was its unique atmosphere and the fantastic soundtrack for me. It really made it shine. Moreover, it was very well directed, maybe better than usual, so even if it seemed rushed (13 episode is definitely too short for this series, almost all the arcs could have been doubled), it was one of the very best episodes in my opinion. Oh and the script is still on ots way.

I have hogh expectations for next ep too seeing the preview !

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Aug 23, 2008 5:36 PM
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Absolutely_Steve said:
... the episode didn't go the typical "nature good, humans bad" route I expected. I did think the episode could've used a bit more time however, as it seemed somewhat rushed and didn't get to expand on the plot outside of the basics. I also thought the beginning of the episode was hilarious. The whole "eff you physics" thing with driving the van over the tops of those other vehicles, only for physics to fight back by leaving them on their side rather than in hot pursuit seemed like the series was poking fun at itself or just anime physics in general.


The whole series has a sort of "eff you physics" feel, but this episode "hung a lampshade on it" - i.e., they called attention to it. The fact that the van fell over after escaping the boat was the funny part.

Less funny was the way that Ryoko's gun didn't move its slide in order to chamber new cartridges, and the way three napalm shells were sufficient at the end. Now I see why the lethal combat specialists are called "maids" -- they "clean up" inconvenient monsters, corpses, etc.

The conflict between locals and rich outsiders is a classic theme, and the horror-theme of locals with a local religion/cult is a classic horror story theme. Here the local religion seemed ambiguous to me -- the evil mutant trees may have been a corruption introduced by outsiders. The ending moral is the classic sci-fi theme, "The new development spiraled out of control, we meddled in God's domain."
Aug 23, 2008 5:38 PM
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Jacut said:
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I have hogh expectations for next ep too seeing the preview !


In the preview she seemed to be using an archaic, poetic style, talking about "falling leaves."

It looks like Ryoko's sister is going to be a real "ideal Japanese woman" character -- she apparently knows the tea ceremony. I wonder if they're going to call her a "Yamato Nadeisco" or if she's just going to talk in terms of medieval poetry through the whole episode. That would be hilarious-- the traditional Japanese aristocratic femme fatale versus the Westernized, mini-dress-and-high-heels younger sister.
Aug 23, 2008 6:34 PM
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formosan said:
Absolutely_Steve said:
... the episode didn't go the typical "nature good, humans bad" route I expected. I did think the episode could've used a bit more time however, as it seemed somewhat rushed and didn't get to expand on the plot outside of the basics. I also thought the beginning of the episode was hilarious. The whole "eff you physics" thing with driving the van over the tops of those other vehicles, only for physics to fight back by leaving them on their side rather than in hot pursuit seemed like the series was poking fun at itself or just anime physics in general.


The whole series has a sort of "eff you physics" feel, but this episode "hung a lampshade on it" - i.e., they called attention to it. The fact that the van fell over after escaping the boat was the funny part.

Less funny was the way that Ryoko's gun didn't move its slide in order to chamber new cartridges, and the way three napalm shells were sufficient at the end. Now I see why the lethal combat specialists are called "maids" -- they "clean up" inconvenient monsters, corpses, etc.

The conflict between locals and rich outsiders is a classic theme, and the horror-theme of locals with a local religion/cult is a classic horror story theme. Here the local religion seemed ambiguous to me -- the evil mutant trees may have been a corruption introduced by outsiders. The ending moral is the classic sci-fi theme, "The new development spiraled out of control, we meddled in God's domain."


At first I thought it was going to go more along the path I said due to the environmentalists protesting near the beginning, but then it went the way you've already expounded upon. Still an overused theme, but at least marginally better.

As for the "eff you physics" thing I agree with you that the whole series has that sort of feel. Then again so many things do (anime, films, video games) that I don't even notice stuff like Ryoko's gun. Plus whatever animation studio is doing this hasn't exactly been the greatest when it comes to details.
Aug 24, 2008 12:16 AM
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I swear some people complain too much about physics this and weapons that. I've fired various firearms and I've taken advanced physics, both weren't that entertaining. I would guess that 99% of anime could be ripped apart by even the basic school kiddie in regards to missed elements. Anime, although lacking in some respects of certain minor details, is entertaining. Why bother being a crusader for reality?

As for the episode, I enjoyed it. A strange change from the robotics and science experiments with this new mystical approach, but at least they are keeping it fresh with new angles. I should have guessed they would have thrown in some mystical elements after the episode with the photographers.
Aug 24, 2008 8:19 AM
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very little meido scenes D: it was an alright episode, Ryoko in bikini <3
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I like a lot of the little moments and side conversations in this episode (just as I did in ep 6). The moment before they run out of the building, where Izumida grabs her hand, and she looks at him. Ryoko's line about doing the saving AFTER the begging :) I loved the duct tape holding the van together, and the rear-view mirror that looked like it was going to fall off. That whole bit with the van made me think of Lupin.

I like how whenever it's time to investigate, Ryoko gets into her slinky black outfit, while Izumida is always stuck in a suit. Even on "vacation" he has a casual suit. I mean, the point of her wearing the tight black outfit was canceled out by his brilliant white suit, lol :)

Still a great show :D
Aug 26, 2008 11:16 AM

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Nice episode, nothing outstanding but it had a nice feeling atached to it. The beginning cracked me up xD
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the only thing that annoys me in this EP is the Idea of the stone who stop monster or whatever... its been about science and all but suddenly some superpower and stuff? its just weird...
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cyruz said:
This ep was okay, nothing too spectacular.


Agreed. And why was there stuff actually related to "magic" all of a sudden (i.e. the little magical stone)? This series seemed more grounded in science and logic before...

LensFlaredAway said:

A strange change from the robotics and science experiments with this new mystical approach, but at least they are keeping it fresh with new angles. I should have guessed they would have thrown in some mystical elements after the episode with the photographers.


But that is a very good way at looking at it. Perhaps I should be glad that the series takes on a variety of angles and themes rather than nailing itself down to one~
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merle_noir said:
cyruz said:
This ep was okay, nothing too spectacular.


Agreed. And why was there stuff actually related to "magic" all of a sudden (i.e. the little magical stone)? This series seemed more grounded in science and logic before...
But that is a very good way at looking at it. Perhaps I should be glad that the series takes on a variety of angles and themes rather than nailing itself down to one~


Agreed, the first episode disproved paranormal activity relatively quickly- it seems weird that the last few episodes have done a complete u-turn.
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This episode kinda bored me.
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the only thing that annoys me in this EP is the Idea of the stone who stop monster or whatever... its been about science and all but suddenly some superpower and stuff? its just weird...

Yeah it didn't seem appropriate to use the uh power stone to stop the genetically modified mangrove.
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