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Oct 15, 2012 11:10 PM

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PervisumChaos said:

Your posts are actually very disrespectful towards the mangaka's work as you're trying to label the scenes as "unimportant" when you clearly don't understand what I am complaining about.

Have you considered the chance that the mangaka may also agree that the scenes as "unimportant" relative to what will get animated in the rest of the series?

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skipping a whole chapter and then proceeding to force chapters 2-5 (in total, a little less than ~100 pages because of credits) into a single episode is everything but good directing. It seemed very out of place and unnatural as a manga reader, although I'm sure if I hadn't read the manga, it would've seemed "normal".

I can see why certain scenes are deemed too important to ignore when it is adapted, but I also wonder if it is done for a reason - meaning they decide that given the restricted length of the anime if they animate more of the early chapters, they have to sacrifice some of the later story, and yet they have to provide a climax and resolution when the series ends. Is it because of that they choose to rush the early chapters? If so, then it may not be bad directing after all.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 16, 2012 12:09 AM
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symbv said:
PervisumChaos said:

Your posts are actually very disrespectful towards the mangaka's work as you're trying to label the scenes as "unimportant" when you clearly don't understand what I am complaining about.

Have you considered the chance that the mangaka may also agree that the scenes as "unimportant" relative to what will get animated in the rest of the series?

PervisumChaos said:
skipping a whole chapter and then proceeding to force chapters 2-5 (in total, a little less than ~100 pages because of credits) into a single episode is everything but good directing. It seemed very out of place and unnatural as a manga reader, although I'm sure if I hadn't read the manga, it would've seemed "normal".

I can see why certain scenes are deemed too important to ignore when it is adapted, but I also wonder if it is done for a reason - meaning they decide that given the restricted length of the anime if they animate more of the early chapters, they have to sacrifice some of the later story, and yet they have to provide a climax and resolution when the series ends. Is it because of that they choose to rush the early chapters? If so, then it may not be bad directing after all.


If the other did agree with all these story changes and unimportance, I wouldn't mind as much, however I find that unlikely - especially when an author would be happy with an anime pretty much for getting an adaptation and hence would be unlikely for them to complain, even if they dislike something.

I do understand that the Director is trying to rush the earlier arcs to get to the "great arcs" (though I found Magi pretty consistent the entire time, tbh), but I'd very much prefer him to smush the chapters together, but stay true to the original material instead of smush 4 chapters together, obtain the "key events" and then smush them into illogical orders and slow down the pacing to make it seem natural.
Oct 16, 2012 12:20 AM

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PervisumChaos said:

I do understand that the Director is trying to rush the earlier arcs to get to the "great arcs" (though I found Magi pretty consistent the entire time, tbh), but I'd very much prefer him to smush the chapters together, but stay true to the original material instead of smush 4 chapters together, obtain the "key events" and then smush them into illogical orders and slow down the pacing to make it seem natural.

Just want to say that I read the Japanese forums as well and there the fans of the original manga are vocal about the changes in the adaptation as well, so I can see the view regarding the changes is broadly shared. On the other hand, I wonder if there is a feeling that because there may not be another season, they just want to introduce most of the characters in this season if possible which means the early chapters get sacrificed, and despite the issues you mentioned at least the change managed to "make it seem natural" so that it can still be enjoyed by those who have not read the manga.
So MAL finally starts locking news threads that are only a few weeks old?

I wonder where was the announcement of this change? Or we are seeing yet another case of changes made that impacted users but not communicated to them?

I wonder how long people would put up with this.

As much as I have a bunch of information to share about anime announced recently I cannot share it in news board, and the anime series is too disorganized and chaotic to share information except with people already interested in the particular series.
Oct 16, 2012 12:30 AM
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PervisumChaos
You gave the Magi manga a score of 4, what are you even complaining about the anime version for?

You have a hefty amount of manga scores in the 8-5 range so if I go by that, a score of 4 looks like it's in the dislike territory (in my point of view) and here you want the anime to follow the manga more closely. lol?


Num1dad_Asura said:
No that part was in the manga, its during the beginning of chapter 8.

Thanks.
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Oct 16, 2012 2:43 AM
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ahneeme said:
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You gave the Magi manga a score of 4, what are you even complaining about the anime version for?--


Wow, thanks for telling me. I haven't updated nor checked my rankings in a very, very long time. At the time of me rating Magi the manga, I was adamant about child protagonists, which after reading Magi, actually changed my mind. I updated my rating for Magi, it's easily one of my favourite mangas at the moment.

And yes, I do. The only complaint I have at the anime is towards the director, I don't understand why certain people aren't happy with a persons opinion unless it's perfect towards the anime. I think it's a good adaptation thanks to the animation and sound, but really at the directing... I detest it and have gave my reasons why. It woudln't be too hard to deduce that the rating I gave it was wrong as I updated my lists frequently - not my ratings.

Also my ratings are often serious, unlike people who say something is bad then give it a 7, lol.

symbv said:
Just want to say that I read the Japanese forums as well and there the fans of the original manga are vocal about the changes in the adaptation as well, so I can see the view regarding the changes is broadly shared. On the other hand, I wonder if there is a feeling that because there may not be another season, they just want to introduce most of the characters in this season if possible which means the early chapters get sacrificed, and despite the issues you mentioned at least the change managed to "make it seem natural" so that it can still be enjoyed by those who have not read the manga.


Very interesting, thanks for the heads up. I do agree it seemed natural in the anime. It's because I read the manga that every time I see a change (which is about every minute, lmao), it becomes a critical thing. I do understand any points people are making and am not against them, only voicing my concerns on the directing since I love the rest.
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PervisumChaos said:
ahneeme said:
PervisumChaos
You gave the Magi manga a score of 4, what are you even complaining about the anime version for?--


Wow, thanks for telling me. I haven't updated nor checked my rankings in a very, very long time. At the time of me rating Magi the manga, I was adamant about child protagonists, which after reading Magi, actually changed my mind. I updated my rating for Magi, it's easily one of my favourite mangas at the moment.


Lol I found it weird how you were defending a manga you didn't even like.

Magi is definitely my favorite at the moment too and I don't like the changes as much as you but I felt the changes in this episode were not that outrageous. And I definitely liked the dungeon change
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Oct 16, 2012 6:52 AM
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Sheesh, people, this is supposed to be an anime only discussion. Differences with the manga are irrelevant.

Anyway, it was a nice intro to the dungeon. Hope there's still more to it, it didn't feel to dangerous to me (rhetorical question manga readers).

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Oct 16, 2012 7:36 AM

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I haven't read the manga, but this series so far has been pretty interesting. It should get even better later on.
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Num1dad_Asura said:
PervisumChaos said:
ahneeme said:
PervisumChaos
You gave the Magi manga a score of 4, what are you even complaining about the anime version for?--


Wow, thanks for telling me. I haven't updated nor checked my rankings in a very, very long time. At the time of me rating Magi the manga, I was adamant about child protagonists, which after reading Magi, actually changed my mind. I updated my rating for Magi, it's easily one of my favourite mangas at the moment.


Lol I found it weird how you were defending a manga you didn't even like.

Magi is definitely my favorite at the moment too and I don't like the changes as much as you but I felt the changes in this episode were not that outrageous. And I definitely liked the dungeon change


No problem, I can completely understand if people like it. I mean, overall I really did like the episode - and find Magi a great series.
Oct 16, 2012 10:10 AM

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Too much shounen shitz.... Still good.....

3/5
Oct 16, 2012 2:27 PM

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Amazing episode, even better than the first one. As a RPG player, I like dungeons and it was a nice and funny exploration. The sharif is generic, but I can already hate him.
5/5
Oct 16, 2012 3:00 PM

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What a cruel man... but anyway, cant wait for the red haired girl to join Aladdin and Ali Baba :)
Oct 17, 2012 12:08 PM

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That guy is an asshole.
This felt sort of rushed, a whole dungeon in just 1 episode? That tower looked huge from the outside but from the inside it appears to be really small. It might be rushed but it didn't feel that way.
The girl had a very happy moment and I want them to rescue her already.
Next episode should be even better!
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Oct 17, 2012 12:42 PM
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TAKE THE GIRL WITH YOU!!! Come on, guys.
Oct 17, 2012 2:21 PM
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MasterMeNL said:
This felt sort of rushed, a whole dungeon in just 1 episode? That tower looked huge from the outside but from the inside it appears to be really small. It might be rushed but it didn't feel that way.
They're still inside of the dungeon.
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Oct 17, 2012 2:46 PM

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Really nice episode :)
Loving this show! This whole fantasy concept really entrances me, and I'm enjoying it too much for words:)

One of my favorites this season~ <3
Oct 18, 2012 8:04 AM

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I liked it but I gotta say,
rushed and quite different from the manga, wondering if this means the arc with Sinbad will start soon already
Oct 18, 2012 8:25 AM
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Lyfa said:
I liked it but I gotta say,
rushed and quite different from the manga, wondering if this means the arc with Sinbad will start soon already
Sinbad will probably appear in episode 5, probably in Morgiana's arc.
Oct 18, 2012 7:10 PM

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I liked this a lot :D
Oct 19, 2012 5:24 AM
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Yeah 9+ out of 10.

This series reminds me of Allibaba and 7 so my childhood+ some FMA implementation+ Slayers implementation, everything with great music, art and character development;3
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Oct 19, 2012 6:51 PM

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A japanese ranking of the fall 2012 anime viewers unceremoniously dumped

1. To Love-Ru Darkness

2. Oniichan Dakedo Ai Sae Areba Kankeinai Yo Ne!

3. Ebiten

4. K

5. Magi

6. JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure

7. Gintama

8. Little Busters!

9. Busou Shinki

10. Medaka Box

11. Chuunibyou Demo Koi ga Shitai

12. Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb

13. Sukitte II Na Yo

14. Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun

15. Hayate no Gotoku! CAN’T TAKE MY EYES OFF YOU

16. Oshiri Kajiri Mushi

17. Shinsekai Yori

18. Blast of Tempest

19. Sakura-sou no Pet na Kanojo

20. Psycho-Pass

21. “I’m still watching everything I started watching!”

22. Chou Soku Henkei Gyrozetter

23. Ixion Saga DT

24. Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal II

25. Lychee DE Light Club

the anime's directing starting to backfire
Oct 19, 2012 8:41 PM

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Love this chibipervert Aladin :3
Oct 19, 2012 11:05 PM
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Mephz said:
A japanese ranking of the fall 2012 anime viewers unceremoniously dumped

Is that list is saying that Lychee Light Club and Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal 2 are shows that they would least consider dropping out of everything airing?
Lol I can't these people seriously then.
Oct 20, 2012 12:14 PM

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From that list we can see how much they love anything moe.

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Oct 20, 2012 3:20 PM
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i really liked this episode, so can't wait for episode 3. I heard that magi is going to be a 24/25 episode series unless they are gonna do another season
Oct 21, 2012 4:32 PM

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Too rushed, i think... but nice episode anyways, i have not seen the manga so i'm a little confused, but the action was nice too

Oct 25, 2012 3:23 AM

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It seems she's from Africa or someplace like Africa. And she's suppose to have sturdy legs, my ass she can walk/run on walls too! XD

Curious on what Ali Baba's true story is, I can't wait for the future episodes.
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Nov 10, 2012 1:11 PM

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Really nice episode! Looks like great adventures are ahead...many things happened and I liked how most of it was.

Sharif sounds like Grimmjow, doesn't fit him at all...
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Jan 18, 2013 11:48 PM

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This episode feels rushed but it was a nice episode.
Feb 21, 2013 3:08 PM
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First I want to say the concept is awesome. I love it! But the cruelty of some like the Shiray? or whatever you call him is putting a strain on my heart.. this is not easygoing at all... yet it is very unique and unlike the animes we have nowadays.. >< I'm gna watch a bit more, I hope the cruelty will lessen.. if not I'll have to stop >> It's too much for my heart.. Red haired girl is soo cool! She's aw-esome! First time Alibaba shined :D haha only for a split second somewhere there.. so he was actually from a rich family, I wanna know what happened to him. and I also wanna know if anyone else can use magic~
Apr 17, 2013 7:11 PM

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loved the action and the first dungeon, aladdin is quite the character, like a cheeky little brother! the animation is gorgeous too, liking it even more now!
May 5, 2013 9:39 PM

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<haven't read the manga but man, I love anime like this! Just so fun to watch. Cant wait until the chick tags a long with them! *o*
May 19, 2013 9:19 AM

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Quite some nice development going on, I wonder what they'll find next inside that door!
Jun 26, 2013 9:47 PM

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Another interesting episode, really enjoyed it.
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Jul 18, 2013 9:13 PM
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That ED is so damn good. Loved the episode! Hope to see Morgiana freed soon.
Sep 13, 2013 5:33 PM

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This episode was pretty bad too. It's too childish for my taste. 1/10, dropped.
Oct 28, 2013 6:12 PM

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Personally, I loved it. Very different from the average shounen series. So far Alibaba is my favorite character, and boob boy is adorable; he really loves to cop-a-feel, even man boobs. Yuck!!!
Dec 8, 2013 4:23 PM

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lmao at dem faces...

does anyone else get a boner whenever morgiana comes on screen? (no pedo)


brb
Feb 3, 2014 1:40 AM

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that slave master stabbing his servent makes my stomach churn
Feb 7, 2014 9:16 PM

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Sharif? (sp?) is one crazy dude. I was thinking that the same time Alibaba was.
Good episode! really liking this anime so far, dont think Im going to drop it or anything it seems really interesting.

May 23, 2014 4:35 AM

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It just wouldn't be the same if they Ali Baba didn't say "open sesame!"
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness."

"May those who defy their fate be granted glory."
Aug 15, 2014 1:42 AM
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The blond-haired, yellow-eyed guy and his young obviously-voiced-by-a-woman companion are going into a "door of truth". This kind of reminds me of something hmm... I hope they don't accidentally end up in Nazi Germany or have limbs/body parts mysteriously stolen/torn off when they go through...
Oct 17, 2014 1:39 PM

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So what I don't get, is what happened to his flute? The lord dude has it right? Anyways, I wonder what the deal with the northern tribe guy is, he seems op considering he can't die.
Nov 2, 2014 9:30 AM

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You're smart Ali Babá...
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Dec 19, 2014 8:07 AM

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This series looks really good, looking forward to seeing all of it.
Hope that Sharif gets a good beat.
Hope Morgiana joins Aladdin's group soon >.< .
Dem faces are hilarious.
Ending was nice too .
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Note that the english dub of the anime butchered the pronunciation of magi.
It should be pronounced as Mey-Jahy. Not mah-ghee. They pronounce ruhk perfectly however. Strange.
Feb 7, 2015 2:55 PM

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Wow this episode was even better than the first. Awesome Villain in my opinion, stabbing that slave geee what a hate able guy. Also loving the OP and ending themes!
Apr 22, 2015 10:25 PM

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Mmmmm Morgiana's got nice legs...

Good episode. This anime is taking a little longer to get into than usual but I'm starting to like it now.

7.5/10

Dec 1, 2015 6:40 AM

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So yeah the Lord is a dick...no shock there. Hopefully they kick his ass next episode.
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