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Oct 11, 2010 11:58 AM
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Is it me or is the only reason this is scored low is because it wasn't made by a jap?
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Oct 11, 2010 7:27 PM
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It was. Madhouse is a Japanese studio.
Oct 12, 2010 10:22 AM
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Ryhzuo said:
It was. Madhouse is a Japanese studio.

I mean that it was based off something that wasn't made by a jap.
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No. It scored so low because it really isn't that great. For one, animu Tony Stark doesn't seem at all like his America-made counterpart. Also its a snorefest.
Oct 12, 2010 4:38 PM
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I would say it's the opposite. The Japanese version just isn't as good as the American ones.
Oct 12, 2010 4:55 PM
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Underrated series is underrated.



Oct 16, 2010 10:46 PM
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brecho said:
DeviantKaos said:
Underrated series is underrated.



the same goes for overrated.

They created a hype by releasing an awesome trailer but the anime turned out to be simply bad even in comparison with relatively bad Iron Man 2.
Tony Stark is nothing like he should be. They say that Tony should learn how the Japanese mind works but on the end of first episode instead of saying something purely his style like "fuck. they took the suit" he says something Japanese-like. That's not the Tony I expected.


That's mainly because...you have no idea how Tony Stark acts. Having read the comics for years...this IS Tony Stark.
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Oct 17, 2010 2:26 AM
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Contrary to popular belief. This is actually ranked low because well... it sucks. I don't really feel like going through the reasons, read my review.

SageShinigami said:

That's mainly because...you have no idea how Tony Stark acts. Having read the comics for years...this IS Tony Stark.


Fair point, but his characterization is still terrible. I blame the terrible choice of Seiyuu.
Oct 18, 2010 4:57 AM
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Ryhzuo said:
Contrary to popular belief. This is actually ranked low because well... it sucks. I don't really feel like going through the reasons, read my review.

SageShinigami said:

That's mainly because...you have no idea how Tony Stark acts. Having read the comics for years...this IS Tony Stark.


Fair point, but his characterization is still terrible. I blame the terrible choice of Seiyuu.


Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.
And well, I like his version of Stark a lot, even if there wasn't that much action to prove himself =P
Oct 18, 2010 6:53 AM

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The CG is killing it for me.
Oct 18, 2010 7:05 AM
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Meh, I've only watched the first episode and even though I don't hate it, I can see why others would.
Oct 18, 2010 10:08 AM

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the art is better on thsi then the amarican one from the other year, (iron man iron adventure) but over all im not sure what one is beet
Oct 18, 2010 7:48 PM

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DarkChaplain said:

Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.


Agree to disagree then.
Oct 30, 2010 3:21 PM

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Ryhzuo said:
DarkChaplain said:

Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.


Agree to disagree then.

What the hell is a seiyuu?
Oct 30, 2010 4:38 PM

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supersonic124 said:
Ryhzuo said:
DarkChaplain said:

Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.


Agree to disagree then.

What the hell is a seiyuu?


The voice actor.
Oct 30, 2010 4:41 PM
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^voice actor. dont know why people need to use Japanese words for no reason
Oct 30, 2010 5:28 PM
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I actually like how this series is shaping up
Oct 30, 2010 10:19 PM

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Kipcha said:
supersonic124 said:
Ryhzuo said:
DarkChaplain said:

Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.


Agree to disagree then.

What the hell is a seiyuu?


The voice actor.


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............Why not just call them voice actors then?
Oct 31, 2010 12:51 PM

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I don't know about you guys, but I enjoyed the hell out of this show.

I wasn't even a fan of Iron Man, or cared about it until the first movie came out. It was so done well that Iron Man is now on the list of my favorite superheroes.

Granted, I don't know what kind of character Tony Stark was originally so I'm basing him from the first Iron Man movie. The anime character doesn't portray Downey's smart-assness, clever with the words, but Tony Stark is still recognized as the Merchant of Death, someone who still have bad reputation from his business and is now trying to make up for it.

Oh, after watching Iron Man 2 the movie, I don't know what to say about it. Still an awesome action flick, but it kind of ruined Stark's image. The anime is awesome though.

Kind of surprised about the low score. I know Iron Man anime isn't THAT spectacular, but it getting 7 average while a trashy show like Panty & Stocking getting a lot of 7-10 scores convinced me majority of MAL people have terrible taste.
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i think it got a lower score because when ppl saw the first trailer they were really hyped, but after the second trailer came out, and then went from 2d to 3d on the armor, I think that's when ppl started to get pissed.

my, I don't mind it at all. Great series. I'm loving it so far.
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supersonic124 said:
............Why not just call them voice actors then?


It's cool broheim, not like your on an anime-based website or anything.
Nov 1, 2010 10:25 AM

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Mitsukai- said:
supersonic124 said:
............Why not just call them voice actors then?


It's cool broheim, not like your on an anime-based website or anything.

Why not call the english voice actors seyyu then? Aren't they the same thing?
Nov 3, 2010 10:07 PM

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chibuki said:
Kind of surprised about the low score. I know Iron Man anime isn't THAT spectacular, but it getting 7 average while a trashy show like Panty & Stocking getting a lot of 7-10 scores convinced me majority of MAL people have terrible taste.


I really don't find Iron Man to be as bad as people here are voting, but... Panty & Stocking a trashy show? lol, poor taste indeed.
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supersonic124 said:
Mitsukai- said:
supersonic124 said:
............Why not just call them voice actors then?


It's cool broheim, not like your on an anime-based website or anything.

Why not call the english voice actors seyyu then? Aren't they the same thing?


LMAO Indeed ,I even see around people using honorifics and the such..It's a different thing when your touring and want to be courteous.But this isa .com site not a .jp site ;)
Nov 14, 2010 1:53 PM

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I think it's ok but it's definitely not good enough for me to give it an 8 or 9.
Nov 16, 2010 12:33 AM

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While im sure there are some idiots out there who dislike it because its based off of a western comic, i think the reason why the majority of people dislike it is BECAUSE IT FUCKING SUCKS.
Nov 16, 2010 7:09 AM

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Let me guess, the majority that's saying "IT FUCKING SUCKS" are the same people that like stuff like Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece.
Nov 16, 2010 8:00 AM
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Let me guess, the majority that's saying "IT FUCKING SUCKS" are the same people that like stuff like Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece.


ROFL *thumbs up*

Anyway.....what's the problem guys...americans have the right to turn good japanese stuff into crap and japanese people don't have that right on american stuff? And who the hell says it's crap O_O i saw original iron man...[american one] I saw some comics...I saw movies...tell me what's wrong with this anime? It's not like the majority of the american cartoon episodes weren't stand-alone ones , and this anime sure has better art than the american one...so what's the real logical reason to say it's crap?
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Nakago said:
Let me guess, the majority that's saying "IT FUCKING SUCKS" are the same people that like stuff like Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece.
Probably not because this is just as bad, if not worse than any of those.

The art is nothing special, the cgi is shit, the story stinks, the characters are annoying. It's just bad. It's not even bad on the "so bad its good" factor. Its just bad.
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chibuki said:
Kind of surprised about the low score. I know Iron Man anime isn't THAT spectacular, but it getting 7 average while a trashy show like Panty & Stocking getting a lot of 7-10 scores convinced me majority of MAL people have terrible taste.


Actually, I've noticed a few shows like that get better scores then I personally think that they deserve. And plenty have people nit picking some of the strangest things. As for this, I think the trailor played a part of the problem. But I also think a LOT of the backlash is coming from people who don't think you should mix Western and Eastern to come up with something new.

There are people who seriously nitpick things like Aang (Avatar: The Last Airbender) is played by an caucasian boy, (when he is actually mixed race, obviously so, and that was why he was picked). Yet the rabbid fans of Twilight can't pick apart their series worth beans. There needs to be a balance between the two.

That being said, I am watching the first few minutes. The Japanese voice actor irks me. I think, it has to do with the fact that I would have liked to have had it sounded like Tony was American, speaking Japanese here though, not like he was Japanese being able to speak Japanese. The voice sounds right for Tony though. And boy, is he IC. I have to also say, not very action packed.

I am going to ask my brother though, to take a look at this, despite it being in Japanese. Even if I have to wait for the dub. His opinion... that is something to go by. He can possibly tell me what people are so uptight about.
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I honestly can't think of anything positive about this show. There is literally nothing that stands out that makes me say "that's good".

Despite being "trashy" Panty and Stocking is actually entertaining each week..which is something I can't say about Iron Man.
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Nakago said:
Let me guess, the majority that's saying "IT FUCKING SUCKS" are the same people that like stuff like Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece.
Probably not because this is just as bad, if not worse than any of those.

The art is nothing special, the cgi is shit, the story stinks, the characters are annoying. It's just bad. It's not even bad on the "so bad its good" factor. Its just bad.

At least you don't fall under that category of being a fan of those shows. Still, from what I've seen as of late, most haters happen to be hardcore fans of those shows.
Considering how anime has been lately, this show is a breath of fresh air.
There is no real reason to hate it. Sadly, people just like to nitpick for the minor things and use it as a reason to hate on something.
If you hate this show, why are you still watching it?
Just drop it and move on to something you think you might like.
Nov 18, 2010 10:23 AM

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I honestly can't think of anything positive about this show. There is literally nothing that stands out that makes me say "that's good".

Despite being "trashy" Panty and Stocking is actually entertaining each week..which is something I can't say about Iron Man.

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.
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supersonic124 said:
McRib said:
I honestly can't think of anything positive about this show. There is literally nothing that stands out that makes me say "that's good".

Despite being "trashy" Panty and Stocking is actually entertaining each week..which is something I can't say about Iron Man.

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.


Iron Man shouldn't be anyones type of show.
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supersonic124 said:

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.

Obviously something too deep and complex for you. Just like LoGH

PS: Is this you?
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supersonic124 said:
McRib said:
I honestly can't think of anything positive about this show. There is literally nothing that stands out that makes me say "that's good".

Despite being "trashy" Panty and Stocking is actually entertaining each week..which is something I can't say about Iron Man.

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.


Obviously, you are not up to date on currently airing series because this is probably the most talked about one right now. I don't care for it but it is extremely popular.
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Kipcha said:
supersonic124 said:
McRib said:
I honestly can't think of anything positive about this show. There is literally nothing that stands out that makes me say "that's good".

Despite being "trashy" Panty and Stocking is actually entertaining each week..which is something I can't say about Iron Man.

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.


Obviously, you are not up to date on currently airing series because this is probably the most talked about one right now. I don't care for it but it is extremely popular.


I had to refresh my memory of it, only to remember as soon as I went to watch it, why I hadn't planned on picking it up. I was drawn in by the experimental animation, but completly turned off by the level of trashyness in it.

I talked to my brother and showed him the first episode. He noted some changes from canon, but he felt it was a revamp and a relaunch of the series, almost like all those Marvel AUs out there too. He was pleased. Not to mention, I was highly reminded by the time I finished the first episode of the old cartoon in some ways.
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supersonic124 said:
Kipcha said:
supersonic124 said:
Ryhzuo said:
DarkChaplain said:

Pardon me, but the seiyuu is brilliant.


Agree to disagree then.

What the hell is a seiyuu?


The voice actor.


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............Why not just call them voice actors then?


The same reason why you don't call these shows cartoons.

I think I'm going to change my user name back to seiyuu now, brb.
Nov 18, 2010 10:47 PM
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@seiyuu - Rather true. I call them voice actors in forums though because I don't want to butcher the spelling. :D
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McRib said:
supersonic124 said:

What the fuck is Panty & Stocking? Obviously Iron Man isn't your type of show if you like a show with a name like "Panty and Stockings". GTFO my thread we're talking about serious business stuff here not some gay japtoon bullshit.

Obviously something too deep and complex for you. Just like LoGH

PS: Is this you?

LMAO LoGH is not deep, it's just Japan's piss poor attempt at copying Star Trek/Star Wars.

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The same reason why you don't call these shows cartoons.

I think I'm going to change my user name back to seiyuu now, brb.

Your logic is flawed. Anime/Cartoons are completely different things. But with voice acting, the japs/dub actors are doing the SAME EXACT THING. Therefore seiyuu= voice actors. It's not debatable.
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supersonic124 said:

LMAO LoGH is not deep, it's just Japan's piss poor attempt at copying Star Trek/Star Wars.

Quite a bold opinion you got there after watching one whole episode of it.

My views are now changed, thanks.
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This thread is bad and you should feel bad.

Promising trailer, disappointing premier and the silly story isn't helping either.
Nov 21, 2010 6:25 AM

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I think the ones that are bad mouthing the show were mostly:

a) expecting something in the lines of that trailer, in which there is nothing more than a DBZ-like fight between Iron Man and a Harlock wannabe;

b) something exactly like the movies.

Instead, they got something closer to the actual comics, which most of the animu fans don't like.

Iron Man isn't about Tony flying around throwing energy balls at enemies. It's about politics, industrial espionage, cyber warfare... And Tony is shown as he truly is. Not as a japanese shounen hero and not as the goofy Tony from the movies. He is a bit more idealistic than the original Tony, though.

In fact, it reminds me a little of the GITS TV series. GITS is far better IMO, but it has the same feeling.

All that being said, I'm a little disappointed. They need to kick it up a notch.
Nov 21, 2010 6:59 AM

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Well i just started watching the anime, and yeah, i could say i enjoyed it more than the actuall show, this is more exciting.
But about Tony being different..im not sure what he was like in the oroginall show, but i did expect more american slang and the use of the word ''fuck'', lame, but it would be more fun that way, im just a teenager, no matter how much id try to denie it, things like that entertaine me.
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Iron Man isn't about Tony flying around throwing energy balls at enemies. It's about politics, industrial espionage, cyber warfare... And Tony is shown as he truly is. Not as a japanese shounen hero and not as the goofy Tony from the movies. He is a bit more idealistic than the original Tony, though.


And that is what I always loved about Iron Man series, but then, that might just be me.

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Well i just started watching the anime, and yeah, i could say i enjoyed it more than the actuall show, this is more exciting.
But about Tony being different..im not sure what he was like in the oroginall show, but i did expect more american slang and the use of the word ''fuck'', lame, but it would be more fun that way, im just a teenager, no matter how much id try to denie it, things like that entertaine me.


While the cursing might work in a playboy setting, it most definatly won't work in a work setting. Nor would slang words, no matter how playboy he is.
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supersonic124 said:
Your logic is flawed. Anime/Cartoons are completely different things. But with voice acting, the japs/dub actors are doing the SAME EXACT THING. Therefore seiyuu= voice actors. It's not debatable.


Cartoons and Anime are the same thing, no matter how much you argue that.
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Basicly because I thought that it would be more productive to sleep 20 minutes longer than watch this. I haven't red the comics, haven't seen the movie, I disliked it simply as something to spend my time with.

@supersonic124:
So, if anime and cartoons are not the same, could you explain to me the difference between Princess Mononoke and Watership Down (except story-related stuff like characters and message, obviously)?
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I like Witchblade anime better than this.
Feb 4, 2011 3:12 PM

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Meh... I am easily pleased.
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No, this scores low because its not good. For starters the plot is a joke, I mean Yinsen? Thats like a Spiderman story where the bad guy is uncle Ben. Brainwashing? Is that your take on originality? Japanese mindset? Who gives a fuck? This is supposed to be Iron Man not Japan Man. And I don't even need to mention all those bland new characters that only work as weak plot devices... at best...
Sorry folks, but this series sucks and this comes from a fan of Iron Man who used to love the TAS as a kid and has been reading Iron Man comics on and off for more than 15 years... I only hope that the Wolverine anime is better than this, way better.

PS And yes the Witchblade anime was much better than this...
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