Is yuzuki eba evil inside

Jan 26, 2014 4:37 AM

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i don't think she is evil, but she's a selfish bitch.
she didn't want to feel the guilt of saying no to kazama. she didn't want to feel the pain of explaining things to haruto so she just avoided him, it didn't matter how much he was suffering. then told him they should never see each other again. but, when she met him again, she didn't care that haruto would hurt asuka if she keeps hanging out with him. she didn't defend haruto when kiyomi and others blamed him for getting yuzuki only because kazama is dead and allowed him to take all the blame. she acted like bitch to haruto on many occasions despite her many many mistakes. well may be she is evil.

Bolt part is just hilarious, are you for real?
BTW, Haruto didn't want the guilt of taking his girlfriend back from Kazama, he is such a selfish bastard too.
Once Again, poor Asuka, Yuzuki should have thought of Asuka's feelings instead of her own. I mean she knew Haruto was not in love with Asuka and would have left Asuka if she approached him, she should have just disappeared and hope for Haruto to love Asuka for real (In case you don't get it, if Haruto really loved Asuka, he wouldn't have broke up with her that easily).
I know it was obvious to the reader that she pity date Kazama, but getting together with Haruto right after his dead, and defending Haruto would have just made it clear to the others characters especially Kiyomi, that she was pity dating him, I guess she really is a selfish bitch for not thinking on her own feelings and Haruto's, instead of the others. I am sure Kiyomi would have been so happy knowing his childhood friend and the love of her life was being only pitied while she was turned down even after loving him so much.

Jan 26, 2014 6:48 AM

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Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

Jan 26, 2014 6:56 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

After

Jan 26, 2014 6:59 AM

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hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

dude, after she holded hands with nanami, yuzuki forgave him, understood, and kissed. she dated him because she pitied him which for some odd reason decided to dump haruto. seriously, if kazam is gonna die the least she can do is tell her boyfriend about the whole thing. well, despite all this he took it half well. but still, if kazam was dying, what good reason would you give yuzuki for dumping haruto or in this case, how will the whole tokyo arc be told differently?

Jan 26, 2014 7:10 AM

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Spider-titan55 said:

hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

dude, after she holded hands with nanami, yuzuki forgave him, understood, and kissed. she dated him because she pitied him which for some odd reason decided to dump haruto. seriously, if kazam is gonna die the least she can do is tell her boyfriend about the whole thing. well, despite all this he took it half well. but still, if kazam was dying, what good reason would you give yuzuki for dumping haruto or in this case, how will the whole tokyo arc be told differently?

The thing is that some people think she might have thought that Haruto was going to leave her for Nanami at some point, so that's why she rather break up with him by telling him something that make her look bad, so he wouldn't have felt guilty if he wanted to move on with Nanami.
But sure she could have tried to tell Haruto about the whole situation, but there was no guaranty that he was just gonna let her pity date the other dude.

Jan 26, 2014 7:13 AM

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jose21 said:

Spider-titan55 said:

hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

dude, after she holded hands with nanami, yuzuki forgave him, understood, and kissed. she dated him because she pitied him which for some odd reason decided to dump haruto. seriously, if kazam is gonna die the least she can do is tell her boyfriend about the whole thing. well, despite all this he took it half well. but still, if kazam was dying, what good reason would you give yuzuki for dumping haruto or in this case, how will the whole tokyo arc be told differently?

The thing is that some people think she might have thought that Haruto was going to leave her for Nanami at some point, so that's why she rather break up with him by telling him something that make her look bad, so he wouldn't have felt guilty if he wanted to move on with Nanami.
But sure she could have tried to tell Haruto about the whole situation, but there was no guaranty that he was just gonna let her pity date the other dude.

true, but she could've just lied or had help from her friends. i meqan i'm very sure they are good liars. i mean yuzuki barely came up with a good one -_-

Jan 26, 2014 7:25 AM

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jose21 said:

Spider-titan55 said:

hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

dude, after she holded hands with nanami, yuzuki forgave him, understood, and kissed. she dated him because she pitied him which for some odd reason decided to dump haruto. seriously, if kazam is gonna die the least she can do is tell her boyfriend about the whole thing. well, despite all this he took it half well. but still, if kazam was dying, what good reason would you give yuzuki for dumping haruto or in this case, how will the whole tokyo arc be told differently?

The thing is that some people think she might have thought that Haruto was going to leave her for Nanami at some point, so that's why she rather break up with him by telling him something that make her look bad, so he wouldn't have felt guilty if he wanted to move on with Nanami.
But sure she could have tried to tell Haruto about the whole situation, but there was no guaranty that he was just gonna let her pity date the other dude.

No probably not...you know because talking about things usually resolves absurdity.

Yuzuki: He's going to be dying soon
Haruto: You think dating him while not loving him is really going to make him happy then?
Yuzuki: Well uh...

See why was that so hard.

Jan 26, 2014 7:41 AM

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hyperknees91 said:

jose21 said:

Spider-titan55 said:

hyperknees91 said:
Btw did Yuzuki say yes to Kazama before or after she saw Haruto holding hands with Nanami?

dude, after she holded hands with nanami, yuzuki forgave him, understood, and kissed. she dated him because she pitied him which for some odd reason decided to dump haruto. seriously, if kazam is gonna die the least she can do is tell her boyfriend about the whole thing. well, despite all this he took it half well. but still, if kazam was dying, what good reason would you give yuzuki for dumping haruto or in this case, how will the whole tokyo arc be told differently?

The thing is that some people think she might have thought that Haruto was going to leave her for Nanami at some point, so that's why she rather break up with him by telling him something that make her look bad, so he wouldn't have felt guilty if he wanted to move on with Nanami.
But sure she could have tried to tell Haruto about the whole situation, but there was no guaranty that he was just gonna let her pity date the other dude.

No probably not...you know because talking about things usually resolves absurdity.

Yuzuki: He's going to be dying soon
Haruto: You think dating him while not loving him is really going to make him happy then?
Yuzuki: Well uh...

See why was that so hard.

Right, if she would have told him, there is no way a normal person would have let her do it.

Feb 12, 2014 12:26 PM

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Spider-titan55 said:
I have been in the mangafox forum and s bunch of people pointed out and showed clues that yuzuki eba isn't a saint as she has meant to be. Does anybody else agree?

The second part of manga would be more interesting if Eba keeps behaving in her irrational way. Let's face it. The first part of manga was epically good precisely because of Eba's random and quirky behavior.

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Feb 12, 2014 12:37 PM

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bunny_lover said:

Spider-titan55 said:
I have been in the mangafox forum and s bunch of people pointed out and showed clues that yuzuki eba isn't a saint as she has meant to be. Does anybody else agree?

The second part of manga would be more interesting if Eba keeps behaving in her irrational way. Let's face it. The first part of manga was epically good precisely because of Eba's random and quirky behavior.

Yeah, it would be interesting if they did go that route and while her being an idiot was well handled in the Hiroshima arc, her character after her daddy issues was just heavily wasted and just made me wish the manga would end or if its better fir them to break up which was handled poorly and got back together way too easily

Mar 2, 2014 2:38 AM

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jose21 said:

Spider-titan55 said:

But did she have to dump haruto for that? I mean if kazama was dying then she could still just be with haruto and tell him what's going on. I mean surely he'll understand.

That's what makes her stupid, but being stupid doesn't make you evil. Haruto would be the devil himself if you use that reasoning.

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Red_Keys said:
Remember that time she got absolutely fucking pissed off at Haruto for almost literally no reason?

I do.

I remember the time Haruto felt the same way she did, when she was talking with the lesbian chick. That doesn't make her evil. Are you kidding me?

i wouldn't call eba evil just her teen characteristic, i mean in that time kanzaki x eba getting love dove in front of haruto it just show that she rather spend the rest of her month with somebody that she doesnt love so much so regardless of haruto feeling(teen characteristic being stupid and feeling good regardless of the person she like) but she does change, i mean she dint swing again in the last character probably of the experience.

most hated part is when she said she doesnt want to go out with tbe person she like. are you f*** kidding me she does not care of wat haruto feeling that time getting all cummy with kanzaki even though the whole reason of her going to that town was him and for the last days she want to be with some one else(they make up last day bullshit)

well anyway i think that wats started people hating her because of her teenage personality. she really swing i really hate her that part gettig all close with someone else.

Mar 2, 2014 4:02 AM

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yuzuki still acted the same in her grown up years as well as haruto. they both are immature, stupid, and never learned a god damn thing in their lives.

i also find it odd how you keep using the word swing in the discussion.

Mar 2, 2014 5:34 AM

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You said Yuzuki never learned a thing during the whole manga, but what's with Asuka? :D
She coudn't move on till the end.

Mar 2, 2014 7:01 AM

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at least she acts more like a grown up and handled things by herself. and no, i'm not sayign all women should be emotionally torn not getting a boyfriend all the time i meant that her boyfriend was taken away by some violet haired dimwit, being emotionally torn having no support from her ex boyfriend after he broke up with her and not caring what anyone thinks of him, notice every one of her friends having spouses, and is close to her ex boyfirend and his girlfriend. all of this happened and she manages to pull nthrough. i can relate to her because no matter how bad i have it in with my family and suffering through some internal conflicts i have manage to pull through and behave more maturly doing so.

yuzuki and haruto never learned a damn thing. and it's a shame because despit eharuto having an incredible character design to appeal to readers and act like a person in the end since he got back with eba he started to act less like an adult and more like a teenager.

Mar 2, 2014 7:33 AM

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In my opinion that was just wrong. Asuka didn't overcome the fact that Haruto didn't love her as much as Yuzuki.
That's why she jar on Harutos nerves even at the end of the series, as she visited him.

Mar 2, 2014 8:12 AM

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you did realize that he nevergave her a specific answer as to why he dumped asuka over yuzuki and what makes yuzuki so special. also, you have to admit that what haruto did to asuka was just unforgiving as he broke up with her out of nowhere, never comforted her, never cared what she thinks of him when he's with yuzuki, and sintead of hugging her and showing regret affter he witnessed her crying so hard he just yelled out some bullcrap.

if that were to happen to me you'd know i'd still be mad at haruto.heck, i've dealt with alot of bullcrap in my life and have heard so much bullcrap from time to time that it disgusts me. haruto choosing yuzuki's bs over asuka's feelings was just downright unforgving. i don't care if he has sex with her and shows her regrets what he did was just awful. the only thing he has going for him is that he acts like a person(despite still acting like a teenager) and that i like his deisgn.

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Mar 2, 2014 8:18 AM

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heck, if this were song jae gu he'd choose asuka over yuzuki and maybe show some great anger internally since back then he hated women.

speaking of which still hoping he gets with queen.

Mar 2, 2014 8:32 AM

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I didn't want to justify Harutos silliness, Spider. I just wanted to say that there are more characters, who didn't learn their lessons.

Mar 2, 2014 9:07 AM

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I didn't want to justify Harutos silliness, Spider. I just wanted to say that there are more characters, who didn't learn their lessons.

you mean the characters who were never seen again? yeah, rin never showed her character arch but that was because like asuka seo didn't give her an ending. yeah, takashi gave a pretty bad advice about haruto getting a new girl but at least he matured as did akari and the rest. the only ones who haven't matured are the ones who weren't even seen again or haven't had much panel time. the MCs however never showed any maturity.

Mar 2, 2014 10:22 AM

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We just saw Asuka at the end of the story.

As I said before, she was still clinging to Naruto. Too bad we didn't could see how she was doing after that.
Anyway, where is the next Fantasy-chapter and the spin-off?

Mar 2, 2014 10:49 AM

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Behemoth11 said:
We just saw Asuka at the end of the story.

As I said before, she was still clinging to Naruto. Too bad we didn't could see how she was doing after that.
Anyway, where is the next Fantasy-chapter and the spin-off?

i know that. heck, i was just waiting for her ACTUAL conclusion. that didn't even felt like a conclusion at all.

so far after yuzuki and nagato we might be getting two more with miyu and adachi sand then hopefully we'll get some spinoffs and some amagami ss versions.

Mar 21, 2014 3:03 AM

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eba yuzuki is a evil selfish bitch and is far worse than haruto in that, while haruto does stupid selfish things that hurt people, he never does anything to hurt yuzuki and will hurt anyone for her. yuzuki on the other hand hurts haruto for everyone else. the way she treated haruto in the kazama arc is unforgivable. no one will do that to someone they love especially not for someone they don't love. contrast it to the way haruto treated asuka for yuzuki's sake. the author did his best efforts in the last part of the manga to make her look good by having her wait for him. but haruto only broke up with her after she ended up in the hospital. dick move but still for her sake.
also considering how supposedly selflessly she acted in the kazama arc, the way she got close to haruto and stole him from asuka is also unforgivable. she could have acted just like she did in kazama arc and haruto would have truly moved on.
also after they got together and she starts freeloading off him again she acts like a spoiled bitch and treats him like shit.
lets not forget her selfishness when she acts too friendly with kanzaki narumi right in front of haruto in the first arc after realizing he likes her to avoid being hurt while hurting haruto.
throughout the manga haruto always tries not let her get hurt at any situation but she hurts him far too many times.

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Mar 31, 2014 9:36 AM

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Remember that time she got absolutely fucking pissed off at Haruto for almost literally no reason?

I do.

That's woman in general sometimes. Nothing evil about it.

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Mar 31, 2014 9:45 AM

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bunny_lover said:

Red_Keys said:
Remember that time she got absolutely fucking pissed off at Haruto for almost literally no reason?

I do.

That's woman in general sometimes. Nothing evil about it.

but not handled well not even at the end.

Apr 18, 2014 10:27 AM

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She ain't a saint but I don't think she's evil at all. Everything she did was for Haruto's sake.

Remember that she don't have as much information as the readers do. Try thinking things from her POV. She was the one who was suffering the most.

ReilanApr 18, 2014 11:21 AM

Apr 19, 2014 1:05 AM

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Reilan said:
She ain't a saint but I don't think she's evil at all. Everything she did was for Haruto's sake.

Remember that she don't have as much information as the readers do. Try thinking things from her POV. She was the one who was suffering the most.

yeah, but in haruto's perspective she would've told us her motive anyway. heck, it was so hard figuring out her character in this arc since all this manga ever does is foucs alot on haruto's perspective making it hard to figure it our for us hence all the stuff that were cut out and missing like each of the side characters' developmetns, characters who appear then dissaper like the lesbo and nagato, and what yuzuki must be doing i8ncluding some of the other characters. as a writer i know that many stories gave us clues and mysteries for the audiance and readers to figure out but the way the tokyo arc handled itself was just one big question mark leading it to a very bad story. seo tried very hard to make this smart but ultimately failed at the end of it. there are a few things we can get but most of the amount was never fully clear.

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^ I agree with this so much. To me, the story coud've been so much better if the tokyo arc wasn't handled so "ambiguously" to Haruto's POV. Even maybe a chapter or two, as a follow up in the later parts of the manga, where it shows Yuzuki confiding with Haruto, about that whole kazama saga and her POV, to give him a proper closure of that difficult period would be fine.

Haruto just forgave her for what she did based on his own "assumptions and understanding" of the situation, without seeking any proper closure, just to avoid further hurting her.

I feel really bad him (i really do) as it looked like he never really moved on from that entirely (Still thinking she loved Kazama and was only "probably" sure Yuzuki loved him more now). He'll just have to live the rest of his life with that little doubt in his heart (i.e. what would happen if Kazama is alive? etc) slowly eating him away.

Back to the topic:
Disclaimer: I honestly shipped Haruto x Eba (unpopular choice), i really do, because their chemistry/interactions felt so genuine and they honestly seemed to be the happiest together (especially Hiroshima arc/latter arcs).

But to me, Haruto gave his all to Eba since the Hiroshima arc (i.e. sacrificing his relationship with nanami if it meant chasing Eba out of the house) to the tokyo arc with kazama and till the end (except uncharacteristically breaking up with her for his work).

While Yuzuki, though never seemed to be evil (at least to me), had a knack in making very bad decisions which hurt Haruto alot in process, and thus, making her look bad as it never seems like she did her fair part in their relationship compared to Haruto tantamount efforts/concern towards her.

The only bad vibe/aftertaste probably i felt from her, after her shenanigans with Kazama, was her not pulling off a convincing redemption or a convincing character growth for the better ESPECIALLY in important moments. i.e. when Haruto was self-depreciating himself in front of Kazama grave or during their coming-of-age-ceremony (even further hurting him by saying "that's why i dated Kazama") and by leaving things unresolved.

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Aug 24, 2021 7:21 PM

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Ya eva is a bitch atleast she should have told haruto about his true feeling to him and that he just helping him and wath if in the the dating time between yuzuki and Kazama they kiss or have lost her virginity to Kazama that will be freaking NTR bro😱😱😱😱

Aug 24, 2021 7:21 PM

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Ya eva is a bitch atleast she should have told haruto about his true feeling to him and that he just helping him and wath if in the the dating time between yuzuki and Kazama they kiss or have lost her virginity to Kazama that will be freaking NTR bro😱😱😱😱

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