| I have been meaning to write this one for a while. I have complained lately how anime subsides from fandom's consciousness so quickly. I have also observed how streamed anime is so temporary. If you download the fansub of a show, you have it, but that is also transient. If you don't get it when it is new, you might not be able to get it later. This explains why relatively new and popular shows become"obscure" so quickly. You can't see them any more. Whenever I think of listing my most favorite anime, I first think of Cowboy Bebop, then Hanada Shounen-shi. After that there are lots of good ones but nothing jumps to mind as an all-time favorite. Now Cowboy Bebop after more than fifteen years remains very popular and easy to find. Not so for Hanada Shounen-shi. I know because I checked. There is a forum for it here at MAL, but other than myself, no one has commented there since early in 2007 when the show was released. They all seemed to love it as much as I do, but no one mentions it any more so few even know about this terrific show. I also checked it's availability. Bad news there I'm afraid. MAL lists half a dozen fansub groups that did it. Some don't exist anymore, some aren't in English but none seed the torrents anymore. I didn't check, but I'd be extremely and pleasantly surprised if anyone was streaming it. That leaves buying it. I found that Amazon will sell you a copy for the low, low price of only $275.00. Such a deal! Well, that leaves most of us out. Even the few of us who could afford it, how many are going to shell out that kind of cash for a show they have never seen? That's the problem. Many, many shows have similar stories. They're just not available. We can talk about these wonderful old shows and create a desire in newer fans to see them, but they can't. Now if I wanted, I could load some of these old shows back into my computer, figure out how to make torrents for them, upload them somewhere and seed them myself, but I wouldn't be able to tell anyone here about it. MAL's rules prevent anyone from linking to such sites, telling anyone about them or even asking. Quite rightly I think, because I have seen too many wonderful online communities slaughtered by the terminators of the Recoding Industry's Asshole's Association because of file sharing going on in them. So I guess we're just screwed as far as many old shows go. Can anyone come up with a solution to this dilemma? |
| "I just hope the good lord knows, what this life is all about 'cause I'm in the same position as when I started out. Now I know there's folk in hospitals who are far worse off than me, Oh, but that don't mean to much when my spirit don't feel free." - Mark Twain Blues lovers go here. Jazz lovers go here. Cowboy Bebop music lovers go here. |
| lol Yeah, those older shows are very pricey. Some of the older shows that I've watched aren't even subbed/dubbed lol I had to read the manga to know what was going on. Well, I hope there will be a solution to this. |
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| Yes this is definitely a problem since a lot of older anime is good but is not well known for some reason. I'm actually drawing a blank but I have looked for anime online before and just couldn't seem to find it anywhere. In all cases it was around 8 or more years old. Its quite easy to find newer anime everywhere but what happens when that becomes "old." Like you said the problem is for how long will it be available. I found 2 places to stream "Hanada Shounen-shi" in good quality. The actual episodes come from one site that actually has them on their server and the other site just plays them from that server as well(you know that whole third party excuse) and did not actually have the anime on their site. The subs are done by Anime Empire and appear to be solid subs. I checked a few episodes and they worked perfectly though I didn't look at all of them. $275.00 is definitely way too much for something that you might only watch a few times. Think of all the things you could do with that money. Unless somebody has stacks of money just waiting around to spent this is really a ridiculous price. I also struggle to come up with a solution. The only thing I can compare this to is video games. When certain games become obsolete and you cant even find them on eBay or amazon they are sometimes put up onto the developers website for free. Of course these games are about 12 years old and most wouldn't want to play them anyway.(sorry I know not everybody likes video games but its all I could think of) I realize this wouldn't work the same for anime since the companies want money but maybe they could be purchased by certain companies and put on their website. Hey, they could call it giving back to the fans. Funimation does this with newer and popular anime(claymore, black Lagoon) so I see no reason why it couldn't be done for lesser known shows. |
| If strength is justice, then is powerlessness a crime? |
| This morning someone sent me a link to a torrent site that offers Hanada Shounen-shi. I thanked them profusely and then chastised them for breaking MAL's rules and then invited them to join this club. =0) Accordion to the rules, I can't give you that link or even tell you the name of the site and you can't even ask. I wouldn't have it any other way. It isn't that have any strong moral objection to file sharing, it's that I don't want to endanger MAL. Places like this have become rare and I wandered in the wilderness too long. Now we could establish a place outside of MAL where we could share freely, but once established, we wouldn't be able to tell anyone here about it without breaking the rules. =0( |
| "I just hope the good lord knows, what this life is all about 'cause I'm in the same position as when I started out. Now I know there's folk in hospitals who are far worse off than me, Oh, but that don't mean to much when my spirit don't feel free." - Mark Twain Blues lovers go here. Jazz lovers go here. Cowboy Bebop music lovers go here. |
| I whole heartily agree that popular anime tends to quickly be forgotten among anime fans due to the rather transitory nature of being an anime fan. Many people get into it as a hobby in high school and college and maintain it for 4~7 years before losing interest of at least it being bumped way down in their priorities. Even those that stay fans for longer often become much less or not at all involved when anime communities so there isn't anyone to spread the love of older shows. I'm pretty blessed when it comes to old shows as I ran an anime download site for a while during college and amassed a decent size collection, but yeah for shows like Hanada while there are still a few sources left they are getting pretty scarce. |
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