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Dec 10, 2008 8:06 PM
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A good episode showing off Nanoha and Fate's new powers. Wonder who that mask man is...
Jun 26, 2009 4:30 AM
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I'm positive he's one of the real bad guys. It happened before: Precia was the real enemy. Not Fate. I'm pretty damn sure about it.

On another note... I was already yearning for an awesome battle like this! :D
Jul 1, 2009 4:29 AM
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Da_Nuke said:
I'm positive he's one of the real bad guys. It happened before: Precia was the real enemy. Not Fate. I'm pretty damn sure about it.

On another note... I was already yearning for an awesome battle like this! :D


I'm not so sure.. the words he said to Chrono, it sounded like he was actually helping Nanoha and the rest. But, there is no way those guys are really bad and i'm also trying to figure out if Hayate even knows that this going on.
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Aug 14, 2009 9:36 AM
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Fate and Nanoha got powered up, I look forward to seeing their full drive modes. And, I don't think we've seen the full power of Signum and gang, more epic battles coming up!
Apr 8, 2010 10:35 AM
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w00 new drive modes! =D
Jun 17, 2010 3:25 AM
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Who the hell is the new guy! (kinda reminds me of Hei from Darker than Black). The good guys just never seem to have enough people. Oh well...I liked the action in this episode.
Apr 8, 2011 4:25 PM
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Raising Heart is beginning to talk more and more...
Awesome upgrades!!!!
Jun 10, 2011 7:40 AM
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insan3soldiern said:
Da_Nuke said:
I'm positive he's one of the real bad guys. It happened before: Precia was the real enemy. Not Fate. I'm pretty damn sure about it.



I'm not so sure.. the words he said to Chrono, it sounded like he was actually helping Nanoha and the rest. But, there is no way those guys are really bad and i'm also trying to figure out if Hayate even knows that this going on.



I think so too
neither of them is the bad guys, they fight for one's good purpose for that I'm sure even if it's wrong.
Nov 13, 2013 11:02 PM
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Who's the new guy? Even the Belkans don't know him! Why is he giving advice to the enemy in front of him? O_o Also with Zafira, he was saying the same thing to Arf.

I'm speculating here, the four maybe trying to wish Hayate to be able to walk again or at least have a normal life?
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Dec 31, 2013 5:56 PM

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Funny, one moment they are hell bent on destroying the world (okay, we know more, and even Chrono etc. have their doubts, but technically they are the bad guys and "book of darkness" doesn't exactly sound like it's knitting instructions..), the other moment they fear of getting scolded by a 9-year old girl and appear sheepish, like some low henchmen when talking to the arch-villian. I can only try to imagine Signum's thoughts at hearing "Hayate wants to talk to you.."

Btw - Chrono failed again. Sure, he got Shamal there, but she wasn't exactly ready for a fight. And the moment someone was, he got his ass handed to him.

I wonder what the TSAB would have done if not for Nanoha, Yuuno, Fate and Aruf helping out. I would have expected an organization like this to simply send reinforcements, get several enforcers out there. Of course, somehow they wouldn't arrive until Nanoha and friends would've cleared up the mess, but they do not even attempt to..
Mar 21, 2014 11:55 PM

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Nanoha: "Axel shoota!"
Raging Heart: "Axel shooter."

It kind of made me chuckle. Like RH was correcting Nanoha how to pronounce it. Must be just me haha.

I've been wondering, with all the advanced technology and world-destroying magic they have, can't they just cure Hayate's paralysis? Being able to walk must be her wish right? World domination can't be it...or can it O__o
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Jul 6, 2014 8:02 AM

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Pretty nice development, let's see what will happen next!
Jan 15, 2016 5:12 AM
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lol chrono got rekt
Oct 15, 2017 6:28 PM

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also i still cant stop laughing at all the bad english, which for some reason remains unfixed in the dub

"master, please call me cartridge load!"

"let's shoot it!" "it" being a girl. then again, they did say at the end of this episode they weren't actually human. maybe raising heart is smarter than it seems


"It can be done, as for my master"

Usually this kind of stuff doesn't bother me, but I was cringing throughout that fight. I wish their weapons weren't so talkative.
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So Hayate was "alone" after all, as I guessed at first.. Did these thieves appear in her life after incident with evil book?..
One more random villain, maybe more, who are interested in evil book completion, I guess.. Looks bad..
Make Hayate the true owner of the book, huh..
Oh, ok, so in the end we see after all that these thieves weren't living with Hayate indeed, but rather were created.. Possibly by Hayate, though, not sure..
Still, the fact that they're created and stuff, have their master they must serve.. It doesn't make them any good as of now.. They still did and are doing shit, attacking people, attacking creatures..
Dec 23, 2019 10:50 PM

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Based on the last dialogue from Chrono, I believe their mission is not something complicated like healing Hayate or something, I think this "small wish" is merely for them to be able to live with Hayate, so Hayate will not be alone again.. It's hard not to cheer for them if that is the case ...
Even before this episode I can understand why they do all of this (other people in the world are insignificant compared to the most important person to you) but this episode make me care for antagonist group more ...
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Jul 5, 2024 10:28 PM

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Nanoha VS Vita, Fate VS Signum & Arf Vs Zafira one more time, cartridge load activated.

All that control practice Nanoha did in the 1st episode really helped out here against Vita.

Ah Chrono almost had Shamal, unfortunately that mysterious masked person attacked him and helped all the knights escape, either way those were some really good fights, they all managed to hold their own this time around with their new devices.

I'm glad that Hayate likes Suzuka's cats, I love cats, and as for Hayate, those knights aren't actually human but created magical and want her to be the master of the book of darkness.
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BIG reveals here!

First of all, the knights aren't human beings! Wow! I did not see that coming. And we now know that they want to make Hayate the book's master. The question is, how were they created, if Hayate didn't do it? If someone else made them, where is that person? And why are the knights loyal to Hayate, instead of them?

Don't think I didn't notice the introduction of a mysterious masked man with unclear motives in the same episode that these questions were raised. Did he create the knights? Why? He clearly wants them to remain free and continue filling the book. Perhaps he plans to steal it once it's filled, and use it himself?

Speaking of sneaky things the show is doing, the knights' fight with Nanoha, Fate, and the Bureau causing them to be late to dinner with Hayate is a great bit of foreshadowing. Their destructive and dangerous plan with the Book is putting a wedge between them and the person they're ostensibly doing it for, and the isolation is upsetting her. If they'd drop the Book plan and just focus on being a family with her, all of them would be much more happy.

This is what I loved about season 1 too: the villains are fighting for a cause that's making them unhappy, out of an obligation Nanoha doesn't understand. She will have to learn what drives them, understand why it's more important to them than their own happiness, and then use that understanding to convince them to stop. It's just like Fate!

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