worst season ever

Aug 8, 2024 10:14 AM

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@LoreofMars I mean, for you, seeing Muichiro playing with airplanes is funny? When it's the most useless and trashy thing we could see in demon slayer ☠️. Really, people now even defend the bad writing of a filler

@Leon888 I mean, yeah, that is what I’m saying. I like seeing these characters spending time together, bonding and just having fun like the kids that they are. To me, that adds to the tragedy of it, being reminded “oh yeah these are children fighting a war against demons”. Again, to each their own, if the season wasn’t your cup of tea more power to you, people can have their preferences. But I wouldn’t call a season that focuses more on the dynamics, relationships and some downtime “bad writing”. Plus seeing them bond is gonna make it hurt all the more during the next arc (and I’m so ready!)

Aug 8, 2024 10:20 AM

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Leon888 said:
@EGG_KING_ I agree that season 3 was disappointing, but at least something happened there, in this 4th season nothing happens ☠️

For me S3 was kind of a letdown in terms of story and characters tbh. Muichiro was an amazing character throughout but Mitsuri's character didn't really had anything interesting going on in her background (like interesting ambitions or compelling background story and motivations and such). Also she kind of felt like a fanservice character overall like let's be honest, I can't put her rejection story anywhere close to Uzui killing his siblings, Shinobu's sister dying and Rengoku's family drama.

Also the demons didn't intimidated me as much as Gyutaro and Akaza did so they were also a letdown as well IMO.

Overall S3 failed on a lot of parts while S4 delivered what's it was expected of i.e. a training arc. Even if there wasn't much to show, they perfectly did what they could've so by elimination of being less bad S4 was better.

@EGG_KING_ In reality, Mitsuri's story is appreciable precisely because it is the only story different from the others in which she had a normal past and did not necessarily have to be a character with a tragic background like all the other hashira (in a spin-off novel, in fact, this lack of motivation for Mitsuri is also addressed, after she discovered that Shinobu had become Hashira to avenge her sister, she felt guilty and there was a confrontation between the 2 for this). I agree with the demons, even if Ufotable could have improved them such as adding Gyokko's past (available through the databook) or giving Gyokko an explosive battle as happened with Gyutaro and Akaza, instead they treated everything very superficially. Instead S4 showed a lot of useless things, like Muichiro playing with airplanes (I wasn't like that when I went to kindergarten either), Tengen complaining about being useless, Gyomei's training was boring (also because of the slow pace of the anime), etc... in this season few things were interesting, except for the last episode (which annoys me they didn't add the crescent moons to load the moment)

Aug 8, 2024 10:28 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Phantom_373 Muichiro playing with the airplanes was horrible to watch (I will always criticize that episode because I literally threw up because it was so bad) Tengen complaining was useless, Gyomei's training was boring, Tomioka's past made no sense... there were a lot of bad episodes, lol

If you find Gyomei’s training borning fair enough to you.

But I can’t agree on the tengen take at all, none of what he said was useless or not needed. The thing about how he’s not at peace with retiring obviously makes sense because he’s still in condition to at least be of some use. Yet he’s staying of the front lines because of the promise he made with his wives.

It’s like having a family member come back from war very injured and asking them to go back out. Obviously tengen wants to be with the people he loves.

The muichiro scene with the aeroplanes wasn’t meant to have a particularly deep significance (to my knowledge) it’s just expanding on the hashira and making them more human by showing some hobbies of there’s. To show us that the demon slayers don’t constantly fight demons 24/7

And hey if u don’t like that and just want fights after fights then that’s on you. But considering the last 2 seasons have been heavily fight focused with little downtime. I appreciate this season as we haven’t had something like this since the last few episodes of season 1

@Phantom_373 In fact Tengen who complains about being useless when he proves to be stronger than most of the hashira, and the promise made to the wives I do not find a sufficient reason for him not to go to fight (there are demon slayers who do not even know how to do breathing who go to risk their lives and he does not go who is stronger and trained than all the others?), remembering that everyone is risking their lives in that moment.

If you want to show me the more human hashira, you have a lot of spin offs where you can adapt interesting dialogues to show more of the humanity of the hashira, for example in the novels Muichiro was explored much more in this arc as a human, for example he worries about Gyomei because the mark kills the hashira who reach 25 years and Gyomei was already 27, or the relationship between he and Mitsuri that grows in a mission to recover the swordsmith, etc ... not this crap about the airplanes that is useless.

Also from a battle shonen what do you expect? A slice of life anime? What reasoning is this if you only want fights it's only your fault, when the fights are the strong point of demon slayer? lol

Aug 8, 2024 10:30 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Theanimeman9 But throughout Demon Slayer we see them becoming stronger without seeing their training: in S2 for example we see Tanjiro exploit the sacred dance and we are only told in flashbacks how he did it, or Zenitsu exploit the divine speed without even being shown how he learned it (S3 tanjiro flashaback). Then you boast of being a reader of the manga, but I challenge you to show me where Zenitsur is shown learning that new move against Kaigaku? Where are the Hashira shown training to learn how to manifest the mark? Like Gyomei who we see unlocking it because yes. In this season we are not told anything useful, only Shinobu prepares the poisons, they plan a plan for Muzan and that's it.

the hashira's literally train alongside the slayers and some even by themselves at night. that is their training to become stronger and unlock the mark. they train the aspects of swordsmanship and meet the conditions of the mark during battle.

@Theanimeman9 And they don't explain anything about how they learn to manifest the brand, lol, you are a great reader from what I see 😂

Aug 8, 2024 10:32 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Theanimeman9 And they don't explain anything about how they learn to manifest the brand, lol, you are a great reader from what I see 😂

the brand? you mean the curse mark? if you mean the curse mark then I will not be continuing this discussion as you either haven't seen the show or are stupid. kanroji and muichiro literally explained it in a group discussion with the hashira's.

Aug 8, 2024 10:32 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Theanimeman9 I never said to skip this arc, I said that making a season just about training sucks because nothing happens, they should have merged this arc with S3 or made a longer season that also includes Castle Infinity. Also, what does this season give us? Muichiro playing with airplanes? Tengen saying he's useless when he tries to be stronger than most demon slayers? Tomioka depressed because his friend was eaten by a demon but in all these years he never did anything to eliminate that demon or at least point out that there was a demon in the test that was too strong and was causing problems? lol, it's not low attention, it's bad writing, especially since they don't even seem to get stronger, they just activate the mark and that's it.

lol, just bcus you don't like to learn more about characters doesn't mean it's bad. also, that last statement alone just goes to show how little you know if you think activating the curse mark is "that's just it". it's a big deal my man

@Theanimeman9 But why can't you read? I explain to you that what we see is contradictory or useless and you come out with: "if you don't like knowing more about the characters..." lol, if you read demon slayer as you read my comment, I believe you don't understand anything 😂

Aug 8, 2024 10:40 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Phantom_373 In fact Tengen who complains about being useless when he proves to be stronger than most of the hashira, and the promise made to the wives I do not find a sufficient reason for him not to go to fight (there are demon slayers who do not even know how to do breathing who go to risk their lives and he does not go who is stronger and trained than all the others?), remembering that everyone is risking their lives in that moment.

If you want to show me the more human hashira, you have a lot of spin offs where you can adapt interesting dialogues to show more of the humanity of the hashira, for example in the novels Muichiro was explored much more in this arc as a human, for example he worries about Gyomei because the mark kills the hashira who reach 25 years and Gyomei was already 27, or the relationship between he and Mitsuri that grows in a mission to recover the swordsmith, etc ... not this crap about the airplanes that is useless.

Also from a battle shonen what do you expect? A slice of life anime? What reasoning is this if you only want fights it's only your fault, when the fights are the strong point of demon slayer? lol

Firstly tengen may be strong but he’s the weakest hashira. Don’t let the visuals of s2 fool u into thinking he’s the top dog.

Secondly I say this again. Put yourself in his or his wives situation. They’re gonna want to stay together especially after all practically experiencing a war together. So they’re gonna wanna live their life in peace. They fulfilled there duty and the rest of the hashira carry on that torch.

It’s like if I went to the battlefield with my loved one and we came back both injured but able to fight. I’m not gonna want to go back out after our missions done and especially after such a close call to death. I’d want to spend my days with her grateful for the life we still have.

If u can’t accept tengen and his wives reasoning for that then that’s ur own problem

And with Muichiro development of a character does not have to be massive or over the top or anything. Even just adding in something simple like saying what there favourite food is can be better than nothing. It humanises them and makes them more than just moving dolls on a screen.

And from what I’m aware ufotable are not adapting the novels so there obviously not gonna add in extra content and just stick to the manga.

And yes of course battle shonen are obviously fight focused and heavily action. But if it was just fights 24/7 it would be incredibly bland. Character interactions, plot development, the emotional aspect, new characters, lighthearted moments, stuff like that is needed to make a story more than just a mindless fight show.

So yes of course one of the main things I watch demon slayer for is the fights. But if that was all it had to offer I wouldn’t consider it a favourite of mine.

Aug 8, 2024 11:30 AM

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Leon888 said:
@matraph00 The most honest comment I've read so far

I do not necessarily agree with what you say about some of the scenes we got with each Hashiras that were useless to the plot. It made the viewers get more attached to them just by spending time seeing them before they most likely die in the final battle. The spin off novels you keep talking about do seem like better stories than what we actually got for building up those characters. But I’m still not against the paper plane scene and others. I just think that if the main plot of this arc, the training, was done a lot better, it would make those little moments feel better too. But those moments were stuck in a bad season.

Also for season 3, I agree that it was very underwhelming. They literally started it by building up the upper moons and saying that the higher upper moons are the strongest. Then we get upper moon 4 and 5 which are both supposed to be stronger than 6, now we get two of them. They should completely wreak everything up. But they seem to get beaten so easily compared to upper moon 6 who is supposed to be weaker than any of those two but causes so much destruction and is so hard to beat and wounded Tengen so bad that he even stopped being an Hashira because of it.
And also the upper 3 is so strong that he survived his fight against an Hashira and even killed him. So you had expect upper 4 and 5 combined to be definitely stronger than upper 6 alone, maybe even stronger than upper 3 alone. Simply very underwhelming. But still not as bad as season 4

Aug 8, 2024 11:39 AM

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Phantom_373 said:

Leon888 said:
@Phantom_373 In fact Tengen who complains about being useless when he proves to be stronger than most of the hashira, and the promise made to the wives I do not find a sufficient reason for him not to go to fight (there are demon slayers who do not even know how to do breathing who go to risk their lives and he does not go who is stronger and trained than all the others?), remembering that everyone is risking their lives in that moment.

If you want to show me the more human hashira, you have a lot of spin offs where you can adapt interesting dialogues to show more of the humanity of the hashira, for example in the novels Muichiro was explored much more in this arc as a human, for example he worries about Gyomei because the mark kills the hashira who reach 25 years and Gyomei was already 27, or the relationship between he and Mitsuri that grows in a mission to recover the swordsmith, etc ... not this crap about the airplanes that is useless.

Also from a battle shonen what do you expect? A slice of life anime? What reasoning is this if you only want fights it's only your fault, when the fights are the strong point of demon slayer? lol

Firstly tengen may be strong but he’s the weakest hashira. Don’t let the visuals of s2 fool u into thinking he’s the top dog.

Secondly I say this again. Put yourself in his or his wives situation. They’re gonna want to stay together especially after all practically experiencing a war together. So they’re gonna wanna live their life in peace. They fulfilled there duty and the rest of the hashira carry on that torch.

It’s like if I went to the battlefield with my loved one and we came back both injured but able to fight. I’m not gonna want to go back out after our missions done and especially after such a close call to death. I’d want to spend my days with her grateful for the life we still have.

If u can’t accept tengen and his wives reasoning for that then that’s ur own problem

And with Muichiro development of a character does not have to be massive or over the top or anything. Even just adding in something simple like saying what there favourite food is can be better than nothing. It humanises them and makes them more than just moving dolls on a screen.

And from what I’m aware ufotable are not adapting the novels so there obviously not gonna add in extra content and just stick to the manga.

And yes of course battle shonen are obviously fight focused and heavily action. But if it was just fights 24/7 it would be incredibly bland. Character interactions, plot development, the emotional aspect, new characters, lighthearted moments, stuff like that is needed to make a story more than just a mindless fight show.

So yes of course one of the main things I watch demon slayer for is the fights. But if that was all it had to offer I wouldn’t consider it a favourite of mine.

I agree about Tengen not going to the final fight being stupid. Yes I understand the point about a veteran coming back injured not wanting to go back into the army. But we are not just talking about going back into the army. That’s the final fight, the one that will decide the fate of the world since the Demon slayer corp if they lose are going lose most if not all their demon slayers. The stakes are way too high for anyone capable of fighting to stay behind in that situation. Anyway at some points, if Muzan wins this fight, the demons will get to Tengen and his wives eventually and kill them too. There is no getting out of this. It makes absolutely no sense for him to stay behind in this context especially if he still wants to fight as far as I remember and is stil stronger than like 99% of demon slayers

Aug 8, 2024 11:43 AM

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matraph00 said:

Phantom_373 said:

Firstly tengen may be strong but he’s the weakest hashira. Don’t let the visuals of s2 fool u into thinking he’s the top dog.

Secondly I say this again. Put yourself in his or his wives situation. They’re gonna want to stay together especially after all practically experiencing a war together. So they’re gonna wanna live their life in peace. They fulfilled there duty and the rest of the hashira carry on that torch.

It’s like if I went to the battlefield with my loved one and we came back both injured but able to fight. I’m not gonna want to go back out after our missions done and especially after such a close call to death. I’d want to spend my days with her grateful for the life we still have.

If u can’t accept tengen and his wives reasoning for that then that’s ur own problem

And with Muichiro development of a character does not have to be massive or over the top or anything. Even just adding in something simple like saying what there favourite food is can be better than nothing. It humanises them and makes them more than just moving dolls on a screen.

And from what I’m aware ufotable are not adapting the novels so there obviously not gonna add in extra content and just stick to the manga.

And yes of course battle shonen are obviously fight focused and heavily action. But if it was just fights 24/7 it would be incredibly bland. Character interactions, plot development, the emotional aspect, new characters, lighthearted moments, stuff like that is needed to make a story more than just a mindless fight show.

So yes of course one of the main things I watch demon slayer for is the fights. But if that was all it had to offer I wouldn’t consider it a favourite of mine.

I agree about Tengen not going to the final fight being stupid. Yes I understand the point about a veteran coming back injured not wanting to go back into the army. But we are not just talking about going back into the army. That’s the final fight, the one that will decide the fate of the world since the Demon slayer corp if they lose are going lose most if not all their demon slayers. The stakes are way too high for anyone capable of fighting to stay behind in that situation. Anyway at some points, if Muzan wins this fight, the demons will get to Tengen and his wives eventually and kill them too. There is no getting out of this. It makes absolutely no sense for him to stay behind in this context especially if he still wants to fight as far as I remember and is stil stronger than like 99% of demon slayers

Well if it makes you feel better

Aug 8, 2024 12:24 PM

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Leon888 said:
@Akilis93 Why do you see Muichiro playing with airplanes, Tengen complaining about being useless, Tanjiro and the others facing training sessions that will be useless for the future... does this mean that something is happening to you? Because if not, you're the one who doesn't seem to understand anything 🤣

Ok. whatever man.

Aug 8, 2024 3:12 PM

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Leon888 said:
@Thicc_Ink I agree that the third season was disappointing, but at least something happened there, in this fourth season nothing happens ☠️. Also I don't understand this thing about the break, they could have easily added this arc in season 3 or made a longer season in which they also added castle infinity, but a season only of training, what a pain in the ass I dare say because nothing happens

but things did happen this season! We got a huge amount of development for all the hashira. And they probably didn’t add this arc to season 3 for production reasons. Just because it wasn’t action oriented doesn’t mean nothing happened.

Aug 8, 2024 3:25 PM

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I liked how much they expanded into each hashira, if they made it a movie or only a couple episodes the expanding on those characters would just not be there, but it does feel a little slow and not a lot happens happens, although I don't think, to me at least that made it any worse, I haven't read the maga so I wouldn't know short that arc was there maybe if it was two chapters I would understand the complaints overall I loved watching it, zenitsu is still annoying.

I 💯 agree. Zen was overly annoying this season like omg. Like I get his character but they can most definitely turn it down a notch. I also think it was also slow too and I haven’t read the manga either so, I dunno hopefully the movie justifies the short season🤭👀

Aug 13, 2024 1:51 PM

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Its sloppy at best. I haven't seen Episode 8 yet, but until the last 5 or so minutes, nothing really happened this season.

Nothing really nothing was at the scale of previous season. In past seasons we had training episodes, remembrance of emotional past, comic scenes & fight scenes but in this season they have no soul at all. Each of them lie flat & soulless.

The storyline of this season has a lot of noticeable plot holes, some of which would could have masked or ignored if not for the other issues.

The pacing was just pathetic. In other seasons, it has been slightly off but that would usually be covered or justified by more time to something better. But here one shit is fastracked to show another meaningless shit. A lot of this shit could have been skipped & this season should've been made into a movie instead or sequel movies should have been shown here in this season itself.

The studio wasn't even seem much keen on maintaining the art & animation quality throughout the season. The issues were very much noticeable.

All these issues collectively not only highlight themselves but others as well. At times, they exaggerate the issues leading to loss of enjoyment factor of this season.

I doubt the remaining last episode could do any better to salvage this season.

Aug 26, 2024 5:26 AM

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Oh yeah this season was straight up shit. They are MILKING kny rn, and they aren’t even trying to hide it atp. I’m genuinely so pissed about everything, this whole shit season and now 3 damn movies, that I don’t even want to watch it anymore. I’m going to, but I haven’t rewatched any of it in months (and I would like to add it was my favorite anime by far for a long time, so I would pretty much always be rewatching it)

Oct 16, 2024 8:41 AM

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No wonder. This season is focused on its weakest aspect: the characters and "humor". And less on its strongest aspect: the beautifully animated fights.

Nov 28, 2024 9:43 PM

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My main issue is that in each prior season they showed the past of 1-2 Hashira, the Upper Demons, and had it surrounded by action, and this one is just training and goofiness.

The last episode was the saving grace of the whole season. All other episodes could be played as just audio and have the same effect.

Knowing there are going to be 3 Infinity Castle movies was the only thing that made me push to actually pay attention.

Dec 2, 2024 6:39 PM

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so much more couldve been fleshed out too. we dont need to know every hashira. the manga is so barebones and had so much room for anime original content. i feel like those 7 episodes were completely wasted

Jan 2, 3:38 AM

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Leon888 said:
@Thicc_Ink I agree that the third season was disappointing, but at least something happened there, in this fourth season nothing happens ☠️. Also I don't understand this thing about the break, they could have easily added this arc in season 3 or made a longer season in which they also added castle infinity, but a season only of training, what a pain in the ass I dare say because nothing happens

but things did happen this season! We got a huge amount of development for all the hashira. And they probably didn’t add this arc to season 3 for production reasons. Just because it wasn’t action oriented doesn’t mean nothing happened.

@Thicc_Ink But that's not true, the only ones who had a bit of depth were Gyomei and Gyu, the others had nothing but useless forgettable fillers with only Sanemi who actually showed something, furthermore nothing happened, because this whole season could easily be summed up in 5 episodes, with only the last episode that was nice to watch, the rest extremely flat and forgettable

Jan 2, 3:39 AM

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matraph00 said:

Phantom_373 said:

Firstly tengen may be strong but he’s the weakest hashira. Don’t let the visuals of s2 fool u into thinking he’s the top dog.

Secondly I say this again. Put yourself in his or his wives situation. They’re gonna want to stay together especially after all practically experiencing a war together. So they’re gonna wanna live their life in peace. They fulfilled there duty and the rest of the hashira carry on that torch.

It’s like if I went to the battlefield with my loved one and we came back both injured but able to fight. I’m not gonna want to go back out after our missions done and especially after such a close call to death. I’d want to spend my days with her grateful for the life we still have.

If u can’t accept tengen and his wives reasoning for that then that’s ur own problem

And with Muichiro development of a character does not have to be massive or over the top or anything. Even just adding in something simple like saying what there favourite food is can be better than nothing. It humanises them and makes them more than just moving dolls on a screen.

And from what I’m aware ufotable are not adapting the novels so there obviously not gonna add in extra content and just stick to the manga.

And yes of course battle shonen are obviously fight focused and heavily action. But if it was just fights 24/7 it would be incredibly bland. Character interactions, plot development, the emotional aspect, new characters, lighthearted moments, stuff like that is needed to make a story more than just a mindless fight show.

So yes of course one of the main things I watch demon slayer for is the fights. But if that was all it had to offer I wouldn’t consider it a favourite of mine.

I agree about Tengen not going to the final fight being stupid. Yes I understand the point about a veteran coming back injured not wanting to go back into the army. But we are not just talking about going back into the army. That’s the final fight, the one that will decide the fate of the world since the Demon slayer corp if they lose are going lose most if not all their demon slayers. The stakes are way too high for anyone capable of fighting to stay behind in that situation. Anyway at some points, if Muzan wins this fight, the demons will get to Tengen and his wives eventually and kill them too. There is no getting out of this. It makes absolutely no sense for him to stay behind in this context especially if he still wants to fight as far as I remember and is stil stronger than like 99% of demon slayers

Well if it makes you feel better

@Phantom_Siren652 But they are of no use, because they were safe even without bodyguards.

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