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Jul 10, 2024 7:33 AM
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Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.
Jul 10, 2024 7:37 AM
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IMO release order is usually the correct order, but in this case chronological order is also totally valid.
Or you can just checkt he following forum thread:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1834526

Jul 10, 2024 7:46 AM
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Highly recommend Light Novel order to get the author's intended experience. That would be watching Bake first, then Kizu, then Nise etc.
Jul 10, 2024 7:47 AM
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Watch it after bake but before the other stuff, based on light novel order, as god intended (other than that, go by release order, these movies are the only exception).

Chronological order is not really how the series was made to be experienced, but do what you think is best.
Jul 10, 2024 7:58 AM
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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

release order is always the best. and even if you start this chronologically. the rest of the series is basically impossible to follow chronologically
Jul 10, 2024 7:59 AM
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Watch it after bake but before the other stuff, based on light novel order, as god intended (other than that, go by release order, these movies are the only exception).

Chronological order is not really how the series was made to be experienced, but do what you think is best.

"god intended" fr the peakest author ever
Jul 10, 2024 8:05 AM
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i think you should watch kizu first because bake wont be as confusing
Jul 10, 2024 8:23 AM
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Welp, even though bake is a bit confusing but still recommend watch monogatari series follow the produce years
Jul 10, 2024 8:26 AM
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watch it after bake, that is how it was intended
Jul 10, 2024 8:37 AM

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On the contrary, it would be confusing to see it in an attempt of chronological order.
The series were made to not be confusing in the order in which they came out.
Jul 10, 2024 8:41 AM
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well, you can if you want to watch the series in chronological order.
Jul 10, 2024 9:00 AM

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No. Kizu was the second LN to be released, so I'd recommend watching after Bakemonogatari

Jul 10, 2024 9:22 AM

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The light novel order is the best, you can find it online.
Jul 10, 2024 10:12 AM
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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

watch it , and then after completing this watch Nekomonogatari it has 4 episode and then go towards the main series Bakemonogatari.
it's the best way to understand this anime.
Jul 10, 2024 10:18 AM
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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

Use light novel order. Bakemonogatari first, then this, and then Nise and everything else.

Don't listen to people who tell you to watch in anime release order, the movies were meant to release after bake, but were delayed for years due to production problems.


Also, actual chronological order is terrible unless you're doing a rewatch. Lots of twists are written in a way that watching in chronological order doesn't fully convey what they are supposed to mean for the plot
Jul 10, 2024 10:38 AM
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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

Honestly, the 2 main starting points are bake and kizu

Overall bake first, works better especially with the character arc of Hanekawa Tsubasa

But kizu first is also very valid

One of the biggest advantages of kizu first is that the theatrical release means it's super polished, the french new wave direction style is way more prominent,

and it's overall less daunting than being hit with walls of texts that aren't necessary to enjoy the story, but does serve to heighten the experience, that's in the beginning of every bake episode

Overall, bake is a bit out there in terms of it's direction, and kizu is a bit more palatable


Story wise, kizu first leaves you with this sort of melancholy when you get into bake

Bake first, carries itself as more of a mystery, where kizu will eventually reveal its secrets to you


No matter if you went with bake first or kizu first
Personally, I think it's imperative to watch kizu before nise, else you be out of the loop during a reconciliation
Jul 10, 2024 10:51 AM
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kizu first then follow release order so you wouldn't drop bake out of confusion
Jul 10, 2024 11:25 AM

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the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately. and the airing order had production delays

props for anyone who recommended the novel order
PhantomnocomicsJul 10, 2024 11:39 AM
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Phantomnocomics said:
@zeyrox1109 - @ReXiRa - @Paharo05 - @Chitransh6ix9ine - @Cielord - @Epiccgaymer - @GoodReiShun - @ShySeishuro - @Rishon007 - @betaweeb - @michal_b - @StarInEyes



the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately.

props for anyone who recommended the novel order

don't know why I'm being @ed here, I said to watch second

Jul 10, 2024 11:28 AM
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watch the series un the release order. it will help retain the element of mystery and many scenes might have less impact if you know the backstory than if you do not.
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Phantomnocomics said:
@zeyrox1109 - @ReXiRa - @Paharo05 - @Chitransh6ix9ine - @Cielord - @Epiccgaymer - @GoodReiShun - @ShySeishuro - @Rishon007 - @betaweeb - @michal_b - @StarInEyes



the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately. and the airing order had production delays

props for anyone who recommended the novel order

Do not @ me ever again

While I do agree with you

Getting someone to watch an anime series is a wholly different ballpark

If you're inflexible like this, even if you're right (which you are), people will just deem you an asshole

Edit: literally in the watch order visual you sent, there's an "alternate entry point" right above kizu

To reiterate my point, while it might in some ways ruin the flow Hanekawa Tsubasa's Character Arc, it's still an overall acceptable start to the series
Jul 10, 2024 11:32 AM
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@Phantomnocomics uhhh ok? that is what I said if you can't read; to watch it AFTER bake
Jul 10, 2024 11:37 AM

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@zeyrox1109 - @ReXiRa - @Paharo05 - @Chitransh6ix9ine - @Cielord - @Epiccgaymer - @GoodReiShun - @ShySeishuro - @Rishon007 - @betaweeb - @michal_b - @StarInEyes



the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately. and the airing order had production delays

props for anyone who recommended the novel order

Do not @ me ever again

While I do agree with you

Getting someone to watch an anime series is a wholly different ballpark

If you're inflexible like this, even if you're right (which you are), people will just deem you an asshole

Edit: literally in the watch order visual you sent, there's an "alternate entry point" right above kizu

To reiterate my point, while it might in some ways ruin the flow Hanekawa Tsubasa's Character Arc, it's still an overall acceptable start to the series
@ReXiRa that's an exception with the kizu novel since nisio said kizu is an exception and can be read by itself. the movies however lack the dialogues that made kizu stand on its own in the novel.

also, i didn't catch that note when i posted that picture. fixed it
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Jul 10, 2024 11:42 AM

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@Phantomnocomics uhhh ok? that is what I said if you can't read; to watch it AFTER bake
@Rishon007 yeah, hence why i said props for anyone who recommended the novel order.

@jatin587 yeah, exactly. the novel release order but the problem is that a lot of people who are anime only got fucked over by the production delays and subsequently spoiled, and now they insist that the airing order is the ''novel order'' out of ignorance
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Jul 10, 2024 11:43 AM
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Phantomnocomics said:
@ReXiRa that's an exception with the kizu novel since nisio said kizu is an exception and can read by itself. the movies lacked the dialogues that made kizu stand on its own in the novel.

also, i didn't catch that note when i posted that picture. fixed it

Thank you for needing to @ me again after I specifically told you not to :)

While I am an advocate for LN release order, people can do whatever they want

Last thing I want to do is deter from people starting this series because all the fans can't seem to agree which order is best
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the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately. and the airing order had production delays

props for anyone who recommended the novel order
@Phantomnocomics Don't see why you tagged me as i suggested the novel order.

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@ReXiRa that's an exception with the kizu novel since nisio said kizu is an exception and can read by itself. the movies lacked the dialogues that made kizu stand on its own in the novel.

also, i didn't catch that note when i posted that picture. fixed it

Thank you for needing to @ me again after I specifically told you not to :)

While I am an advocate for LN release order, people can do whatever they want

Last thing I want to do is deter from people starting this series because all the fans can't seem to agree which order is best
@ReXiRa it's not about fans agreement or a universal one. mono suffers from the same watch order syndrome that fate series has. fate stay night come out first and then fate zero followed later but because ufotable adapted fate zero first, a lot of anime onlies keep insisting to start with fate zero even tho it's supposed to be a sequel.

to give u a western example, it would be like starting star wars with the sequels or prequels which is doable but like why would you do it and not start the series from the original story and go onward from there? u dig me?

but yeah, fans being deterred by the notion of the series being complicated to watch can be annoying. i got ya on that
Jul 10, 2024 12:48 PM
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Phantomnocomics said:
@ReXiRa it's not about fans agreement or a universal one. mono suffers from the same watch order syndrome that fate series has. fate stay night come out first and then fate zero followed later but because ufotable adapted fate zero first, a lot of anime onlies keep insisting to start with fate zero even tho it's supposed to be a sequel.

to give u a western example, it would be like starting star wars with the sequels or prequels which is doable but like why would you do it and not start the series from the original story and go onward from there? u dig me?

but yeah, fans being deterred by the notion of the series being complicated to watch can be annoying. i got ya on that

Oh my fucking god I do not care

What part of don't @ me do you not understand you nitwit

I do not need you to make that star wars analogy, I've made the same one myself (never online)


When will it get through your thick fucking skull that
A. I DO NOT WANT YOU TO TAG ME EVER AGAIN
B. Why the fuck are you treating me like I'm against the LN order? Are you trying to get on my nerves? Is that it
C. I hope you both sides of your pillow are always warm, please just leave me alone, I do not want my fucking username in your fucking mouth
Jul 10, 2024 1:33 PM

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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

Chronologically yes, it’s supposed to be watched that way. The only problem is that kizumonogatari isn’t really an accurate representation of the monogatari series, the rest of the series doesn’t have action in it.
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@ReXiRa it's not about fans agreement or a universal one. mono suffers from the same watch order syndrome that fate series has. fate stay night come out first and then fate zero followed later but because ufotable adapted fate zero first, a lot of anime onlies keep insisting to start with fate zero even tho it's supposed to be a sequel.

to give u a western example, it would be like starting star wars with the sequels or prequels which is doable but like why would you do it and not start the series from the original story and go onward from there? u dig me?

but yeah, fans being deterred by the notion of the series being complicated to watch can be annoying. i got ya on that

Oh my fucking god I do not care

What part of don't @ me do you not understand you nitwit

I do not need you to make that star wars analogy, I've made the same one myself (never online)


When will it get through your thick fucking skull that
A. I DO NOT WANT YOU TO TAG ME EVER AGAIN
B. Why the fuck are you treating me like I'm against the LN order? Are you trying to get on my nerves? Is that it
C. I hope you both sides of your pillow are always warm, please just leave me alone, I do not want my fucking username in your fucking mouth
@ReXiRa you brought up fair points and it was worth addressing since a lot of people who will pass by the thread might see them and get informed and educated by them. no need to get paranoid by it.

@cielord hence why i said prosp for anyone who did
Jul 10, 2024 3:16 PM
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Definitely watch Monogatari. It’s a masterpiece.

Also, go by the novel order that was posted in this thread.
Jul 10, 2024 5:43 PM
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I would say watching this first, and chronological order in general, is the best, but you should know the quality of the movies far surpasses the tv show. which isn't bad since I think the movies surpass all of anime ever made. but if you continue in chronological order, it is fairly annoying to so since you have to jump around seasons so often. but I do think it's more enjoyable chronologically, since release order just screws with your head
Jul 10, 2024 6:01 PM

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I would say watching this first, and chronological order in general, is the best, but you should know the quality of the movies far surpasses the tv show. which isn't bad since I think the movies surpass all of anime ever made. but if you continue in chronological order, it is fairly annoying to so since you have to jump around seasons so often. but I do think it's more enjoyable chronologically, since release order just screws with your head
@Animorphimagi it's supposed to be a mystery story hence why the story is written out of order......''screw with your head''??????????
Jul 10, 2024 6:05 PM

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i can see why ppl say to watch it in chronological order, its easier to follow, however if you do pay attention, watching it in ln order aint that confusing imo. If you decide to watch it, i recommend the ln order since it is the order the author intended. Plus i will also advise you to watch bake before kizu since bake establishes the characters, especially the protagonist. After watching bake you will have a grasp on the mc, how he acts, how he thinks, etc. Kizu doesnt do this, therefore watching kizu without this understanding, some scenes imo wont make sense and the conclusion will not have the same payoff.
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Phantomnocomics said:
@ReXiRa you brought up fair points and it was worth addressing since a lot of people who will pass by the thread might see them and get informed and educated by them. no need to get paranoid by it.

@cielord hence why i said prosp for anyone who did

OH MY FUCKING GOD STOP TAGGING ME
Jul 10, 2024 9:09 PM
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i can see why ppl say to watch it in chronological order, its easier to follow, however if you do pay attention, watching it in ln order aint that confusing imo. If you decide to watch it, i recommend the ln order since it is the order the author intended. Plus i will also advise you to watch bake before kizu since bake establishes the characters, especially the protagonist. After watching bake you will have a grasp on the mc, how he acts, how he thinks, etc. Kizu doesnt do this, therefore watching kizu without this understanding, some scenes imo wont make sense and the conclusion will not have the same payoff.

I don't think chronological order is easier to follow, you'd have to watch an episode of koyomi every now and then, and some plot beats would be way developed way too late or way too early

Also, that would mean watching Hana at the very end, and by that point you'll be like "oh yeah, there was that monkey's paw/rainy devil back like 50 episodes ago"
Jul 10, 2024 10:52 PM
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watch bakemonogatari 1st then kizumonogatari(the 3 films)
Jul 11, 2024 12:41 AM
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Watching Kizumonogatari first is definitely valid. But I still think going by light novel release is the way to go. So Bakemonogatari first, and then the 3 Kizumonogatari movies.
Jul 11, 2024 6:18 AM
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Nah watch bakemonogatari first
Jul 11, 2024 11:51 PM
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Rockyjams909 said:
Should I watch this before the main series (like bakemonogatari)? I'm wondering because it's the chronologically the first in the series and I'm afraid that I won't get some of the stuff they're saying because I didn't watch this.

If I were to do it over again, knowing what I know after having seen them all and being a member of the NisioisiN cult, I would definitely watch the chronologically first movies first. If only to reduce the frustration from wondering about things in the later series that aren't spoilers but that are annoying that we don't know about them. plus, Kizo can be a pain to find, so if you have it, watch it!
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Watch it after Bakemonogatari.
Jul 12, 2024 10:52 PM
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I recommend the novel release order as it was in the way it wa intended, and the message behind kizu hits much harder after watching bake, but the author himself said it was fine to watch kizu first.
Jul 21, 2024 12:58 AM
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You can.

It's essentially a prequel to the series. The only thing to expect is that the movie animations are extremely good while the show is decent animation (As far as I've watched)
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@Phantomnocomics Just now I realized the @.

Those of us who only watch the anime recommend watching it in broadcast order, because that way we get hooked and enjoy the series. (At least it's my case)

It's good that those who read the LN recommend that order because it's the one the author prefers. Everyone is free to do what they want. I mean, It's just a recommendation post, everyone chooses what to follow and that's fine.

For my part, I would like to read the LN someday, but they haven't been officially published in my country and I prefer not to read it pirated.
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the novel order is the intended and correct one, anyone who shills for the chronological and/or airing order have no fucking idea what they're talking about, they're gonna get themselves spoiled that way since the FUCKING STORY WAS WRITTEN OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER deliberately. and the airing order had production delays

props for anyone who recommended the novel order
@Phantomnocomics Then when should we watch koyomimonogatari half episodes after completing the series?
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@Phantomnocomics Then when should we watch koyomimonogatari half episodes after completing the series?
@play_hrtz watch it as the order entails which is after tsuki

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