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The situation around Sasakoi & the possible reason for the awful production quality

Whisper Me a Love Song
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May 31, 2024 2:38 AM
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Hey, everybody 👋

Unfortunately, but I have extremely sad news for all of you. Just recently one very interesting and important tweet came out that literally explains why sasakoi came out the way we see it right now. Looking ahead, I'll just say one thing - the project was doomed literally from the beginning, but each time the situation got worse, worse and worse, and if you think that the 7th episode is the limit - you are mistaken.
But if you want a detailed answer to the question “why?” - I highly recommend reading this tweet from beginning to end.


Source: https://x.com/Patstar_1999/status/1796272375467753625


And my final advice to all of you - NEVER, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, LOOK AT ANY MORE PROJECTS THAT WILL BE PRODUCED BY "YOKOHAMA ANIMATION".
MineFord_gurmeMay 31, 2024 3:48 AM
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i cant even lie anymore, the adaptation sucks, i didn't expect much considering how it goes with most Yuri like this one but this was actually worse than i expected
May 31, 2024 4:54 AM
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I mean tbh, as soon as I saw cloudhearts I knew it was gonna be ass. Such a shame bc I love the manga but what can ya do
May 31, 2024 5:10 AM
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I agree. The anime is pretty mid. I don't like the animation quality. The manga is better, like WAY BETTER by far. That's just my take ofc.
May 31, 2024 5:31 AM
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Someone in the comments said that even the mangaka dropped it.... so sad
May 31, 2024 6:19 AM
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Ansilorid said:
Someone in the comments said that even the mangaka dropped it.... so sad

its understandable tho, if i was in his place and my work got a shit adaptation, i dont think i would have the strength to watch it
May 31, 2024 6:51 AM
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I remember saying weeks ago that this adaptation wasn’t very good, and few people argued with me about it. Well to those who argued, proof is kinda in the pudding as they say. Really unfortunate as the manga is extremely good, with just such a lackluster adaptation. I will still watch it as I do enjoy the story itself, but definitely read the manga, it is far better.
May 31, 2024 6:54 AM
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In my case i absolutely adore whisper it’s currently my second favourite manga.

With the anime, I do definitely notice the bad production and how they’ve definitely cut through bits of the story.

As it stands for me the anime just can’t compare to the manga but I still do like the anime a lot. I really like the music and think the art style is cute.

And hey there’s worser adaptations for manga out there (looking at you Tokyo ghoul)
May 31, 2024 8:52 AM
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This thread is crazy I’m coming to the shows defense. While some aspects of the animation aren’t great the overall animation and style hasn’t been horrible. Note that I am not comparing it to the manga for I have not read it.
May 31, 2024 9:44 AM
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i think the show looks fine besides the google slide transitions
May 31, 2024 11:08 AM
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I like the manga but the animation, especially performances, are absolutely abysmal. Like laughably bad.
May 31, 2024 11:23 AM
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eggrollSource said:
I like the manga but the animation, especially performances, are absolutely abysmal. Like laughably bad.

Could not help but notice in the most recent episode that every time the camera zoomed out during performances the microphones in front of characters would just vanish and then reappear when they did close ups. So negligent with attention to detail, impossible to defend that.
May 31, 2024 11:27 AM

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I remember seeing a comment on the 2nd or 3rd trailer saying that they were glad the anime was delayed because they care about the quality. After episode 3 I rewatched all 3 episodes while reading the manga. I just felt like I had a intuition about the anime and something was off. Yuri anime has a cursed track record. Out of the three anime that have received sequels two were comedy and one is debatable not to be classified as yuri. I follow the manga artist on twitter and Takeshima hasn’t posted, retweeted, or liked anything regarding the anime since May 10th. Unless there is something we don’t know about I think Takeshima doesn’t believe in the quality or ever promote it again.
Jun 2, 2024 2:55 AM
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This thread is crazy I’m coming to the shows defense. While some aspects of the animation aren’t great the overall animation and style hasn’t been horrible. Note that I am not comparing it to the manga for I have not read it.
@Himedanshi_1

It's the "mob mentality" that is so pervasive in so many Gen Z people nowadays.

After all, many of them don't have the intellectual capacity to form much of an opinion of anything themselves (thinking for yourself isn't taught in many schools/universities nowadays, with millions of students taught "what" to think instead of "how" -- look at the insanity of the Pro-Hamas students, all brain-washed by far-left teachers/professors into supporting an actual terrorist group), so they have to wait for what the mob tells them to think.

And once they know what they're supposed to think and believe, they then go rushing off en masse to destroy someone else's life/some company's income. Just because they believe their "morals" are superior to someone else's.

Vile, is what I call it. And so effing sick of it.

And yep, I'm loving the show. It's fun, sweet and full of feels. Adore the art style too.
WienGirlJun 2, 2024 3:49 AM
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@MineFord_gurme

Except half the information from that account on X is completely incorrect.

Hard to believe anything they say when they can't get half the details about the anime, the anime production or the number of people working on specific aspects of it correct.

Besides, I'm not "woke" enough to listen to some rando X account with a handful of followers, or to agree with cancel culture. All cancel culture does is destroy people's lives and, much of the time, they're people who had nothing to do with the supposed "crime" in the first place.

And personally, I love the anime.

Sure, it has some production issues, but the characters are sweet AF, the plot is fun, the music is cool and I love the art style. And... I'm old enough that I don't base my likes on the current "woke/cancel culture/pretend outrage" bullshit being pushed by some X users.
WienGirlJun 2, 2024 3:50 AM
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Imagine if they take their time and work on the anime quality to make it more enjoyable and beautiful smooth animation even though it might take an extra few months or years, But by doing that they could make the best adaptation and have a higher chance of receiving an overwhelming positive reviews with high ratings, Imagine that


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Jun 2, 2024 4:41 PM

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Imagine if they take their time and work on the anime quality to make it more enjoyable and beautiful smooth animation even though it might take an extra few months or years, But by doing that they could make the best adaptation and have a higher chance of receiving an overwhelming positive reviews with high ratings, Imagine that


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@yozora82 Yeah, but who would pay for that? It's obvious they are already doing their best just to get the episodes done, if it's true that they finish only 2 days before it has to air, I can't imagine how awful the conditions might be. And most likely they aren't even compensated enough for this.
Jun 2, 2024 6:40 PM

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@MineFord_gurme

Except half the information from that account on X is completely incorrect.

Hard to believe anything they say when they can't get half the details about the anime, the anime production or the number of people working on specific aspects of it correct.

Besides, I'm not "woke" enough to listen to some rando X account with a handful of followers, or to agree with cancel culture. All cancel culture does is destroy people's lives and, much of the time, they're people who had nothing to do with the supposed "crime" in the first place.

And personally, I love the anime.

Sure, it has some production issues, but the characters are sweet AF, the plot is fun, the music is cool and I love the art style. And... I'm old enough that I don't base my likes on the current "woke/cancel culture/pretend outrage" bullshit being pushed by some X users.
@WienGirl

Wow, so you don't take abuse seriously, if it's said by an X account that doesn't have a big follower base?

Animators condition in Japan is awful, and everyone knows it. If you're so sure about the statements being incorrect, then please, enlighten me as to why you believe it's incorrect, because otherwise, you're just blabbering shit without actual facts.

There are so many things wrong with this anime, and if you fail to see it, you're part of the problem. Sure, you can enjoy it as much as you want, and I'm kinda glad that you enjoy it, the poor animators really need all the praise possible because they're doing miracles in such hellish conditions.

But do me a favor and never ever doubt anyone, even if they're "not a trusted source" when the say that the staff condition for this anime is bad, for all you could know, it could be even worse than described, and you're attempting to gaslight people into thinking this is a "woke cancel culture" copy pasta with no actual source to back up your facts.

This is not a thing of cancel culture or being woke, animators with poor conditions on their work is a real issue and it needs to be tackled.
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Jun 3, 2024 5:26 AM
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@WienGirl

Wow, so you don't take abuse seriously, if it's said by an X account that doesn't have a big follower base?

Animators condition in Japan is awful, and everyone knows it. If you're so sure about the statements being incorrect, then please, enlighten me as to why you believe it's incorrect, because otherwise, you're just blabbering shit without actual facts.

There are so many things wrong with this anime, and if you fail to see it, you're part of the problem. Sure, you can enjoy it as much as you want, and I'm kinda glad that you enjoy it, the poor animators really need all the praise possible because they're doing miracles in such hellish conditions.

But do me a favor and never ever doubt anyone, even if they're "not a trusted source" when the say that the staff condition for this anime is bad, for all you could know, it could be even worse than described, and you're attempting to gaslight people into thinking this is a "woke cancel culture" copy pasta with no actual source to back up your facts.

This is not a thing of cancel culture or being woke, animators with poor conditions on their work is a real issue and it needs to be tackled.
@CrimsonWanderer

Here you go. Anitrendz explains it well enough. (So many mistakes in that X thread, I highly doubt the owner has spoken to anyone who works for any animation company involved with Whisper Me a Love Song as, if she/he had, they wouldn't be spouting bullshit).

https://anitrendz.net/news/2024/06/01/whisper-me-a-love-song-to-have-2-recaps-delaying-episode-9-to-june-22/

Of course, basic research on the anime production, the staff, the practice of outsourcing (happens with every anime studio) etc would have given you your answer about the many mistakes by the owner of that X account in about 30 seconds.

But you prefer to believe a rando X account based in Germany who writes in appalling English, and says they "spoke" to another rando who supposedly works on the anime, but who isn't named either.

An X account, by the way, run by someone who spends a fair amount of their time slamming anime, and anime studios, and then complaining about the owners of other FAR more successful X accounts who disagree with them, just to appear "smart". (Hint: They're not, as they don't seem to understand even the basics of anime production).

And, nope, never said conditions for animators in Japan aren't often terrible. They are. MAPPA for instance has an horrendous problem with it. But... I don't believe the owner of some low-level X account who has suddenly decided they're a "journalist".

And who now seems to be delighted garbage sites like CBR and Reddit have picked up the gossip they're pushing -- sites also populated by thousands of shit-stirring morons, I'll add.

And if you think the Japanese give a good goddamn about what westerners think about their anime, their animation studios or their working conditions, you apparently don't understand Japanese culture either.

Sure, Japan has a tiny minority of angry "wokesters" who are desperately trying to emulate western idiots determined to prove their supposed "moral superiority" regarding things like the anime industry, but they are largely thought of in Japan as "crazy" and, thus, ignored. Rightfully so.
Jun 3, 2024 5:58 AM

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@CrimsonWanderer

Here you go. Anitrendz explains it well enough. (So many mistakes in that X thread, I highly doubt the owner has spoken to anyone who works for any animation company involved with Whisper Me a Love Song as, if she/he had, they wouldn't be spouting bullshit).

https://anitrendz.net/news/2024/06/01/whisper-me-a-love-song-to-have-2-recaps-delaying-episode-9-to-june-22/

Of course, basic research on the anime production, the staff, the practice of outsourcing (happens with every anime studio) etc would have given you your answer about the many mistakes by the owner of that X account in about 30 seconds.

But you prefer to believe a rando X account based in Germany who writes in appalling English, and says they "spoke" to another rando who supposedly works on the anime, but who isn't named either.

An X account, by the way, run by someone who spends a fair amount of their time slamming anime, and anime studios, and then complaining about the owners of other FAR more successful X accounts who disagree with them, just to appear "smart". (Hint: They're not, as they don't seem to understand even the basics of anime production).

And, nope, never said conditions for animators in Japan aren't often terrible. They are. MAPPA for instance has an horrendous problem with it. But... I don't believe the owner of some low-level X account who has suddenly decided they're a "journalist".

And who now seems to be delighted garbage sites like CBR and Reddit have picked up the gossip they're pushing -- sites also populated by thousands of shit-stirring morons, I'll add.

And if you think the Japanese give a good goddamn about what westerners think about their anime, their animation studios or their working conditions, you apparently don't understand Japanese culture either.

Sure, Japan has a tiny minority of angry "wokesters" who are desperately trying to emulate western idiots determined to prove their supposed "moral superiority" regarding things like the anime industry, but they are largely thought of in Japan as "crazy" and, thus, ignored. Rightfully so.
@WienGirl

That's what leaks are for starters, you won't go out there revealing who shared this information among the members of the studio, don't you think that would be incredibly consequential for the staff member that revealed this?

"oh yeah, Tsukamoto-san told me this"

"News headline the next day: Tsukamoto-san fired from XXXX studio after leaking confidential information" (and go figure what else they may do)

And of course, a anime news site would probably be more "reliable", but at the same time I bet they still don't share the full picture of what's going on, the press will usually hide things.

WienGirl said:
And if you think the Japanese give a good goddamn about what westerners think about their anime, their animation studios or their working conditions, you apparently don't understand Japanese culture either.


What? Japanese people don't care about their working conditions? So that means that official japanese animators complaints about their working conditions on platforms like X are "made up" then?

You don't have to be an expert on someone's culture to see a very evident problem that you're belittling.

You're so delusional, you lost me. Keep living on that bubble, you're too close minded for this.

Don't reply any further, save me the Scarlet Rot.
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Jun 10, 2024 4:07 AM
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nah bro what are these powerpoint slide ahh transitions, i do after effects for a year and a half now and i was able to do better transitions that whatever that shit is on my 3rd month 💀
Jun 10, 2024 4:23 AM

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sounds typical of anime production mismanagement again

but weird he blames the outsourcing when most anime today cannot be made without outsourcing like dungeon meshi is known for its outsourcing

Outsourcing and various delegations of duties have become tools for TV anime to barely survive, but with its team’s clear vision and enviable contacts, Dungeon Meshi has been able to alternate between external production excellence and Trigger’s explosive in-house ambition. https://blog.sakugabooru.com/2024/02/28/smart-management-makes-room-for-ambitious-creators-dungeon-meshi-production-notes-04-08/

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