Unnecessary hatred

Jun 25, 2023 8:47 AM

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ErogakiPatches

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Khushal_v said:

ErogakiPatches said:

Do you believe that having homosexuals exist is being "woke"? Would you say the same for a show having straight people?

what does it have to do with homo ?this is going to be a long one so i may tell you first that my English isn't that good as it is my 3rd language so ignore grammatical problems

in political term wokism comes from side of liberalism mindset

basically according to this ideology we should just adapt everything new ( for example ai,robot etc ) without questioning it

for a real life incident when spinning Jenny was introduced back then it became a controversial thing,many even tried to destroy it as it took away job of many workers. people who used to totally agree with spinning Jenny to instantly taking over so work can be done faster are one on left side of frame,in contrast people who didn't wanted spinning Jenny to take over so that worker won't lose their job can be considered on right ( i personally am not promoting any side both are equally wrong and dumb at times )

so at that usami Arc people against the idea of attaching a machine part ( the right ) are presented as total assh*le whereas people who instantly followed the change (the left ) are presented as the kindest person you will ever meet ( including Dr usami )

this is my problem with show i am not saying to glorify right side but instead presenting it somewhat like in Vinland saga where both side are shown with their perks as well as flaws

First, I can't even understand what you are saying and second... You didn't answer my question. You don't like this anime because of the homosexuals in it and because of what was shown in the Usami arc? Did you actually watch the episode? Because you clearly didn't watch the part where Tokio, a girl, had intercourse with a boy so you already don't seem to be able to pay attention well.
Did you see the part in the episode of the Usami Arc where it was clearly shown that quite a few of the people in the "anti-machine" group only wanted to gain control of the building and the power there? They didn't actually care about the message they were spreading and only wanted to take control of the area. And the ones who were against it... Are still against it. The only thing that episode really said was that Usami didn't do anything wrong per say, as the people there wanted to be operated on. However, the leader of the "anti-machine" group didn't want to be operated on and thus she spoke out against them.
My guess is this is a thinly-veiled attempt at dismissing the fact that you don't even realize that Tokio is a girl.

And I'm not sure you even understand what "woke" means, so I'll explain it.
"Woke" is either being extremely liberal (This is a negative definition) or it simply means you are aware of issues within society, whether that be racial, social, cultural, etc. It doesn't actually mean a negative connotation despite what many people have said. You are against homosexuals, so it may be hard for you to understand but do try to.

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Jun 25, 2023 8:56 AM

#52

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ErogakiPatches said:

Khushal_v said:

ErogakiPatches said:

Khushal_v said:

ErogakiPatches said:

Khushal_v said:

bahimiron said:

Khushal_v said:

XiongYifan said:
People are trashing on the series just because of an uncomfortable and disgusting scene. They should know that things like this will happen in real life during an apocalypse. There are plenty of anime with murders yet people are ok with it but just because of 1 scene people are saying this as trash?

no way in real life because of apocalypse world will go woke

forced wokism + LGBTQ is reason i can't give it more than a 8 out of 10

The existence of LGBTQ persons is "forced wokism".

Christ, you people are so, so small.

you are probably the one with small brain

entire usami plot was wokeism i doubt you even understand what wokism is except of lgbtq

Do you believe that having homosexuals exist is being "woke"? Would you say the same for a show having straight people?

what does it have to do with homo ?this is going to be a long one so i may tell you first that my English isn't that good as it is my 3rd language so ignore grammatical problems

in political term wokism comes from side of liberalism mindset

basically according to this ideology we should just adapt everything new ( for example ai,robot etc ) without questioning it

for a real life incident when spinning Jenny was introduced back then it became a controversial thing,many even tried to destroy it as it took away job of many workers. people who used to totally agree with spinning Jenny to instantly taking over so work can be done faster are one on left side of frame,in contrast people who didn't wanted spinning Jenny to take over so that worker won't lose their job can be considered on right ( i personally am not promoting any side both are equally wrong and dumb at times )

so at that usami Arc people against the idea of attaching a machine part ( the right ) are presented as total assh*le whereas people who instantly followed the change (the left ) are presented as the kindest person you will ever meet ( including Dr usami )

this is my problem with show i am not saying to glorify right side but instead presenting it somewhat like in Vinland saga where both side are shown with their perks as well as flaws

First, I can't even understand what you are saying and second... You didn't answer my question. You don't like this anime because of the homosexuals in it and because of what was shown in the Usami arc? Did you actually watch the episode? Because you clearly didn't watch the part where Tokio, a girl, had intercourse with a boy so you already don't seem to be able to pay attention well.
Did you see the part in the episode of the Usami Arc where it was clearly shown that quite a few of the people in the "anti-machine" group only wanted to gain control of the building and the power there? They didn't actually care about the message they were spreading and only wanted to take control of the area. And the ones who were against it... Are still against it. The only thing that episode really said was that Usami didn't do anything wrong per say, as the people there wanted to be operated on. However, the leader of the "anti-machine" group didn't want to be operated on and thus she spoke out against them.
My guess is this is a thinly-veiled attempt at dismissing the fact that you don't even realize that Tokio is a girl.

And I'm not sure you even understand what "woke" means, so I'll explain it.
"Woke" is either being extremely liberal (This is a negative definition) or it simply means you are aware of issues within society, whether that be racial, social, cultural, etc. It doesn't actually mean a negative connotation despite what many people have said. You are against homosexuals, so it may be hard for you to understand but do try to.

people from anti manchine side are the one who wanted power not the one one who wanted machine that is what I meant by there presentation

Fix your grammar to make it readable and answer my other questions that you keep trying to dodge. You connected LGBTQ+ to "being woke" so I suggest you do not backpedal on this.

1. read my post above i edited it ( a little understandable now )

2. as i said English is my 3rd language so try to ingnore error

3. people are accepting change with any argument = left = liberal= wokism

totally accepting every kind of sexual preference without any questions= Lgbtq

now i think you can understand i tried write in as less word as i can as my English is weak so it may be a little misleading now 😓

Jun 25, 2023 11:00 AM

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XiongYifan said:
People are trashing on the series just because of an uncomfortable and disgusting scene. They should know that things like this will happen in real life during an apocalypse. There are plenty of anime with murders yet people are ok with it but just because of 1 scene people are saying this as trash?

I don't care that this scene exists, I care that it happened to this character. they ruined the main protagonist of the series. They made a fatal mistake

Jun 25, 2023 11:01 AM

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Sad 1 mistake is enough

Jun 25, 2023 1:56 PM

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melo514 said:
I’m not mad at the show it’s a good show but it just hurts to see what happened they were like family and he did that to a kid. I just hate what happened it made me throw up and I felt sick for a few days it may seem like I’m over exaggerating but the pain I felt was very real

Most people felt the same way including me. The thing is that this is enough for some to consider that the scene is irrelevant while others do believe it carries meaning and has an impact on the story.
I think the later are right and that because a scene is disgusting doesn't mean it should be disregarded without any second thought. Particularly in this story where as far as I can see, everything takes place for a reason.

Jun 25, 2023 4:46 PM

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I’m my humble opinion, and as someone who enjoyed the show overall, my issue with it is more how they handled it in the following episode. It’s such an absurdly layered scene, so to just kinda gloss over it as “something that happened, time to move on now.” Is WILDLY lazy. Robin was someone Kiruko deeply admired his whole life. He is trapped in his sisters body. Then the man who he’s admired his entire life, rapes him in *IN HIS SISTER’S BODY* over the course of two days! And just later that day, Kiruko is just like “Can’t be depressed forever!” And is all smiley again? I feel like it completely devalues how complex that situation is and makes light of how traumatizing rape is in general. Let alone that specifically complex instance of it. I hope it gets addressed more thoroughly in the following seasons. If not, that would be extremely disappointing IMO.

I also wished that we got to see Maru beat Robin’s ass more.

However aside from that huge miss in the ending, I really really really enjoyed this. One of my favorites this season.

Jun 27, 2023 12:51 AM

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people when disturbing scenes are actually disturbing

Jun 27, 2023 2:15 AM

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I want to hear a proper criticism of this show that doesn’t resort to oH nO how could the author add rape elements in a show that was intended for mature audiences

Jun 28, 2023 5:39 PM

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XiongYifan said:
People are trashing on the series just because of an uncomfortable and disgusting scene. They should know that things like this will happen in real life during an apocalypse. There are plenty of anime with murders yet people are ok with it but just because of 1 scene people are saying this as trash?

burgerstani subhumans are babies who cry at everything.

it is only burgerstan that completely eradicated their comics industry with censorship and restrictions unimaginable to even north korea and china,

there is a REASON why almost every comic nowdays in burgerstan is comprised of "capeshit" because they got triggered by every single other comic especially sci fi during the 50s all the way to the 80s. so they banned everything except superheros. even china didn't do censorship this badly. and don't get me started with music lmao, elvis presley was considered inappropriate for shaking his hips lmao,

can't wait for the ukraine war to escalate to nuclear exchanges so burgerstani states of obesity all get eradicated

Jun 28, 2023 9:40 PM

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POROW said:
True, it was abundantly clear to be poorly written by episode 5, dunno why everybody gave it so many chances...

I think the story amusing enough for people continue watching. The atmosphere good. Premise fine. But the characters and how the plot progresses is kinda ehh.

Jun 28, 2023 11:18 PM

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MrScamp said:

XiongYifan said:
People are trashing on the series just because of an uncomfortable and disgusting scene. They should know that things like this will happen in real life during an apocalypse. There are plenty of anime with murders yet people are ok with it but just because of 1 scene people are saying this as trash?

I don't care that this scene exists, I care that it happened to this character. they ruined the main protagonist of the series. They made a fatal mistake

It's a common issue in film/TV where a female being raped is used as "character development".

Once she was offered a bath I knew what was coming. But prior to that, I never expected Robin to almost immediately start raping her once she found him. That possibility never crossed my mind. I think that contributed to my shock.

HagePotPotatoJun 28, 2023 11:24 PM

Jun 29, 2023 12:24 AM

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MrScamp said:

XiongYifan said:
People are trashing on the series just because of an uncomfortable and disgusting scene. They should know that things like this will happen in real life during an apocalypse. There are plenty of anime with murders yet people are ok with it but just because of 1 scene people are saying this as trash?

I don't care that this scene exists, I care that it happened to this character. they ruined the main protagonist of the series. They made a fatal mistake

Ruined - how? She doesn't consider herself ruined. You seem to be strangely invested in her virginity.

Jun 29, 2023 8:00 AM

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POROW said:
True, it was abundantly clear to be poorly written by episode 5, dunno why everybody gave it so many chances...

So, you don't understand that other people may have a different opinion than you. It disqualifies you as a judge of quality of writing. If you don't get such a trivial concept there is a good chance that the plot is just too complex for you.

Jun 29, 2023 8:19 AM

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FreezePeach said:

MrScamp said:

I don't care that this scene exists, I care that it happened to this character. they ruined the main protagonist of the series. They made a fatal mistake

Ruined - how? She doesn't consider herself ruined. You seem to be strangely invested in her virginity.

I can only speak for myself. But by "ruined" I thought they meant a good, strong character was "weakened" after being unable (or unwilling?) to defend themselves.

I didn't view it as simplistic as "Virgin = good character, non-virgin = ruined character". But Idk how the original person meant it.

Also, raping females in tv/film as a form of "character/plot development" is just lazy writing. Obviously it's currently TBD how this affects either in future episodes/seasons. I thought it was a really fascinating show otherwise.

As for Kirito_online, they're just a weirdo.

Jun 29, 2023 8:53 AM

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HagePotPotato said:

FreezePeach said:

Ruined - how? She doesn't consider herself ruined. You seem to be strangely invested in her virginity.

I can only speak for myself. But by "ruined" I thought they meant a good, strong character was "weakened" after being unable (or unwilling?) to defend themselves.

I didn't view it as simplistic as "Virgin = good character, non-virgin = ruined character". But Idk how the original person meant it.

Also, raping females in tv/film as a form of "character/plot development" is just lazy writing. Obviously it's currently TBD how this affects either in future episodes/seasons. I thought it was a really fascinating show otherwise.

As for Kirito_online, they're just a weirdo.

If she was unwilling to defend it was her choice and nothing is ruined. I think the author messes with us. The whole thing is too weird. Robin turned from awesome to a criminal without any reason, Kiruko - from badass bodyguard to hapless victim. I think there is a reason for it. It's a mystery show.

Jun 29, 2023 6:19 PM

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Don't know why people decided they hate this anime over the (R) scan, it's not like the (R) scan was treated as a positive thing to begin with, the show clearly paint it as a very negative thing that Robin wasn't forgiven for it.

Jun 29, 2023 10:21 PM

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bukkorosu said:

Eternalthunder43 said:

oh💀
i didn't know the show being criticised for it💀

Yeah.. Like seriously. That scene, for me, added more depth to the show.

Idk about "depth". The whole thing just kind of came out of nowhere almost. There was no reason for him to be a pedo/rapist. Although, it kind of explains his sudden disappearances. The foreshadowing was very, very subtle.

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Aug 12, 2023 10:54 PM

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Dude... In the manga, every single waifu Maru meets is raped in one or the other way...
Mangaka just throwing his fetishes with no purpose for the story. It could be handled better, but he just love making lakeable characters being raped by some dudes.

The r**** thing itself serves no purpose just to shock people. Mangaka do it to the characters and it no longer matters.
It is a fetish thing manga author want to portray, that's all to it. Yes, real life sucks, sometimes that's what happens, sometimes even worse, but whenever I read some story, I don't want characters I like to suffer just to satisfy some fetish. In berserk, there was purpose and ongoing story for that bit, here... not really.

Everything is just sexualized and spiced with r**** fetish because mangaka is into NTR which he also draws a lot. That's all is to it.

It's his story to do whatever he wants, but all this thing is just unnecessary and done with no class.

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