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Feb 17, 2023 5:39 AM
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Ah, the harsh truth but seriously, it's about time Lavian found out. Also, it's about time other cameo characters made an appearance like Elliot. That photo for Class VII though ;_; 

 Lavian is also carrying a responsibility on her shoulders imo for her role in the show. She has to decide to who fight for after all. Seems this episode is setting up for much bigger events to come.
Stark700Feb 17, 2023 6:40 AM
Feb 17, 2023 7:15 AM
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So Marty was actually the sacrfice then. Its nice to see Elliot and Machius though and see how they were during this blank period in time. Never figured i'll see the group photo that they took at the end of CS1 here though. Nice cameo from Elise, Alfin and Muse. Never thought i'll say this but i prefer Lavu in her usual gear than her infil gear. Tragic as it is the death of Sara's dad really served to show her the kind of dangers that being a jaeger entails. A lesson that really served to allow her to really grow as a person later on. The truth of Lavi's gramps though was pretty powerful stuff. Overall an interesting ep that i feel was setting up for something big of which we can probaly guess what it will be. Really liked the insight into Sara's past brief brief as it was.
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Feb 17, 2023 7:18 AM
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Thought it will end on Elliot and Machias, Elise,Alfin and Musse is unexpected though, Also Sara's father death here is fully explained(I haven't done her CSIV final bonding Event yet so spare me). That Class VII photo... Yeah also that small nod in CS3 where Lechter shows up every time with a letter of order made me laugh a little. Enforcers here is only Bleublanc and Campanella along with Stahlritter and Gilbert (dude why are you here). So can I get in next episodes that Rean will infiltrate North Ambria with Sara and Altina tailing him?
Feb 17, 2023 8:52 AM
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Best boy Gilbert getting a cameo at the end, it was all worth it.
Feb 17, 2023 9:09 AM
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Oh hey, it's the dogeza boi Gilbert at the end.
Feb 17, 2023 10:10 AM
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wooo, there's much to talk about.

Everyone made it back to North Ambria. I guess Lechter and the rest of the intelligence division don't need them. Though what I don't understand is that this seems like it was planned by Jayna? Did she intend for Marty to get captured? Did she coordinate this with Lechter, or just expected him to get captured? I really wanna know what's her endgame here so I'm looking forward to them  explaining this.

I guess the anime is pretty much setting it in stone that not many knew about Rean's identity at this point. Makes you wonder how the noble from episode 5 knew. I guess he was just that well-connected. And the news are still not spreading like wildfire, I guess. The conversation between Rean and Elliot and Machias was nice.

I liked Lechter's conversation with Marty. He pretty much gave him the reality of the situation. Either become Empire territory the easy way, or the hard way. North Ambria will look like it wronged the empire. Burned an entire village tot he ground. And knowing what happens during the annexation, They might pin the blame of that on north ambria. Making even the people lose faith in their jaegers. Though I have to wonder what he will have Martyn do. He's just a soldier in the Northern Jaegers. It's not like he has a lot of influence, so I wonder what the goal here is.

The thing I hate the most about this episode is Jayna praising Glark by telling him about his past and his secret. God I hate this. Whenever an anime character says the word "Sasuga" to praise someone to their face, what usually follows is them graciously telling us, the audience, everything about that character. From their name, to their past, to their accomplishments. There's no end to the amount of exposition you can deliver with this shitty, unnatural as fuck dialogue. And if you wanna make it extra annoying, have a character who needs to hear those things to advance the plot be just within the area to hear all of it. Just like they do here. If I try to defend the show, I'd maybe say that Jayna intended for her to hear that. With nothing to back that up except the smile she had when she looked at the door, like "Yeah, she knew who was there" but this is me grasping at straws cause how the hell would she know that. And the fact that Lavi was just there doesn't seem to have been planned by Jayna either.

I know the animation isn't good, but the visual of Martin running while shooting with one hand and having a sword raised by the other is just too hilarious not to mention.

So, the child who shot Valestein must have been hired by Glark. I can't imagine how the hell a child would end up in the middle of the northern jaegers, and behind Valestein. He even passes by Glark while looking at him so it's pretty much confirmed. And I guess everyone who was there who could've seen him were in on it? There are other soldiers beside Glark, so none of them  spoke up? If we were to believe what Glark is saying, this was planned between him and Vlad, yet Vlad seems surprised by the child's presence. And wouldn't people, especialy those who backed Vlad, question why would he have Valestien killed? And what was Valestien's position? Did he want war or peace? I imagine he would want to have the men he lead be united, so why the fuck would you kill the one man who both sides stand behind? All 3 of you bastards are leading the northern jaegers, all 3 of you want them united, and you're telling me the best way to go about doing this is to backstab one of you(The tactical genius btw) and have the other take the fall so everyone would rally behind the third?  You can't fucking expect that the men standing behind Vlad to just be ok with backing the opposing faction's leader and goals just because their leader was a traitor. And surprise surprise, those men are now rallying behind Rogan. Guess they didn't see that coming while making this batshit insane plan. Speaking of Rogan, what the fuck, man? You knew all of this all this time and you didn't say a thing? If I was in that room I'd ask that question. And while Rogan doesn't understand why Vlad did what he did, he still calls him  a hero, so it seems like he still respects him, so why was he acting like a dick to Lavi in the first episode going "You're the granddaughter of a traitor lmao".
And all of this happened in August of 1198

Either I'm  missing something major and I'm making a fool of myself, which I'll gladly accept if that's the case. Or this anime is not making one tiny bit of sense.

One thing that I'm  confused about is Lavi's (and by extension, Vlad's) status. Is she the grandchild of a hero, or a traitor? Rogan says her grandfather abandoned North Ambria in the first episode, and Glark just explained how he spread the rumor that Vlad backstabbed Valestein, and he didn't deny it. Yet everyone still calls him a hero, and calls her the grandchild of a hero. And Martin says that Erebonia could use her lineage as a trump card in the previous episode. So, which one is it? Would people like her, or hate her, based on her lineage?

And I like that the advice Glark tells her about using her status before others use her was said by Iseria in the previous episode. I guess she has more wisdom than she lets on.
And right after that Lavi just agrees to help Glark because he says he wants to pass on Vlad's will to her. Maybe think about this a little bit more Lavi?

One thing I'll praise is one of Rogans lines in the last episode where he says "I see you're still good with shifting the responsibility as ever" which has more meaning now with the context of this episode. It's not much, but as I said before, I'm grasping at straws here.
Secret333Feb 17, 2023 10:14 AM
Feb 17, 2023 11:41 AM
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There are many familiar faces for the game players in this episode.
Feb 17, 2023 4:04 PM
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i think the story is going to be more serious path because with all lavi team is now intruducing they can make this story more to the plot and story is so going to answer almost all the question of what have left in cold steel

i just say that people who stopped short after watching the first few episodes doesn't understand how trail series work lol
Feb 17, 2023 6:29 PM
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Iseria eating while Tally doesn't have an appetite, silly boy, soldiers need to eat anytime

reporting the mission to Jaina, they wanted more of a reaction to what happened to losing their team member, and funnily enough Jaina asked them if they would prefer to be punished for leaving him behind lol sending a rescue party is obviously out of question, no reason to lose tons of people for one ... anyway, Iseria will join the supply division while the other 2 will pass their recent mission experience with the cadets

meanwhile Rean talking with his 2 friends, one has to write too many reports (even in his dreams), while the other one is in music school, and even people's voice sound like melody to him
lol the girls nearby talking about him, giving him random body types and colors , but the guys quickly changed topic, to Lechter, and to why Rean uses his mecha, to save people from suffering
that group photo, Rean holding the girl's hand is funny

Martin and Lechter in a cafe, with lots of people looking at them, Martin isn't enjoying it too much
tons of footage of random people, i remember some of them, like that noble guy who then started to help with the rocks in the train rail, and how their empire is a nice place, with good education and happy citizens, where even nobles and common people are starting to cooperate more
in the future, the north ambria region will belong to the empire, peacefully or not... so might as well not shed blood for it

next, Lavi training the younger soldiers, and her pants look good on her lols
the soldiers notice the difference in Lavi's attitude, and Iseria tease them lol

Tally challeged Lavi to a duel, in hopes of getting her help to continue the scouting mission
Tally went recklessly into the attack, making use of his big body and strengh, but after parrying a few attacks, Lavi dodged and sent him down, he was too worked up, and that's fatal in a duel, specially agains't a trainer like Lavi

on the way back, Lavi overheard Glark and Jaina talking about him someone's death
they noticed her, so she went in and asked for more details
that battle scene is confusing lol why are they fighting and then everyone stopped and started crying at the guy's death? what happened to the enemies?
the kid who actually did the shooting, but they didn't want to fight a kid...so one of them took the blame... not sure if that's a good thing or not lol
actually it was a good idea, to make the 2 opposing forces reunite into 1 leader, the other one had to leave... smart
well, Lavi is now Glark's right arm lol let's see how that works...
the empire wants north ambria to pay for the fire that the empire asked the jaegers to do, a low trick lol

some random phantom thieves and valkyries at the end, a last glance before the war
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Feb 17, 2023 6:32 PM

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i think the story is going to be more serious path because with all lavi team is now intruducing they can make this story more to the plot and story is so going to answer almost all the question of what have left in cold steel

i just say that people who stopped short after watching the first few episodes doesn't understand how trail series work lol
as someone who hasn't played the game, i barely give a damn about anything in this show other than Lavi and her legs :v so yeah, i'm not surprised people didn't keep watching if they didn't understand
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Feb 17, 2023 7:10 PM

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lots of progression during that episode, nice, the stakes continue to rise
Feb 19, 2023 8:00 PM
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Still not hyped. They're setting up CSIV against this anime cast. This anime cast will have the priority. Our old crew will look like clowns when this is over being beat by 15 year olds and amateurs.
Feb 20, 2023 10:23 PM
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Secret333 said:
wooo, there's much to talk about.

Everyone made it back to North Ambria. I guess Lechter and the rest of the intelligence division don't need them. Though what I don't understand is that this seems like it was planned by Jayna? Did she intend for Marty to get captured? Did she coordinate this with Lechter, or just expected him to get captured? I really wanna know what's her endgame here so I'm looking forward to them  explaining this.

I guess the anime is pretty much setting it in stone that not many knew about Rean's identity at this point. Makes you wonder how the noble from episode 5 knew. I guess he was just that well-connected. And the news are still not spreading like wildfire, I guess. The conversation between Rean and Elliot and Machias was nice.

I liked Lechter's conversation with Marty. He pretty much gave him the reality of the situation. Either become Empire territory the easy way, or the hard way. North Ambria will look like it wronged the empire. Burned an entire village tot he ground. And knowing what happens during the annexation, They might pin the blame of that on north ambria. Making even the people lose faith in their jaegers. Though I have to wonder what he will have Martyn do. He's just a soldier in the Northern Jaegers. It's not like he has a lot of influence, so I wonder what the goal here is.

The thing I hate the most about this episode is Jayna praising Glark by telling him about his past and his secret. God I hate this. Whenever an anime character says the word "Sasuga" to praise someone to their face, what usually follows is them graciously telling us, the audience, everything about that character. From their name, to their past, to their accomplishments. There's no end to the amount of exposition you can deliver with this shitty, unnatural as fuck dialogue. And if you wanna make it extra annoying, have a character who needs to hear those things to advance the plot be just within the area to hear all of it. Just like they do here. If I try to defend the show, I'd maybe say that Jayna intended for her to hear that. With nothing to back that up except the smile she had when she looked at the door, like "Yeah, she knew who was there" but this is me grasping at straws cause how the hell would she know that. And the fact that Lavi was just there doesn't seem to have been planned by Jayna either.

I know the animation isn't good, but the visual of Martin running while shooting with one hand and having a sword raised by the other is just too hilarious not to mention.

So, the child who shot Valestein must have been hired by Glark. I can't imagine how the hell a child would end up in the middle of the northern jaegers, and behind Valestein. He even passes by Glark while looking at him so it's pretty much confirmed. And I guess everyone who was there who could've seen him were in on it? There are other soldiers beside Glark, so none of them  spoke up? If we were to believe what Glark is saying, this was planned between him and Vlad, yet Vlad seems surprised by the child's presence. And wouldn't people, especialy those who backed Vlad, question why would he have Valestien killed? And what was Valestien's position? Did he want war or peace? I imagine he would want to have the men he lead be united, so why the fuck would you kill the one man who both sides stand behind? All 3 of you bastards are leading the northern jaegers, all 3 of you want them united, and you're telling me the best way to go about doing this is to backstab one of you(The tactical genius btw) and have the other take the fall so everyone would rally behind the third?  You can't fucking expect that the men standing behind Vlad to just be ok with backing the opposing faction's leader and goals just because their leader was a traitor. And surprise surprise, those men are now rallying behind Rogan. Guess they didn't see that coming while making this batshit insane plan. Speaking of Rogan, what the fuck, man? You knew all of this all this time and you didn't say a thing? If I was in that room I'd ask that question. And while Rogan doesn't understand why Vlad did what he did, he still calls him  a hero, so it seems like he still respects him, so why was he acting like a dick to Lavi in the first episode going "You're the granddaughter of a traitor lmao".
And all of this happened in August of 1198

Either I'm  missing something major and I'm making a fool of myself, which I'll gladly accept if that's the case. Or this anime is not making one tiny bit of sense.

One thing that I'm  confused about is Lavi's (and by extension, Vlad's) status. Is she the grandchild of a hero, or a traitor? Rogan says her grandfather abandoned North Ambria in the first episode, and Glark just explained how he spread the rumor that Vlad backstabbed Valestein, and he didn't deny it. Yet everyone still calls him a hero, and calls her the grandchild of a hero. And Martin says that Erebonia could use her lineage as a trump card in the previous episode. So, which one is it? Would people like her, or hate her, based on her lineage?

And I like that the advice Glark tells her about using her status before others use her was said by Iseria in the previous episode. I guess she has more wisdom than she lets on.
And right after that Lavi just agrees to help Glark because he says he wants to pass on Vlad's will to her. Maybe think about this a little bit more Lavi?

One thing I'll praise is one of Rogans lines in the last episode where he says "I see you're still good with shifting the responsibility as ever" which has more meaning now with the context of this episode. It's not much, but as I said before, I'm grasping at straws here.

Rogan expected Vlad to fight back and deny Glark's accusation (since he doesn't understand the whole Glark and Vlad unspoken deal of making Vlad the big bad to unite the Northern Jaeger factions). He respected him so much Rogan does not phantom why Vlad took the blame for it. Rogan probably get it that blaming Vlad did unite the Northen Jaeger so let it slide at a time but now Glark's seemingly stance of non aggression currently is triggering Rogan to act up.
Feb 20, 2023 10:29 PM
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Still not hyped. They're setting up CSIV against this anime cast. This anime cast will have the priority. Our old crew will look like clowns when this is over being beat by 15 year olds and amateurs.

CSIV???
The hell you talking about? Like if you played the games we all know, the Northern Jaegers lost...
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