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Aug 5, 2022 11:27 AM
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Let's all take some rest from all those non-stopping annoying csm posts and discuss something else.
I know graphics and animation in 86 ain't that good most of the time, especially you can see that on faces. I mean violet evergarden did the job way better, i'm never forgetting how well-traced those eyes were. But am i the only one who thought during those battle scenes that all mechas are actually so splendidly drawn, it gives me goosebumps. Like everytime we see some slow-motion, showing us juggernaut's blades, it looks so realistic, if you gave me just one frame asking what is this, i would have a hard time telling it apart from real-life movie scene.
Also the light-work on mechas, especially legion, is remarkable too, and i like the overall mecha movement animation. The blurriness and unstability of frames kinda make you feel like you're right there in the momentum.
I mean, its like two different brigades of people drawing fights and other events. What are your thoughts on this, and do you maybe know other animes with similar graphics quality?
Aug 5, 2022 11:33 AM
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Actually 86 animation/art/CGI quality is amazing overall.

You’re comparing it to Violet Evergarden.

Not sure if you’re aware - but Violet Evergarden is among the best animation/art quality OF ALL TIME.

Not exaggerating. It’s literally miles better than almost any other show, very very few shows can ever compare to that.
Aug 5, 2022 11:36 AM
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XalekMe said:
Let's all take some rest from all those non-stopping annoying csm posts and discuss something else.
I know graphics and animation in 86 ain't that good most of the time, especially you can see that on faces. I mean violet evergarden did the job way better, i'm never forgetting how well-traced those eyes were. But am i the only one who thought during those battle scenes that all mechas are actually so splendidly drawn, it gives me goosebumps. Like everytime we see some slow-motion, showing us juggernaut's blades, it looks so realistic, if you gave me just one frame asking what is this, i would have a hard time telling it apart from real-life movie scene.
Also the light-work on mechas, especially legion, is remarkable too, and i like the overall mecha movement animation. The blurriness and unstability of frames kinda make you feel like you're right there in the momentum.
I mean, its like two different brigades of people drawing fights and other events. What are your thoughts on this, and do you maybe know other animes with similar graphics quality?

I thought all the animation was amazing, of course not as good as violet but kyo ani is just built different, same with ufotable. But after those 2 I believe A 1 has the best and most consistent animation. From the fluidity to the colour pallet to the cgi, it’s all there in my opinion.
Aug 5, 2022 11:36 AM
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don’t think you can compare violet evergarden to just any anime. even 86 has spectacular quality but kyoto animation is just a step ahead of everyone else.

also the mechs are actually cgi so it makes sense that you found them to be more fluid though they did look out of place at some parts for me
Aug 5, 2022 11:36 AM
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86 is a peak fiction that's all I've to say.
Aug 5, 2022 11:40 AM
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Mq84jdk said:
Actually 86 animation/art/CGI quality is amazing overall.

You’re comparing it to Violet Evergarden.

Not sure if you’re aware - but Violet Evergarden is among the best animation/art quality OF ALL TIME.

Not exaggerating. It’s literally miles better than almost any other show, very very few shows can ever compare to that.

don't misunderstand, i do think it's pretty amazing, comparing it to violet was just showing one of the peaks, to where animation strives towards.
but it's the very a-1 pictures adapting the light novel, which is relatively popular, so you can really spend some budget on it in 2021 and not worry whether it will pay off
though apart from violet, i never watched something so good. i heard people stating fate has good graphics, dunno if its true
Aug 5, 2022 11:46 AM
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Lmao as a csm fan i agree the threads and posts are getting out of hand.
Animation in 86 was amazingly done. A-1 pictures did great in balancing the 3d CGI mechs and the legion with 2d backgrounds. One of the better jobs an anime did with blending the two. And if you haven't seen cour 2, I'd say the animation gets better there. When season 2 releases (hopefully soon, apparently it has been greenlit) the cgi should be just as smooth or even smoother, plus the story gets better too so I'm waiting on that.
As for similarly animated anime, I'd say AOT s1-3(odm gear scenes, colossal titan CGI sucked💀, mappa did a better job with cgi) and later seasons of initial d were pretty good with blending CGI with still background.
Aug 5, 2022 11:47 AM
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Ordinal_Richao said:
86 is a peak fiction that's all I've to say.

I see only fax🥶🙏
Aug 5, 2022 11:53 AM
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Da_mikasa_simp said:
Lmao as a csm fan i agree the threads and posts are getting out of hand.
Animation in 86 was amazingly done. A-1 pictures did great in balancing the 3d CGI mechs and the legion with 2d backgrounds. One of the better jobs an anime did with blending the two. And if you haven't seen cour 2, I'd say the animation gets better there. When season 2 releases (hopefully soon, apparently it has been greenlit) the cgi should be just as smooth or even smoother, plus the story gets better too so I'm waiting on that.
As for similarly animated anime, I'd say AOT s1-3(odm gear scenes, colossal titan CGI sucked💀, mappa did a better job with cgi) and later seasons of initial d were pretty good with blending CGI with still background.

oh, i had already seen part 2, just thought putting the question on the main page, where i first admired it would be better
second season of this gourmet shit is legit the thing i am most hyped about right now (on one side i am actually glad they do not shout the eighty six name everywhere like they do with csm, dunno if they did right before the release)
also aot first season's odm gear flight scenes created so hyped atmosphere for me too, and then i like see some titan 'cardboards' waving hands
gonna check out the initial d too, thanks
Aug 5, 2022 11:54 AM

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and gonna check out some kyoto and ufotable works too, since many mentioned them, appreciate that
Aug 5, 2022 11:54 AM

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u did a good job creating this post , the airing anime forums were really getting annoying..
so here's my interpretation with ur post
--- 86's animation and cgi was overall an 8.5 or smth near that while VEG animation was somewhere near 9.6 - 9.9.. but still 8.5 + for the animation is huge W and along with the storytelling and character depth 86 manages to keep itself head up with all of what it has got, really a great anime ...
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Aug 5, 2022 11:56 AM

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XalekMe said:
and gonna check out some kyoto and ufotable works too, since many mentioned them, appreciate that

yes plz do , while watching kyoto stuff , take closer look to facial expression and emotions , they are godly when it comes to those details , and sad that we lost 36 kyoani members on that arson attack, Rest in peace legends ♥︎
Aug 5, 2022 12:02 PM
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XalekMe said:
Da_mikasa_simp said:
Lmao as a csm fan i agree the threads and posts are getting out of hand.
Animation in 86 was amazingly done. A-1 pictures did great in balancing the 3d CGI mechs and the legion with 2d backgrounds. One of the better jobs an anime did with blending the two. And if you haven't seen cour 2, I'd say the animation gets better there. When season 2 releases (hopefully soon, apparently it has been greenlit) the cgi should be just as smooth or even smoother, plus the story gets better too so I'm waiting on that.
As for similarly animated anime, I'd say AOT s1-3(odm gear scenes, colossal titan CGI sucked💀, mappa did a better job with cgi) and later seasons of initial d were pretty good with blending CGI with still background.

oh, i had already seen part 2, just thought putting the question on the main page, where i first admired it would be better
second season of this gourmet shit is legit the thing i am most hyped about right now (on one side i am actually glad they do not shout the eighty six name everywhere like they do with csm, dunno if they did right before the release)
also aot first season's odm gear flight scenes created so hyped atmosphere for me too, and then i like see some titan 'cardboards' waving hands
gonna check out the initial d too, thanks

As an LN reader i can confirm that 86 is only going to get better. Seeing that you're a fellow 86 enjoyer, join the 86 club in the club section lol. it's chill. And initial d is dope with the eurobeat and everything, but it may seem repetitive sometimes, so it's valid that you MAY get bored watching it. I'm also chilling a bit before starting S5 of initial d. The eurobeat is stuck in my head😂
Aug 5, 2022 12:03 PM

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pri_arts_ said:
XalekMe said:
and gonna check out some kyoto and ufotable works too, since many mentioned them, appreciate that

yes plz do , while watching kyoto stuff , take closer look to facial expression and emotions , they are godly when it comes to those details , and sad that we lost 36 kyoani members on that arson attack, Rest in peace legends ♥︎

heeeeelll no, just read up on that incident. what the hell common animation drawers had to do with his works getting plagiatized, even if it is true. poor souls
Aug 5, 2022 12:04 PM

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XalekMe said:
pri_arts_ said:

yes plz do , while watching kyoto stuff , take closer look to facial expression and emotions , they are godly when it comes to those details , and sad that we lost 36 kyoani members on that arson attack, Rest in peace legends ♥︎

heeeeelll no, just read up on that incident. what the hell common animation drawers had to do with his works getting plagiatized, even if it is true. poor souls

People like that stupid exist everywhere, stay safe
Aug 5, 2022 12:18 PM

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As much as I like 86 and everything about it I think it's kinda unfair to compare it's animation quality with Violet Evergarden. That's a really too high bar to even consider as a standard.

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Aug 5, 2022 2:45 PM

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Chronon said:
As much as I like 86 and everything about it I think it's kinda unfair to compare it's animation quality with Violet Evergarden. That's a really too high bar to even consider as a standard.

Bro how to set a signature like the one u did here ? Any tutorial plz ? 🥺
Aug 5, 2022 7:52 PM
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XalekMe said:
Let's all take some rest from all those non-stopping annoying csm posts and discuss something else.
I know graphics and animation in 86 ain't that good most of the time, especially you can see that on faces. I mean violet evergarden did the job way better, i'm never forgetting how well-traced those eyes were. But am i the only one who thought during those battle scenes that all mechas are actually so splendidly drawn, it gives me goosebumps. Like everytime we see some slow-motion, showing us juggernaut's blades, it looks so realistic, if you gave me just one frame asking what is this, i would have a hard time telling it apart from real-life movie scene.
Also the light-work on mechas, especially legion, is remarkable too, and i like the overall mecha movement animation. The blurriness and unstability of frames kinda make you feel like you're right there in the momentum.
I mean, its like two different brigades of people drawing fights and other events. What are your thoughts on this, and do you maybe know other animes with similar graphics quality?

violet evergarden is probably a show on par with graphics with demon slayer or fate , but 86 has it's own strengths, that is it's story and emotions, which it attaches with the viewers, and yes the mecha are brilliantly drawn and it's quality of animation is way above average, just not the topmost but very good.
Aug 5, 2022 10:26 PM
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all i have to say is
the animation was great for me
Aug 6, 2022 9:02 AM

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yeap sometimes the 3d is shit and the sometimes the animation quality is lacking. but overall it works and mid graphics for mid show is kinda on par. honestly.
Aug 6, 2022 11:11 PM
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i actually think 86 is amazing visually and the show has orgazmic sounds especially of mechas and explosions
Aug 6, 2022 11:14 PM

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Bro, you are comparing it to Violet Evergarden of course it would look bad in result.

Anyway, I think the visual and animation of 86 can be considered as good.

Aug 11, 2022 11:56 AM
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I'll be honest, I absolutely hate CGI in anime especially when its a big part of the show, the uncanny valley is a bit much for me.

However I was surprised when the CGI in 86 didn't bother me, maybe it was the story, the characters or that banging ED (AVID) - I thoroughly enjoyed the show, and EP23 was one of the most satisfying endings to an anime I've seen in a long while - especially considering that the show just covers 3 out of the now 11? LN volumes.

Incidentally, or weirdly 86 was the second mech related anime I started based on first hearing the ED before picking the show up!

As FATE (kek) would have it, that other ED was also by Sawano Hiroyuki/ mizuki (aLIEz) for Aldnoah Zero, however while realistic-ish, I really didn't like the ending for that show sadly.

Id be the first to agree that shows like Fate UBW (haven't got to watch Heavens Feel yet) and Violet are totally on a different level though, but I don't think that's what 86 was going for nor what its major pull was.

I rarely even like sadder/angsty/realistic shows (prefer Isekai trash power fantasy and not ashamed to admit it) but I'm glad I was able to binge through the whole series and am now reading the light novel.

So it it from a CGI hater, 86 was hype, I cant even imagine how people watching weekly dealt with the delays.

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