Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
Apr 2, 2022 1:22 AM
#1

Offline
Dec 2011
60
Will this have Netflix propaganda?
Apr 3, 2022 3:26 AM
#2

Offline
Oct 2020
185
Not gonna happen.



Apr 3, 2022 3:46 AM
#3

Offline
Jun 2016
13381
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?
MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST
Apr 3, 2022 3:48 AM
#4

Offline
Dec 2011
60
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?


If thats your question then this post is not for you my friend...
Apr 3, 2022 3:53 AM
#5

Offline
Jun 2016
13381
KeyZero said:
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?


If thats your question then this post is not for you my friend...

Thanks for the non answer to my genuine question friend.
MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST
Apr 6, 2022 5:15 AM
#6
Offline
Jan 2012
1
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?

I believe the concern is trying to implant real world politics into what should be focused on simple entertainment. Netflix has a habit of trying to inject their opinions, which can be controversial to some, into their works.

Alternatively, they also try to reach a more broad audience by attempting to appeal to everyone instead of focusing on the demographic that became the fanbase in the first place. The idea is larger audience larger profits, but in practice it tends to just cause controversy and fights where the original fans feel burned and the new audience "doesn't get" why it was so popular.

I hope it isn't just another remake-o-rama trying to capitalize on nostalgia, but in the morally and imaginatively bankrupt corporate world we live in, that is most often what we tend to get.
Apr 9, 2022 7:36 PM
#7
Offline
Apr 2022
2
KeyZero said:
Will this have Netflix propaganda?

There is a general misconception about Netflix's influence over non-domestic productions, especially anime. Usually these shows are already in pipeline and netflix acquires rights to stream then.

This is different sometimes when they do stuff like Neo Yokio which is totally original piece of work.

So no there won't be forms of censorship or woke stuff in this thing (If there is its likely on English dub if anywhere).
Apr 10, 2022 9:26 AM
#8

Offline
Dec 2012
1007
SugiShogun said:
KeyZero said:
Will this have Netflix propaganda?

There is a general misconception about Netflix's influence over non-domestic productions, especially anime. Usually these shows are already in pipeline and netflix acquires rights to stream then.

This is different sometimes when they do stuff like Neo Yokio which is totally original piece of work.

So no there won't be forms of censorship or woke stuff in this thing (If there is its likely on English dub if anywhere).


Thats such a relief. This looks like it would be a fun watch.


Apr 11, 2022 12:50 AM
#9

Offline
Dec 2011
60
SugiShogun said:
KeyZero said:
Will this have Netflix propaganda?

There is a general misconception about Netflix's influence over non-domestic productions, especially anime. Usually these shows are already in pipeline and netflix acquires rights to stream then.

This is different sometimes when they do stuff like Neo Yokio which is totally original piece of work.

So no there won't be forms of censorship or woke stuff in this thing (If there is its likely on English dub if anywhere).


Yeah, my concern comes from examples like: Masters of the Universe: Revelation and the agenda that is always included in almost all Netflix's shows...

But if in this case the only "affected" part could be the english dub... No problems then XD
Apr 12, 2022 3:50 PM

Offline
Apr 2021
147
KeyZero said:
my concern comes from examples like: Masters of the Universe: Revelation and the agenda that is always included in almost all Netflix's shows...

This is an anime adaptation that was a couple of years in the works already at least. We have the source material and the trailer shows scenes from it. What even is the "agenda" anyway?
Apr 17, 2022 5:39 AM
Offline
Aug 2020
278
Bancheis said:
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?

I believe the concern is trying to implant real world politics into what should be focused on simple entertainment. Netflix has a habit of trying to inject their opinions, which can be controversial to some, into their works.

Alternatively, they also try to reach a more broad audience by attempting to appeal to everyone instead of focusing on the demographic that became the fanbase in the first place. The idea is larger audience larger profits, but in practice it tends to just cause controversy and fights where the original fans feel burned and the new audience "doesn't get" why it was so popular.

I hope it isn't just another remake-o-rama trying to capitalize on nostalgia, but in the morally and imaginatively bankrupt corporate world we live in, that is most often what we tend to get.


Bastard!! is already chock-full of real world politics, for better or worse...

Trying to reread the manga recently I do hope they change things to appeal to a broader audience. I forgot that there's lots of, "women shouldn't fight for their ideals and should be at home cooking", nonsense and oversexualised 14 year olds in the early parts of this series, and generally creepy stuff like DS's relationship to Nei... I'm hoping this adaptation skims over that stuff to get to the better parts of the series (especially since we've already got the 90s anime).
Apr 17, 2022 5:45 AM
Offline
Aug 2020
278
KeyZero said:
SugiShogun said:

There is a general misconception about Netflix's influence over non-domestic productions, especially anime. Usually these shows are already in pipeline and netflix acquires rights to stream then.

This is different sometimes when they do stuff like Neo Yokio which is totally original piece of work.

So no there won't be forms of censorship or woke stuff in this thing (If there is its likely on English dub if anywhere).


Yeah, my concern comes from examples like: Masters of the Universe: Revelation and the agenda that is always included in almost all Netflix's shows...

But if in this case the only "affected" part could be the english dub... No problems then XD


Masters of the Universe and Neo Yokio were American cartoons, so I don't think it'll apply. Netflix now knows that, for better or worse, anime sells for a reason, and has generally stopped trying to Americanise it (with B: The Beginning being the only recent exception I can think of... and anyone who's seen that show knows how it turned out).
Apr 20, 2022 1:26 AM

Offline
Nov 2016
30
after seeing jojo's adaptation, i love and belive in netflix
I am originally no one's ally. Therefore, I cannot possibly be a traitor.
Apr 20, 2022 1:26 AM

Offline
Nov 2016
30
after seeing jojo's adaptation, i love and belive in netflix
I am originally no one's ally. Therefore, I cannot possibly be a traitor.
Apr 21, 2022 8:39 AM
Offline
Apr 2022
2
NoblesseS said:
after seeing jojo's adaptation, i love and belive in netflix
They had nothing to do with that, once again they only serve as role of distributor
May 25, 2022 10:05 PM

Offline
Nov 2016
30
SugiShogun said:
NoblesseS said:
after seeing jojo's adaptation, i love and belive in netflix
They had nothing to do with that, once again they only serve as role of distributor
you are wrong they do, they have to allow things to run in their platform, and part 6 was kinda uncenssored so netflix did good for allowing it, altough i hate that they split the season into parts, again they had nothing to do with this too?
I am originally no one's ally. Therefore, I cannot possibly be a traitor.
May 29, 2022 1:44 AM
Offline
Apr 2014
312
Berserker_Pickle said:
Bancheis said:

I believe the concern is trying to implant real world politics into what should be focused on simple entertainment. Netflix has a habit of trying to inject their opinions, which can be controversial to some, into their works.

Alternatively, they also try to reach a more broad audience by attempting to appeal to everyone instead of focusing on the demographic that became the fanbase in the first place. The idea is larger audience larger profits, but in practice it tends to just cause controversy and fights where the original fans feel burned and the new audience "doesn't get" why it was so popular.

I hope it isn't just another remake-o-rama trying to capitalize on nostalgia, but in the morally and imaginatively bankrupt corporate world we live in, that is most often what we tend to get.


Bastard!! is already chock-full of real world politics, for better or worse...

Trying to reread the manga recently I do hope they change things to appeal to a broader audience. I forgot that there's lots of, "women shouldn't fight for their ideals and should be at home cooking", nonsense and oversexualised 14 year olds in the early parts of this series, and generally creepy stuff like DS's relationship to Nei... I'm hoping this adaptation skims over that stuff to get to the better parts of the series (especially since we've already got the 90s anime).


>lets take every story that has things we don't like and just alter it to make it have the same ideals as us!
Not every story in the world needs to be a reaffirmation of your beliefs.
May 31, 2022 12:16 PM
Offline
Aug 2020
278
nekotan7 said:
Berserker_Pickle said:


Bastard!! is already chock-full of real world politics, for better or worse...

Trying to reread the manga recently I do hope they change things to appeal to a broader audience. I forgot that there's lots of, "women shouldn't fight for their ideals and should be at home cooking", nonsense and oversexualised 14 year olds in the early parts of this series, and generally creepy stuff like DS's relationship to Nei... I'm hoping this adaptation skims over that stuff to get to the better parts of the series (especially since we've already got the 90s anime).


>lets take every story that has things we don't like and just alter it to make it have the same ideals as us!
Not every story in the world needs to be a reaffirmation of your beliefs.


The beliefs that I expressed in my comment were that sexism, grooming and the sexualisation of minors for the gratification of the audience are all bad things, so every story should reaffirm my beliefs. It's not that we can't discuss topics like sexism, grooming and sexualisation of minors in media, but they should only ever be framed as bad things.

You were right in the first half of your comment, every modern adaptation of a story should be altered to express my ideals.
Jun 3, 2022 8:15 PM
Offline
Apr 2014
312
Berserker_Pickle said:
nekotan7 said:


>lets take every story that has things we don't like and just alter it to make it have the same ideals as us!
Not every story in the world needs to be a reaffirmation of your beliefs.


The beliefs that I expressed in my comment were that sexism, grooming and the sexualisation of minors for the gratification of the audience are all bad things, so every story should reaffirm my beliefs. It's not that we can't discuss topics like sexism, grooming and sexualisation of minors in media, but they should only ever be framed as bad things.

You were right in the first half of your comment, every modern adaptation of a story should be altered to express my ideals.


jeeze you need saving
Jun 9, 2022 4:55 PM
Offline
Apr 2022
57
Should be fine I hope
Jun 18, 2022 11:33 AM
Offline
Jan 2021
98
people who complain about Netflix but don't know that netflix doesn't produce anime, they just license them.

I don't understand why the average anime fandom is so stupid?

they see woke, politics, agenda everywhere ... they are all paranoia.


Without streaming services, anime would still have remained in their niche market, one of the reasons for their recent popularity is services such as Netflix.
But always complaining.
Jun 18, 2022 11:53 AM

Offline
Apr 2016
18755
Raptor1986 said:
people who complain about Netflix but don't know that netflix doesn't produce anime, they just license them.

I don't understand why the average anime fandom is so stupid?

they see woke, politics, agenda everywhere ... they are all paranoia.


Without streaming services, anime would still have remained in their niche market, one of the reasons for their recent popularity is services such as Netflix.
But always complaining.

Can you consoom even more ?
Jun 19, 2022 7:47 PM

Offline
Mar 2014
927
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?



It means that cringe obssession american convervatives have with "MUH CURTUR WARS, NETFLIX/FUNI/Crunchy censor muh p0rn, EVERYTHING IS WOKE NOW, N0000". Blame Hero Hei and his clones for dumbing down those guys.

Which is nonsense, are Kakegurui ahegao faces political enough? Is a NETFLIX show as well...

At most there will actually be some form of censorship in the form of some lines of the eng dub. But only morons watch ameridubs over japvoicedsubs, those who do deserve to be screwed. Specially with such a good and stacked JP cast, like this one. Why would you go over secondary voice overs?

Berserker_Pickle said:
nekotan7 said:


>lets take every story that has things we don't like and just alter it to make it have the same ideals as us!
Not every story in the world needs to be a reaffirmation of your beliefs.


The beliefs that I expressed in my comment were that sexism, grooming and the sexualisation of minors for the gratification of the audience are all bad things,


You better drop the show already, it's NOT for you. No offense, I swear.

Dark Schneider groomed Arshes, and this act is portrayed as mostly a good thing. "Sexism" is blatand, and is part of the show identity to have busty women in skimpy clothing simping for DS in at least some level.

Dont recall anything with minors, aside from DS host being a underaged kid, but at most Yoko mouth-kisses him to awake DS...and that's it. Author is into adult women. Very into.

Also, complaining about it here on MAL, Reddit or on Twitter wont make NETFLIX change anything about the show, or even remove it from it's catalog. Again, just leave and have a nice day (supposing you're not a larping troll maskerading as tumblite, which seems to be the case in the end of your post "everything media must agree with me"). Yes, this show will keep existing. Pretend it does not, and it will make you happier, and saner. Same with us, as those discussions are inane and trainwrecks.
FGO NA Code: 482.072.599

(F2P thug life of savings...)

Ben-to! best nonsensical action anime. Ever.
Jun 25, 2022 11:41 PM

Offline
May 2014
26
Fabris said:
Theo1899 said:
What do you mean by netflix propaganda? Some dude trying to convince you to buy netflix subscriptions or something?



It means that cringe obssession american convervatives have with "MUH CURTUR WARS, NETFLIX/FUNI/Crunchy censor muh p0rn, EVERYTHING IS WOKE NOW, N0000". Blame Hero Hei and his clones for dumbing down those guys.

Which is nonsense, are Kakegurui ahegao faces political enough? Is a NETFLIX show as well...

At most there will actually be some form of censorship in the form of some lines of the eng dub. But only morons watch ameridubs over japvoicedsubs, those who do deserve to be screwed. Specially with such a good and stacked JP cast, like this one. Why would you go over secondary voice overs?

Oh no... the evil conservative are concerned about wokescolds shoehorning cringe bullshit into their entertainment. How dare they care about something, especially... tv shows. The most pressing of issues that we definitely have to fight them on. /s

Really though what makes you think anything about anime is immune from this shit anyway? To your last point, what happens when the english subs are just as bad as the dubs? They're already heading that way, so Idk what we're pretending like this isn't going to eventually be a problem for. You're either willfully ignorant to reality, or just in favor of all the weird bullshit translators will insert into anime subs (not just politics lol). This is without getting into the influence this stuff has had on manga already, which is obviously a spill over to anime.
SolaticJun 25, 2022 11:45 PM
Jun 26, 2022 9:33 AM

Offline
Mar 2014
927
Really though what makes you think anything about anime is immune from this shit anyway?


Netflix never censors anime.
Literally the ones who censor anime are chinese companies (specially if their companies have a hand in the production comitees, like Tencent, for example), and Japan very own government (who has been conservative for...literal decades of same party), who recently even tried to ban bikinis in their own cartoons.

To your last point, what happens when the english subs are just as bad as the dubs?



Watch fansubs instead of OG subs, in this case. They are usually better, anyways.


This is without getting into the influence this stuff has had on manga already, which is obviously a spill over to anime.



Educated question, just for curiosity: If Princess Knight was a seasonal, would you be calling it a "SJW show with a agenda"?
FGO NA Code: 482.072.599

(F2P thug life of savings...)

Ben-to! best nonsensical action anime. Ever.

More topics from this board

Poll: » Bastard!! Ankoku no Hakaishin (ONA) Episode 13 Discussion ( 1 2 )

AcceleratorAngel - Jun 30, 2022

63 by Legend1459 »»
Sep 22, 4:18 AM

Poll: » Bastard!! Ankoku no Hakaishin (ONA) Episode 10 Discussion

MegamiRem - Jul 1, 2022

10 by Ba-Cii10 »»
Jul 18, 5:04 PM

Poll: » Bastard!! Ankoku no Hakaishin (ONA) Episode 7 Discussion

Illyricus - Jun 30, 2022

18 by Ba-Cii10 »»
Jul 18, 3:14 AM

Poll: » Bastard!! Ankoku no Hakaishin (ONA) Episode 2 Discussion

Mapachecool999 - Jun 30, 2022

23 by Ba-Cii10 »»
Jul 17, 4:03 PM

Poll: » Bastard!! Ankoku no Hakaishin (ONA) Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 )

AcceleratorAngel - Jun 30, 2022

55 by Ba-Cii10 »»
Jul 17, 3:59 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login