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Mar 4, 2022 9:45 AM
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As a person that loves Bittersweet endings

And one of my favorite endings is Fate/Stay Night Fate Route ending

I think Nia's death was unneeded
Kamina's death was for Simon's character development
Kittan's death was to save everyone
Everyone else died for something

Meanwhile Nia's death was out of nowhere and didn't do anything like others
Her Death just made us unsatistified
Just take this "She is created by the Anti-Spiral" and done,there is no plot Hole or reason to kill Nia
Simon living as an alone old Man after all things he done did leaved bad taste in my mouth,I think that ending would way better if he started a family with Nia after all things happened
Mar 27, 2022 8:18 PM
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Nia's death was definitely uneeded. It just made Simon alone in the end. I would have preferred that either they both died or neither of them, because Simon didn't deserve tp be alone after all he did
Aug 3, 2022 3:59 PM
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Easy.... just pretend that ending doesn't exist, In my head everything after 17 minutes of the final episode is not Canon 🙃
Aug 4, 2022 3:54 AM
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just another day in my anime list...
Aug 4, 2022 3:56 AM
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Outplay_szn said:
Easy.... just pretend that ending doesn't exist, In my head everything after 17 minutes of the final episode is not Canon 🙃

people complaining over writting when they are just sad because they did not get the point
Aug 6, 2022 9:55 AM
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Aug 28, 2022 6:22 AM
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MightyMoon said:
As a person that loves Bittersweet endings

And one of my favorite endings is Fate/Stay Night Fate Route ending

I think Nia's death was unneeded
Kamina's death was for Simon's character development
Kittan's death was to save everyone
Everyone else died for something

Meanwhile Nia's death was out of nowhere and didn't do anything like others
Her Death just made us unsatistified
Just take this "She is created by the Anti-Spiral" and done,there is no plot Hole or reason to kill Nia
Simon living as an alone old Man after all things he done did leaved bad taste in my mouth,I think that ending would way better if he started a family with Nia after all things happened


agree 10000% With the power of Spiral, it should be able to reverse Nia dying.

The MC deserve a Happy Ending, It did not really make sense to make it a bitter sweet!

because of the ending its only a 9/10 for me instead of 11/10!
Aug 28, 2022 6:24 AM
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RjtheGreat14 said:
MightyMoon said:
As a person that loves Bittersweet endings

And one of my favorite endings is Fate/Stay Night Fate Route ending

I think Nia's death was unneeded
Kamina's death was for Simon's character development
Kittan's death was to save everyone
Everyone else died for something

Meanwhile Nia's death was out of nowhere and didn't do anything like others
Her Death just made us unsatistified
Just take this "She is created by the Anti-Spiral" and done,there is no plot Hole or reason to kill Nia
Simon living as an alone old Man after all things he done did leaved bad taste in my mouth,I think that ending would way better if he started a family with Nia after all things happened


agree 10000% With the power of Spiral, it should be able to reverse Nia dying.

The MC deserve a Happy Ending, It did not really make sense to make it a bitter sweet!

because of the ending its only a 9/10 for me instead of 11/10!
Oh I changed my view about ending

I love it now

I just didn't understood the message and what it tries to tell
Aug 28, 2022 6:28 AM
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well Nia is owned and made by the Anti-Spirals anyway so her fate is controlled by them

although Simon could have resurrected some of his friends like her and Kamina but he choose to not do so
Aug 28, 2022 6:49 AM

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deg said:
well Nia is owned and made by the Anti-Spirals anyway so her fate is controlled by them

although Simon could have resurrected some of his friends like her and Kamina but he choose to not do so


In the last episode it say that even thought Spiral power is powerful, its not godlike that it can ressurect the dead.

about Nia being controlled by the Anti-spiral, Since she is still alive after they defeat the anti spiral, The Power of Spiral Energy in theory can save her!
Aug 28, 2022 6:52 AM

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RjtheGreat14 said:
deg said:
well Nia is owned and made by the Anti-Spirals anyway so her fate is controlled by them

although Simon could have resurrected some of his friends like her and Kamina but he choose to not do so


In the last episode it say that even thought Spiral power is powerful, its not godlike that it can ressurect the dead.

about Nia being controlled by the Anti-spiral, Since she is still alive after they defeat the anti spiral, The Power of Spiral Energy in theory can save her!


is it? it was long ago that i have watch and rewatch it so i always thought the line goes Simon should not play God and the dead being resurrected will just get in the way of the new generation or the living so its implied he can resurrect them
Aug 28, 2022 4:51 PM

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deg said:
RjtheGreat14 said:


In the last episode it say that even thought Spiral power is powerful, its not godlike that it can ressurect the dead.

about Nia being controlled by the Anti-spiral, Since she is still alive after they defeat the anti spiral, The Power of Spiral Energy in theory can save her!


is it? it was long ago that i have watch and rewatch it so i always thought the line goes Simon should not play God and the dead being resurrected will just get in the way of the new generation or the living so its implied he can resurrect them


Im 80% sure that Simon spiral power is not god like and cannot ressurect the dead.
Aug 19, 2023 6:36 PM
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No, her death was unneeded. 

Yeah, Simon deserved better, his fate left a bad taste in my mouth too

What kind of hero abandons his friends in the name of some self righteous philosophy? 
Aug 20, 2023 12:35 PM

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RjtheGreat14 said:
deg said:


is it? it was long ago that i have watch and rewatch it so i always thought the line goes Simon should not play God and the dead being resurrected will just get in the way of the new generation or the living so its implied he can resurrect them


Im 80% sure that Simon spiral power is not god like and cannot ressurect the dead.
Simon directly says that he CAN resurrect nia but chooses not to because abusing spiral power is what led to the subjugation of humans in the first place. It shows his growth as a person.
Aug 20, 2023 5:54 PM
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oyabuntaro said:
RjtheGreat14 said:


Im 80% sure that Simon spiral power is not god like and cannot ressurect the dead.
Simon directly says that he CAN resurrect nia but chooses not to because abusing spiral power is what led to the subjugation of humans in the first place. It shows his growth as a person.
I don't think it would be abusing his spiral power. Besides, he could've just shattered the core drill to bring her back WITHOUT using his power in the first place.

Using your power isn't abusing your power. For example, when Uncle Ben told Peter Parker, "With great power comes great responsibility."

Spider Man kept his spider powers, and with it, he took it upon himself a burden of responsibility to help protect the city from Green Goblin. 

By neglecting to use his power for good, he was neglecting his responsibility. 
Aug 20, 2023 6:52 PM

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DoctorOddball said:
oyabuntaro said:
Simon directly says that he CAN resurrect nia but chooses not to because abusing spiral power is what led to the subjugation of humans in the first place. It shows his growth as a person.
I don't think it would be abusing his spiral power. Besides, he could've just shattered the core drill to bring her back WITHOUT using his power in the first place.

Using your power isn't abusing your power. For example, when Uncle Ben told Peter Parker, "With great power comes great responsibility."

Spider Man kept his spider powers, and with it, he took it upon himself a burden of responsibility to help protect the city from Green Goblin. 

By neglecting to use his power for good, he was neglecting his responsibility. 

Spiderman's powers don't directly cause the end of the universe. Besides, gurren lagann's "green goblin" stand in is already dead.
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oyabuntaro said:
DoctorOddball said:
I don't think it would be abusing his spiral power. Besides, he could've just shattered the core drill to bring her back WITHOUT using his power in the first place.

Using your power isn't abusing your power. For example, when Uncle Ben told Peter Parker, "With great power comes great responsibility."

Spider Man kept his spider powers, and with it, he took it upon himself a burden of responsibility to help protect the city from Green Goblin. 

By neglecting to use his power for good, he was neglecting his responsibility. 

Spiderman's powers don't directly cause the end of the universe. Besides, gurren lagann's "green goblin" stand in is already dead.


But like I said, with great power comes great responsibility. I believe Simon could use his spiral powers for good, so long as he uses them responsibly. Power is amoral. It’s all about how you use it that matters.
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oyabuntaro said:
RjtheGreat14 said:


Im 80% sure that Simon spiral power is not god like and cannot ressurect the dead.
Simon directly says that he CAN resurrect nia but chooses not to because abusing spiral power is what led to the subjugation of humans in the first place. It shows his growth as a person.
I don't think it would be abusing his spiral power. Besides, he could've just shattered the core drill to bring her back WITHOUT using his power in the first place.

Using your power isn't abusing your power. For example, when Uncle Ben told Peter Parker, "With great power comes great responsibility."

Spider Man kept his spider powers, and with it, he took it upon himself a burden of responsibility to help protect the city from Green Goblin. 

By neglecting to use his power for good, he was neglecting his responsibility. 
@DoctorOddball Simon didn't neglect his responsibility, he passed the torch to the people coming after him. He drilled the way forward, the next generation had to walk it.
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@DoctorOddball Simon didn't neglect his responsibility, he passed the torch to the people coming after him. He drilled the way forward, the next generation had to walk it.
@Perrito But who will take care of the next generation without a leader? Who will help them grow?
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@Perrito But who will take care of the next generation without a leader? Who will help them grow?
@DoctorOddball
They showed humanity's referrents after the timeskip, and with good reason. The fate of the universe couldn't be left to one person alone.
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@Perrito But who will take care of the next generation without a leader? Who will help them grow?
@DoctorOddball He's more of a hero figure than a leader and understands that war time leaders don't necessarily make good peace time ones.
Returning to his origin of just being "Simon the Digger" completes his hero journey.

The next generation should choose it's own leaders.
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@DoctorOddball He's more of a hero figure than a leader and understands that war time leaders don't necessarily make good peace time ones.
Returning to his origin of just being "Simon the Digger" completes his hero journey.

The next generation should choose it's own leaders.
@watsym There's a more deeper and hurtful, personal reason why I believe Nia's death was needless.

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