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Aug 26, 2021 11:52 AM
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Since 2018, the projects JC Staff took were definitely quantity over quality, and many of them didn’t do very well due to animation, pacing, etc. However, I think that since 2020 their projects have been improving in quality, as things like Railgun T and Danmachi III did far better than projects in previous years, like Index III, DAL III, OPM, etc. This year, too, has been showing improvement for JC with shows like Combatants Will Be Dispatched, Realist Hero, and Edens Zero. Do you agree that JC Staff is slowly returning to good anime, and if you don’t, why not?
Aug 26, 2021 12:06 PM
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gasman66 said:
Since 2018, the projects JC Staff took were definitely quantity over quality, and many of them didn’t do very well due to animation, pacing, etc. However, I think that since 2020 their projects have been improving in quality, as things like Railgun T and Danmachi III did far better than projects in previous years, like Index III, DAL III, OPM, etc. This year, too, has been showing improvement for JC with shows like Combatants Will Be Dispatched, Realist Hero, and Edens Zero. Do you agree that JC Staff is slowly returning to good anime, and if you don’t, why not?

It's all depends on the studio budget and about the author also
Aug 26, 2021 12:32 PM
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I think this studio still on its way down..
Edens Zero was a disappointment and so was gokushufudo in all terms especially the slide show animation both of them have .
I haven't watched their other productions in 2021 but from the low rating I can simply tell that they didn't do a good job in : blue reflection ray - wixoss diva ...
J.C.Staff has a huge history and I don't know Why did they turn towards cheap shows in terms of content and production !
Aug 26, 2021 12:47 PM
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khalil04uzumaki said:
I think this studio still on its way down..
Edens Zero was a disappointment and so was gokushufudo in all terms especially the slide show animation both of them have .
I haven't watched their other productions in 2021 but from the low rating I can simply tell that they didn't do a good job in : blue reflection ray - wixoss diva ...
J.C.Staff has a huge history and I don't know Why did they turn towards cheap shows in terms of content and production !
what makes you think Edens Zero is a disappointment? The show might just not be for you but it doesn’t mean it’s a disappointment
Aug 26, 2021 12:55 PM
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khalil04uzumaki said:
I think this studio still on its way down..
Edens Zero was a disappointment and so was gokushufudo in all terms especially the slide show animation both of them have .
I haven't watched their other productions in 2021 but from the low rating I can simply tell that they didn't do a good job in : blue reflection ray - wixoss diva ...
J.C.Staff has a huge history and I don't know Why did they turn towards cheap shows in terms of content and production !

Gokushufudo was supposed to be in the slideshow format as that is the way the author wanted it. It’s called a motion comic/manga. The problem was that Netflix advertised it as an anime instead of what it was really going to be which is a motion comic. So in an a sense, they adapted it perfectly in terms of what was demanded of them.
Aug 26, 2021 1:04 PM
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Gerbotik said:
khalil04uzumaki said:
I think this studio still on its way down..
Edens Zero was a disappointment and so was gokushufudo in all terms especially the slide show animation both of them have .
I haven't watched their other productions in 2021 but from the low rating I can simply tell that they didn't do a good job in : blue reflection ray - wixoss diva ...
J.C.Staff has a huge history and I don't know Why did they turn towards cheap shows in terms of content and production !

Gokushufudo was supposed to be in the slideshow format as that is the way the author wanted it. It’s called a motion comic/manga. The problem was that Netflix advertised it as an anime instead of what it was really going to be which is a motion comic. So in an a sense, they adapted it perfectly in terms of what was demanded of them.

Okay thanks I didn't know that
But why the slide show animation in specific tho
Wouldn't the people just read the manga instead ?
Aug 26, 2021 1:08 PM
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khalil04uzumaki said:
Gerbotik said:

Gokushufudo was supposed to be in the slideshow format as that is the way the author wanted it. It’s called a motion comic/manga. The problem was that Netflix advertised it as an anime instead of what it was really going to be which is a motion comic. So in an a sense, they adapted it perfectly in terms of what was demanded of them.

Okay thanks I didn't know that
But why the slide show animation in specific tho
Wouldn't the people just read the manga instead ?
In my opinion, getting to see the characters coloured as well hearing the voice actors and the jokes being executed is a decent reason to watch it. I’m pretty sure it was well received in Japan as well which to me tells me that people would still watch it. The episodes also aren’t too long as well so it’s not a waste of time.
Aug 26, 2021 1:30 PM
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alfie_boss123 said:
khalil04uzumaki said:
I think this studio still on its way down..
Edens Zero was a disappointment and so was gokushufudo in all terms especially the slide show animation both of them have .
I haven't watched their other productions in 2021 but from the low rating I can simply tell that they didn't do a good job in : blue reflection ray - wixoss diva ...
J.C.Staff has a huge history and I don't know Why did they turn towards cheap shows in terms of content and production !
what makes you think Edens Zero is a disappointment? The show might just not be for you but it doesn’t mean it’s a disappointment

When it comes to shounen , I personally focus on the logical connection of events with the world building in the series, which is awful in Edens Zero besides the weak and pathetic past of the main character that we're supposed to sympathize with ..
And I think you know that at the present time the animation is a key role for the people to start watching any anime , and in the first 8 episodes of Edens Zero it was somewhat good, but the quality began to decline after that until we reached Episode 14, which I personally consider one of the worst episodes in terms of animation I have seen in my life!
Aug 26, 2021 1:37 PM
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khalil04uzumaki said:
alfie_boss123 said:
what makes you think Edens Zero is a disappointment? The show might just not be for you but it doesn’t mean it’s a disappointment

When it comes to shounen , I personally focus on the logical connection of events with the world building in the series, which is awful in Edens Zero besides the weak and pathetic past of the main character that we're supposed to sympathize with ..
And I think you know that at the present time the animation is a key role for the people to start watching any anime , and in the first 8 episodes of Edens Zero it was somewhat good, but the quality began to decline after that until we reached Episode 14, which I personally consider one of the worst episodes in terms of animation I have seen in my life!
I didn’t see a problem with any of your points tbh, the animation is good imo
Aug 26, 2021 1:39 PM
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I take it you're not watching Blue Reflection Ray...
Aug 26, 2021 1:43 PM
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alfie_boss123 said:
khalil04uzumaki said:

When it comes to shounen , I personally focus on the logical connection of events with the world building in the series, which is awful in Edens Zero besides the weak and pathetic past of the main character that we're supposed to sympathize with ..
And I think you know that at the present time the animation is a key role for the people to start watching any anime , and in the first 8 episodes of Edens Zero it was somewhat good, but the quality began to decline after that until we reached Episode 14, which I personally consider one of the worst episodes in terms of animation I have seen in my life!
I didn’t see a problem with any of your points tbh, the animation is good imo

It's all a matter of opinions after all which I respect ..
And as you said it's probably not for me , so enjoy it
Aug 26, 2021 1:49 PM
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Fail_Man_X said:
I take it you're not watching Blue Reflection Ray...

As I said, they’re starting to come back
And I was mostly talking about the quality of their adaptations while BRR is an original
Aug 26, 2021 2:19 PM
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Actually in 2019 jc staff wasn't bad they made some good anime like saiki k,high score girl, machikado mazoku and konosuba movie
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Aug 26, 2021 3:07 PM

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gasman66 said:
Since 2018, the projects JC Staff took were definitely quantity over quality, and many of them didn’t do very well due to animation, pacing, etc. However, I think that since 2020 their projects have been improving in quality, as things like Railgun T and Danmachi III did far better than projects in previous years, like Index III, DAL III, OPM, etc. This year, too, has been showing improvement for JC with shows like Combatants Will Be Dispatched, Realist Hero, and Edens Zero. Do you agree that JC Staff is slowly returning to good anime, and if you don’t, why not?

definitely true
with this pace JC.Staff could be one of top studios,because of the successful shows its budget growing so shows getting more and better in quality
Aug 26, 2021 4:43 PM
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No, because it was never an "age". Sometimes they do well, but most of the time they don't.

You say "since 2018", but it's been this way for a lot longer than that.
Aug 28, 2021 12:19 PM
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the thing about the shows made by any anime studio in general is that they all have different staff working on them, writers, directors, producers, production committees, the publishers etc, and the quality of the show VERY much depends on those aspects instead of the studio as a whole, every single studio has their fair share of not so great shows and great shows, JC Staff included.
Bad production cycles lead to inconsistent shows,
then theres staff selection, some are definitely more experienced than the others.
I was, am and will be a firm believer that JC Staff is overhated, people love to jump on the "its trash...studio trash" bandwagon more often than not instead of actually researching as to why it turned out the way it did.
so I implore all of you to actually go and dig thru the credits the behind the scenes stuff to actually learn what goes in during the production of a TV Anime and why some of the shows turn out to be better than the others.
Aug 28, 2021 12:26 PM
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AlMiraj said:
gasman66 said:
Since 2018, the projects JC Staff took were definitely quantity over quality, and many of them didn’t do very well due to animation, pacing, etc. However, I think that since 2020 their projects have been improving in quality, as things like Railgun T and Danmachi III did far better than projects in previous years, like Index III, DAL III, OPM, etc. This year, too, has been showing improvement for JC with shows like Combatants Will Be Dispatched, Realist Hero, and Edens Zero. Do you agree that JC Staff is slowly returning to good anime, and if you don’t, why not?

definitely true
with this pace JC.Staff could be one of top studios,because of the successful shows its budget growing so shows getting more and better in quality


it really doesnt work that way, the budget is fixed by the production committee of the project, and the studio may or may not have a say on that matter, most of the times, unless its an original, the studio never gets a say in the matter, the budget, the episode count are all fixed by the committee which is then passed on to the director and the animation production staff members who execute it as best as possible.
then theres the whole scheduling thing, deadlines, the industry being a literal pit of slavery and whatnot. but thats after the whole production committee shenanigans
Aug 28, 2021 12:27 PM

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JC Staff has always been trash. They just sometimes accidentally make something decent.
Aug 28, 2021 12:36 PM
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CondemneDio said:
JC Staff has always been trash. They just sometimes accidentally make something decent.


sure mate, its a free world and we are allowed to have our own opinions. but saying a whole studio is trash because you dont happen to like the shows they have under their belt is kinda wrong, but I digress since its 2021 and nuance isnt a thing anymore.
Aug 28, 2021 12:41 PM

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DoctorKockatoo said:
CondemneDio said:
JC Staff has always been trash. They just sometimes accidentally make something decent.


sure mate, its a free world and we are allowed to have our own opinions. but saying a whole studio is trash because you dont happen to like the shows they have under their belt is kinda wrong, but I digress since its 2021 and nuance isnt a thing anymore.

Yes, how dare I have an opinion. How rude and silly of me.
Aug 28, 2021 1:04 PM
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CondemneDio said:
DoctorKockatoo said:


sure mate, its a free world and we are allowed to have our own opinions. but saying a whole studio is trash because you dont happen to like the shows they have under their belt is kinda wrong, but I digress since its 2021 and nuance isnt a thing anymore.

Yes, how dare I have an opinion. How rude and silly of me.


didnt really say anything about having opinions, all I did say was there is no nuance in discussions anymore and the phrase "its my opinion" has become the new "the customer is always right" especially on the internet.
but yea you do you........and I'll do me, peace.
Aug 28, 2021 1:16 PM

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No. This anime is still poorly produced. JC Staff is far from their golden age.
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!

Aug 28, 2021 1:39 PM

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No. And this show is all the proof you need. It has all the same signs of JC Staff not trying. Combatants Will Be Dispatched has been there only good show in years and that's on the strength of the source material and just cribbing Deen's Konosuba style.
Aug 28, 2021 3:13 PM

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This show isnt even half decent, I spent last week watching an episode about mud slides. This week we get some random hair cutting to show resolve. JC Staff have some way to got to be back to thier best.
Aug 28, 2021 5:48 PM

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khalil04uzumaki said:

but the quality began to decline after that until we reached Episode 14, which I personally consider one of the worst episodes in terms of animation I have seen in my life!


Sorry but if you think that then I think you didn't watched enough anime, like Gibiate or Tamayomi even Arifureta have much much worse animation, especially Gibiate.

Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.200/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.116/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
Aug 29, 2021 12:11 AM
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Nieznajomy43 said:
khalil04uzumaki said:

but the quality began to decline after that until we reached Episode 14, which I personally consider one of the worst episodes in terms of animation I have seen in my life!


Sorry but if you think that then I think you didn't watched enough anime, like Gibiate or Tamayomi even Arifureta have much much worse animation, especially Gibiate.


I have watched enough animes to say that..
And trust me I don't have to watch another animes with bad animation, it doesn't matter when all of the ones you suggested are heavily hated by the community for the bad adaptation besides the bad animation so it doesn't make any sense .
What matters is how you define the"bad animation" term , if you don't want to admit that Edens Zero have it because you love the show then it's fine no one's forcing you to hate it , but it won't be the logical fact here.
Aug 29, 2021 2:49 PM

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khalil04uzumaki said:
Nieznajomy43 said:


Sorry but if you think that then I think you didn't watched enough anime, like Gibiate or Tamayomi even Arifureta have much much worse animation, especially Gibiate.


I have watched enough animes to say that..
And trust me I don't have to watch another animes with bad animation, it doesn't matter when all of the ones you suggested are heavily hated by the community for the bad adaptation besides the bad animation so it doesn't make any sense .
What matters is how you define the"bad animation" term , if you don't want to admit that Edens Zero have it because you love the show then it's fine no one's forcing you to hate it , but it won't be the logical fact here.


Did I said that I love EZ anime? I personally think this anime is overall average adaptation with average animation, I saw series with much better and much worse animation.

And I'm not saying about the "level of adaptation" or how much people hate it, I'm just saying that shows like Gibiate have far worse animation than EZ would ever have.
Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.111/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.200/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.116/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.21/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.84/? - biweekly)
- Monochrome Days (Ch.13/? - biweekly)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
Aug 29, 2021 8:07 PM
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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
No. And this show is all the proof you need. It has all the same signs of JC Staff not trying. Combatants Will Be Dispatched has been there only good show in years and that's on the strength of the source material and just cribbing Deen's Konosuba style.

I'm sorry, but do you know who wrote Combatants?

Natsumi Akatsuki, author of Konosuba.
Aug 30, 2021 12:16 AM

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It’s a step in the right direction cuz this show is decent and nothing more but I wouldn’t say the dark age is over because it’s not that good still


Aug 30, 2021 7:25 AM

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gasman66 said:
Red_Ranger_Wien said:
No. And this show is all the proof you need. It has all the same signs of JC Staff not trying. Combatants Will Be Dispatched has been there only good show in years and that's on the strength of the source material and just cribbing Deen's Konosuba style.

I'm sorry, but do you know who wrote Combatants?

Natsumi Akatsuki, author of Konosuba.

Yes, I do know that. Do you have a point?
Aug 30, 2021 8:00 AM

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I don't think so at all.

JC Staff has always been a very average studio producing very average to poor anime. A few have been extremely good but they are anomalies within the huge amount of shows they have produced. This studio is definitely the kind that values profits over all else, hence quantity over quality.

Even with this anime, I don't think its even half decent simply because of the horrific timeline of the plot JC Staff has chosen to adapt.

I mean, a full episode of making food? Am I watching Food Wars?
A full episode of a landslide? Just leave it for 5-6 minutes how have they stretched it to a full episode now?
A full episode of building resolve? Again, this can simply be done within 5 minutes, there is no need to elongate such trivial stuff.

We are already so far into the show yet no notable changes have taken place in the kingdom particularly with the exception of some new food being produced. We haven't even seen any new policies to help the economy and food shortages come into play.

I'm rather disappointed not by the animation or anything, but just JC Staff screwing up with the timeline of the whole story. Things don't need to be this slow.
Aug 30, 2021 8:38 AM
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Red_Ranger_Wien said:
gasman66 said:

I'm sorry, but do you know who wrote Combatants?

Natsumi Akatsuki, author of Konosuba.

Yes, I do know that. Do you have a point?

So JC didn’t copy Studio Deen, the author just used the same style.
Aug 30, 2021 5:42 PM

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gasman66 said:
Red_Ranger_Wien said:

Yes, I do know that. Do you have a point?

So JC didn’t copy Studio Deen, the author just used the same style.

JC clearly cribbed a lot of tone and animation style choices Deen made for Konosuba. There's nothing wrong with that but I don't think it's worth praising them for following the blueprint someone else laid out.
Aug 30, 2021 10:24 PM

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The animation and pacing of Realist Hero is average at best imo, and I think another studio (like say A1 Pictures) would’ve done a much better job.

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