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May 19, 2021 10:56 AM
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Remember Mary from Youjo Senki? This is her now, another annoying girl with crazy plot armor. It just doesn't even makes any sense, just look at her in eps 5
and her personality is literaly almost the same like Mary
May 19, 2021 11:05 AM
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But you can't deny she is hot
May 19, 2021 11:30 AM
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RebelPandaSFan said:
But you can't deny she is hot
neh, most basic looking female character
May 19, 2021 12:45 PM
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Probably instead of dying a quick, easy death, she'll suffer a lot before dying slowly and painfully. Because I'd love that.
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May 19, 2021 3:31 PM
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neh, most basic looking female character

contrarian take, ngl
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May 19, 2021 4:01 PM
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RebelPandaSFan said:
But you can't deny she is hot


Especially after her face receives a makeover.


Though I have no clue how both of her eyes are completely intact.

May 19, 2021 11:47 PM
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I agree about this just a bit if I’m looking at it through the anime only stand point. I’ve read the manga so I know why she has plot armor but I promise you won’t be disappointed when the anime gets to that point.
May 20, 2021 12:04 AM
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RebelPandaSFan said:
But you can't deny she is hot

She is hot BUT SHE KILLED MARCH.
May 20, 2021 4:09 AM
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Honestly it isn't even as bad as some other shows
May 20, 2021 5:22 AM

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AndreCraft_012 said:
Remember Mary from Youjo Senki? This is her now, another annoying girl with crazy plot armor. It just doesn't even makes any sense, just look at her in eps 5
and her personality is literaly almost the same like Mary

even if this girl have plot armor, mary don't have it. Existence X helps mary so she won't die easily, it's not plot armor if its perfectly reasonable, i mean she have a god on her side, anything god being able to do is reasonable, even if mary die, Existence X will revive her anyways, that's not plot armor.
this is the same as saying a character being immortal means it must have plot armor
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May 20, 2021 5:45 AM
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LevelUp37 said:
RebelPandaSFan said:
But you can't deny she is hot

She is hot BUT SHE KILLED MARCH.
that's the best part. I found march annoying af.
May 20, 2021 8:13 AM
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Hayase should die already that damn brat
May 20, 2021 9:06 AM
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i definitely hate her ;-;
May 20, 2021 11:04 AM
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What? Her personality is nothing like Mary Sue's. Just because you find them both annoying doesn't make them identical.

Mary is revenge-driven, angry, and self-righteous.
Hayase is cold and self-serving, though

Nothing alike.
May 20, 2021 5:42 PM
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Heh... you call this plot armor ? Well , wait until you see Hayase's reaaaall plot armor 🤦🏻‍♂️ most hateful character to me.
May 20, 2021 6:41 PM

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IsekaiSlayer said:
You should've made this a poll on whether it bothers you or not

I'll make it later, I'm too lazy to make it before
May 20, 2021 6:44 PM

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Kiyotaka696 said:
AndreCraft_012 said:
Remember Mary from Youjo Senki? This is her now, another annoying girl with crazy plot armor. It just doesn't even makes any sense, just look at her in eps 5
and her personality is literaly almost the same like Mary

even if this girl have plot armor, mary don't have it. Existence X helps mary so she won't die easily, it's not plot armor if its perfectly reasonable, i mean she have a god on her side, anything god being able to do is reasonable, even if mary die, Existence X will revive her anyways, that's not plot armor.
this is the same as saying a character being immortal means it must have plot armor

Wait a minute, Mary has god on her side that will revive her? Wtf is that
May 20, 2021 6:46 PM

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TinyPrawnie said:
What? Her personality is nothing like Mary Sue's. Just because you find them both annoying doesn't make them identical.

Mary is revenge-driven, angry, and self-righteous.
Hayase is cold and self-serving, though

Nothing alike.

I'm only giving some "similar" example, not the motive but the character itself. I know both of them are totally different, but both of them are a crazy girl (But Mary isn't really that crazy, just normal)
May 20, 2021 7:30 PM

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AndreCraft_012 said:
Kiyotaka696 said:

even if this girl have plot armor, mary don't have it. Existence X helps mary so she won't die easily, it's not plot armor if its perfectly reasonable, i mean she have a god on her side, anything god being able to do is reasonable, even if mary die, Existence X will revive her anyways, that's not plot armor.
this is the same as saying a character being immortal means it must have plot armor

Wait a minute, Mary has god on her side that will revive her? Wtf is that

I am not saying it like its official, i am just saying that god and her both have the same objective, it will be stupid for existence X to not help her. And yes he does help her.
And he may revive her even if she die, it will be so stupid if he didn't, although if she is so inferior to tanya and can't win against her no matter what, then he probably wouldn't.
If op is talking about plot armour for this girl then i thought he is talking about that moment in the movie where she didn't die, in the first scene god 99% helped her as her eyes glowed and she became very strong afterwards, it will make sense easily god helped her, same with second scene, even if he got there at just a moment before death, its possible god just made it for that guy to know about what's happening, what i am saying is when the enemy is god and can do everything(probably not exactly everything but lots of unnatural things) then there is a low chance its plot armour. Since its the main antagonist in the story.
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May 21, 2021 7:46 AM
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Sit tight, it only gets better since this anime will cover the island arc as well.
May 21, 2021 7:50 AM
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Dirittoprocedura said:
LevelUp37 said:

She is hot BUT SHE KILLED MARCH.
that's the best part. I found march annoying af.

You ok man? I'm genuinely concerned.
May 21, 2021 10:08 AM
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Yellow-Man said:
Dirittoprocedura said:
that's the best part. I found march annoying af.

You ok man? I'm genuinely concerned.
i'm feeling better than march that's for sure.
May 21, 2021 10:20 AM

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It amusing to see normies act like authors especially how they dissect elements of the story with technical designations using terms like plot armor and plot device to name a few.

Take all of that intellectual jargon and it's simply reduced to plain ol whining.
Wahhn!! She's still alive! I hate her! Reeeeee!!!
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May 21, 2021 11:16 AM

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Dirittoprocedura said:
Yellow-Man said:

You ok man? I'm genuinely concerned.
i'm feeling better than march that's for sure.


Could you tell us what you found annoying about a 5 year old kid who just wanted to marry and become a mother? Was it her childish 5 year old personality? Her looks?. I could have understood if it was a fully grown character but hating a child character just for being a annoying child is absurd. Anyways, the people who have read manga knows what will happen to both hayase and even March in the future
May 21, 2021 12:16 PM
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madarchod said:
Dirittoprocedura said:
i'm feeling better than march that's for sure.


Could you tell us what you found annoying about a 5 year old kid who just wanted to marry and become a mother? Was it her childish 5 year old personality? Her looks?. I could have understood if it was a fully grown character but hating a child character just for being a annoying child is absurd. Anyways, the people who have read manga knows what will happen to both hayase and even March in the future
I don't understand what you find so absurd about finding annoying a character that for his own nature is annoying.
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May 21, 2021 9:18 PM
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True, but I think it is just made to actually realise how much she wants to go through with her willing to the point she seems actually kind of insane at the end. Giving the Anime his nature of being sad and not all of a happy ending. But yes, she has been injured so much it is crazy, but I dunno. From what all that happened it was actually said to have been 2 years
May 23, 2021 5:05 AM
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TinyPrawnie said:
What? Her personality is nothing like Mary Sue's. Just because you find them both annoying doesn't make them identical.

Mary is revenge-driven, angry, and self-righteous.
Hayase is cold and self-serving, though

Nothing alike.

I'm only giving some "similar" example, not the motive but the character itself. I know both of them are totally different, but both of them are a crazy girl (But Mary isn't really that crazy, just normal)


AndreCraft_012 said:
and her personality is literaly almost the same like Mary


Well if you know they're not the same, then don't say they're the same.

Also, to go with the actual argument, you're complaining that a fantasy anime isn't realistic. Bears as big as Oniguma shouldn't exist in the first place, nevermind how much damage he would do to Hayase.
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TinyPrawnie said:
What? Her personality is nothing like Mary Sue's. Just because you find them both annoying doesn't make them identical.

Mary is revenge-driven, angry, and self-righteous.
Hayase is cold and self-serving, though

Nothing alike.

I'm only giving some "similar" example, not the motive but the character itself. I know both of them are totally different, but both of them are a crazy girl (But Mary isn't really that crazy, just normal)


AndreCraft_012 said:
and her personality is literaly almost the same like Mary


Well if you know they're not the same, then don't say they're the same.

Also, to go with the actual argument, you're complaining that a fantasy anime isn't realistic. Bears as big as Oniguma shouldn't exist in the first place, nevermind how much damage he would do to Hayase.
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Characters can be different and still be Mary Sue's.

There is no magic. There are no commonplace monsters. You're complaining that a supernatural period piece has fans that enjoy and respected it's maturity and consistency. You can defend bad writing if you want but it's still bad writing. This has devolved into Naruto ever since Hayase reappeared. We have been shown that only supernatural entities can perform at the level they do in this show, yet somehow someone who couldn't even stand in the presence of Fushi in his bear form is now jumping 3 stories high and breaking the sound barrier, acting like she wouldn't have died 12 different times in 20 different ways within 5 seconds. It's an insult to my intelligence, honestly. This is the same person who couldn't overpower Parona and was wounded by her? Parona? The woman who was horrible at fighting and aiming? Would have been better if it wasn't Hayase and rather someone else. We have been shown that she is incapable of what is doing.
May 27, 2024 7:04 AM
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It amusing to see normies act like authors especially how they dissect elements of the story with technical designations using terms like plot armor and plot device to name a few.

Take all of that intellectual jargon and it's simply reduced to plain ol whining.
Wahhn!! She's still alive! I hate her! Reeeeee!!!
@Janethan23 Honestly this reply makes think you're genuinely illiterate. It's okay if you don't understand simple words, but you don't need to take that out on others. It's embarrassing.
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madarchod said:
Dirittoprocedura said:
i'm feeling better than march that's for sure.


Could you tell us what you found annoying about a 5 year old kid who just wanted to marry and become a mother? Was it her childish 5 year old personality? Her looks?. I could have understood if it was a fully grown character but hating a child character just for being a annoying child is absurd. Anyways, the people who have read manga knows what will happen to both hayase and even March in the future
I don't understand what you find so absurd about finding annoying a character that for his own nature is annoying.
@Dirittoprocedura just a bit concerning lol
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@Dirittoprocedura just a bit concerning lol
@cerise_serris how have you even found this after 3 years? The internet do be really remembering everything huh. I don’t even remember to your eternity anymore; a dog, an annoying child and a kid full of alcohol or something are the only things I can recollect. Looking forward to 2027 to hear your reply.

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