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Feb 12, 2021 7:28 AM
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Man, this show just isn't afraid to flex its weapons and mech around. Back Arrow found himself getting pounded but didn't back down.

At this rate, I believe the guy can probably take on anything in their world. Seems Shuu Bi is still pretty curious about him and I wonder if the show will focus more on their character relationship.
Feb 12, 2021 8:46 AM
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dont really get what the point of this episode was, just an episodical story to fill in some space? story was pretty bad tbh, this show has really gone downhill...
Feb 12, 2021 8:51 AM
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A bishounen farm... this is so weird, it looks like a parody of Yakusoku no Neverland xD but their strategy at the end was pretty good, they could escape and steal the wrappers, and Shuu has a really impressive memory to memorize a map like that, nice.
Feb 12, 2021 9:08 AM
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Nice little side story kind of episode. Back Arrow and the Edger villagers helping out these literal pretty boys. Weird how they sparkled with those skin tight suits but that's ok. This episode did show how Back Arrow and Shu aren't that different in how they both could abandon their new friends to achieve their goals. Back Arrow did seemingly flip within the episode where he kinda went against the pretty boys for that map to the wall. But of course Back Arrow wouldn't go along that simply and had an ulterior motive with Shu. Ended up both helping the pretty boys and getting the map information. While things at Rekka are unsettled with Kai in self punishment and Ren sent to go after Shu on a time limit.
Feb 12, 2021 9:09 AM
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Well shit got DARK real quick. Rekka may be awful with slaves, but Lutoh is performing human experimentation. Luckily arrow and crew were able to save those kids and now they can determine their own future.

Kinda felt like a fillerish ep, but it was fun nonetheless. The mech fights were cool.
Feb 12, 2021 9:15 AM
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It's a filler episode but I consider it as an acknowledgement of bishounen culture, and since they're all male it's likely to cover yaoi culture as well. Back Arrow might take an inspiration more from "Promare" than "Gurren Lagann".

Also Rekka's self-discipline is basically an announcement that he's masochist.
Feb 12, 2021 9:22 AM
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WAIT WHAT...a pretty boy farm?

I swear Bit is so naive, try to fool him once, twice or more, there's no shame in toying with him.

Shu Bi being able to operate Granedger like any other aerial vehicle without the Briheight's assistance, yeah how they got a pass with that, I don't know.

The desperation of Kai and Ren Sin from Rekka'a orders, the disingenuity without leading figures (a.k.a Shu Bi) is a mess to be cleaned up at the double, and time is not on their side.

Ashhk said:
A bishounen farm... this is so weird, it looks like a parody of Yakusoku no Neverland xD
OH MY LORD, YES. The similarities are very uncanny xD

A Bishounen farm of Lutoh escapees, as Shu Bi puts it interestingly: Lutoh does human experiments, and Rekka uses slaves. As usual, Back Arrow stands neutral, and Shu Bi is the great strategist to drive sides of trickery.

A filler episode, but at least there's some fun in it.
Feb 12, 2021 9:31 AM
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ye this is just clearly a filler or side story of this anime this kind of episodes is common on old school mecha anime too while the main story or plot is gonna be on the second half of the show

lol one of the pretty boys name is Bruh what a bruh moment there

also his conviction is "survive even if he is the only remaining one" is clearly coward stuff but Arrow says you cannot protect others if you do not survive first anyway so its not that bad if he looks at it on that perspective

im sure that scientific experiment to strengthen their conviction will come up again in later episodes thats a good plot device i must say like they are glowing the more their conviction is strong?
Feb 12, 2021 9:43 AM
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Someone elsewhere mentioned it felt like a standalone One Piece episode and that's not too inaccurate.

You can call it filler...yet I'd say it is definitely a transitional episode too, if you think about it.

They're leaving the Rekka-related content behind, at least for a while, and Lutoh should become more prominent soon based on both the events of the episode and the upcoming preview.

That said, I liked how they set up the interactions between Arrow and Shu, plus they also finally explored more of the ship and gave us some other pieces of information. Not bad, but surely less exciting than last week.


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Feb 12, 2021 10:21 AM
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This episode was quite the "Bruh Moment"
Feb 12, 2021 10:24 AM
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Arrow and Shu’s plan to help the bishounen, makes me wonder if Shu is doing something similar with Kai. Shu in the last episode made a point of telling Kai “Your biggest enemy is Back Arrow” after Kai says Shu is his enemy, seemingly trying to create a rivalry between the two, maybe trying to strengthen Kai’s Unrivaled conviction with an adversary that has incredible potential like Arrow. It seems mutually beneficial since Arrow is able to pick up techniques on the fly, like how he did his own version of Kai’s hand energy beam supposedly after seeing him do it.

Considering the bombs used in Shu’s defection and bluff on Kai, I wonder if this Minister Kyo had a part in it since Kai mentioned he is in charge of weapons development and he seemed to give Ren a three day reprieve. Kai also calls him a self preserving slimeball so that would give him a motive to help Shu defect, since now he has a higher position as Head Diviner. Also, his character design has a similar hat to Shu’s possibly implying a connection between the two, sort of like how Shu and Ren have those green belts.

Dr Sola seems to have some connection to Lutoh and given how they value intelligence that would explain his knowledge of the technology of this world. That would mean the main characters acquired allies from the two major factions.
Feb 12, 2021 10:38 AM

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Seeing Bruh in the subtitles was more enjoyable and funnier than anything this show has offered so far.
Feb 12, 2021 11:03 AM

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My god this was by a mile the worst episode. I dont even mind if it was a filler or not, again, thats very normal to the writer nakashima, but my god, was this completely unnecessary and not enjoyable. The "pretty boys" were truly boring, their personality was literally just that they were pretty boys in danger. Like really??? I actually thought that maybe they could have gone on the ship with the others and we would see them evolving as characters but no, just unnecessary and not interesting characters for an entire episode.
The direction was also awful. A good example of this is the part with the red girl and the grampa (which is also a terrible character), as their conversation lasted about 10 seconds and then they IMEADIATLY cut away at the red girls crying, which is already bad enough, but they only show her crying for LITERALLY ONE GOD DAM SECOND????? Dont they know that time is necessary for emotional scenes????? The emotional scenes from the pretty boys had more time than one of our main girls ffs!!!!
The only good thing i can say was probably the last conversation between shu and arrow, as it was pretty well handled and it made sense, but that little conversation wont save this actually truly boring and terrible episode.
Feb 12, 2021 11:52 AM

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The pace for this episode was so fast that everthing that happened lacked any weight whatsoever. The whole “pretty boy” storyline and the villiage chief resigning were both blazed passed, making the consequences of those actions feel meaningless. I think I’m going to drop this for now. I’ll continue to check on it and see if it really starts to get good, but 18 more episodes is too much for me at this quality.
Feb 12, 2021 12:12 PM

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An episode that nothing happens unless those kids will come up as allies later on.

This show is starting to feel really bad so far I have only enjoyed ep. 3.
Feb 12, 2021 12:56 PM

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Seeing bruh in the subtitles and wondering if I was watching a fansub was probably the best bit of the episode

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Feb 12, 2021 1:00 PM
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Atlee’s reaction to Bit when he said pretty to Bruh was amusing.

Good episode. This show is seriously underrated. :(
Feb 12, 2021 1:01 PM

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Chroma said:
This show is starting to feel really bad so far I have only enjoyed ep. 3.


If you didn't like at least last week's episode, then I can't imagine what you'd enjoy.

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I’ll continue to check on it and see if it really starts to get good, but 18 more episodes is too much for me at this quality.


Feel free to do so, but I don't think it makes any sense to judge the quality of remaining episodes based on a one-off detour.

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I actually thought that maybe they could have gone on the ship with the others and we would see them evolving as characters but no, just unnecessary and not interesting characters for an entire episode.


I am not going to speculate about whether they'll show up again or not, because you never know, but I don't think what you're proposing was too likely to happen. The main group is already big enough as it is. Not even One Piece has them bring in every single minor character into the crew and that's a series with literally hundreds of episodes.

A good example of this is the part with the red girl and the grampa (which is also a terrible character), as their conversation lasted about 10 seconds and then they IMEADIATLY cut away at the red girls crying, which is already bad enough, but they only show her crying for LITERALLY ONE GOD DAM SECOND????? Dont they know that time is necessary for emotional scenes????? The emotional scenes from the pretty boys had more time than one of our main girls ffs!!!!


Last week spent plenty of time on emotional scenes, so that's really a rhetorical question. It's a matter of relative importance to the events going on.

Having said that...I think you should take into account they can continue with that sub-plot using small scenes across a set of episodes. It's not meant to be already resolved. Conversely, they're unlikely to meet with all these boys again in the near future, so dealing with their problem was more relevant at this time.
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Feb 12, 2021 1:10 PM

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GolbeztheGreat said:


Blue_Maroon said:
I’ll continue to check on it and see if it really starts to get good, but 18 more episodes is too much for me at this quality.


Feel free to do so, but I don't think it makes any sense to judge the quality of remaining episodes based on a one-off detour.



I am dropping it because of the quality of the series as a whole. This episode was just the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. This is an original anime, so placing a one-off detour as the 6th episode definitely gets factored into the quality of the series as a whole and could indicate similar episodes in the future.
Feb 12, 2021 2:00 PM

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GolbeztheGreat said:


VP2003boi said:
I actually thought that maybe they could have gone on the ship with the others and we would see them evolving as characters but no, just unnecessary and not interesting characters for an entire episode.


I am not going to speculate about whether they'll show up again or not, because you never know, but I don't think what you're proposing was too likely to happen. The main group is already big enough as it is. Not even One Piece has them bring in every single minor character into the crew and that's a series with literally hundreds of episodes.

A good example of this is the part with the red girl and the grampa (which is also a terrible character), as their conversation lasted about 10 seconds and then they IMEADIATLY cut away at the red girls crying, which is already bad enough, but they only show her crying for LITERALLY ONE GOD DAM SECOND????? Dont they know that time is necessary for emotional scenes????? The emotional scenes from the pretty boys had more time than one of our main girls ffs!!!!


Last week spent plenty of time on emotional scenes, so that's really a rhetorical question. It's a matter of relative importance to the events going on.

Having said that...I think you should take into account they can continue with that sub-plot using small scenes across a set of episodes. It's not meant to be already resolved. Conversely, they're unlikely to meet with all these boys again in the near future, so dealing with their problem was more relevant at this time.
My main problem with the interaction between the red girl and the grampa was the direction itself, as the scene wanted to pass sadness, but in reality, thanks to being way to fast, just made me laugh of how bad it was handled, do i think they will show it better next time? I very much hope so, but in this episode they very much failed to bring me to care.
About the pretty boys, although i do believe they will actually come back to help the crew in one way one another, my main problem is that, once again, the anime tried to make me like and appreciate this characters, and, once again, failed pretty hard thanks to them having basically no personality, and the worst is that, although like i said, i do think they will come back, i dont believe at all their personality will develop.
Feb 12, 2021 6:27 PM
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dont really get what the point of this episode was, just an episodical story to fill in some space? story was pretty bad tbh, this show has really gone downhill...


This is why the mech genre is dead and why we've moved past 90's anime. Its literally a detour for the sake of a detour. This would be more acceptable in a shounen but it would still be considered cliché'd to hell already. At least it's not cowboy bebop levels of unfocused plot. I only like these modern retellings of 90's shows (scifi/mecha) (Darling, Astra lost in space, Back, SSSS Gridman) for the clean, retro and simple art style which I find pleasing to the eye, but I would never be the one to NOT watch a show because of something as surface level as an artstyle. Overall it's rated a bit too low at a 5.5. Id say lowest 6.5 and highest a 7
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Blue_Maroon said:

I am dropping it because of the quality of the series as a whole. This episode was just the straw that broke the camel’s back, so to speak. This is an original anime, so placing a one-off detour as the 6th episode definitely gets factored into the quality of the series as a whole and could indicate similar episodes in the future.


Fair enough, although I don't really share your conclusion anyway. I've generally liked the previous episodes more than this one in particular and, given that we're already moving on to Lutoh and presumably closer to the wall, there'll be less time for such detours after this point.

As for the comments regarding what was the point of this episode, I think it's also likely we'll get to see more of Lutoh's human experiments sooner or later, so this episodic conflict was one way of introducing or foreshadowing that idea.

Was it the best example or the only way to do that? Of course not, but it is one plausible storytelling function.
Feb 13, 2021 12:34 AM

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That bishounen farm is a bruh moment lmao. Fine episode, Arrow and Shu's talk at the end of the episode was honestly really interesting.
Feb 13, 2021 1:13 AM

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This episode is as good as ever!

More and more like Arrow. His conversation with Bruh really shows that he cares about others. This sharp, honest and kind personality really appeals to me. Who doesn't like a man who is so straightforward and passionate?

Shu's strategy remains as magical as before. At the end of this episode, I watched his dialogue with Arrow several times, which was very powerful. These two people belong to the type of being particularly firm in some aspects and open-minded in others. They always speak in a calm and peaceful manner, and every word contains full strength. Both of them know that they use each other.

Besides, the part of this episode where Bit is called Admiral is really funny. Poor Bit… played by Shu. (So funny Bit was beaten by those boys because of that shiny fan.)

Minister Kyo, the Minister of Defense, seems to be no ordinary man. A minister who can climb up to this position is definitely not a nobody. He also runs together in the ED this time, which means he will be in the Rekka in the OP of the next episode. I feel that his role is to replace Shu after Shu went to the MC's group. I think he and Shu have reached a certain consensus to a certain extent, which leads to the next Rekka's plot: Ren Sin's three-day adventure.

The doctor seems to be from Lutoh, and the portrayal of him in this episode basically confirms this guess. Among the clues are human experiments and the doctor's past. One may point out the nature of the mecha, the other may dig deeper into the Lutoh's plot.

The female knight is finally going to appear in the next episode, probably starting the plot of Lutoh.

Feb 13, 2021 1:40 AM

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So Elsha's now the village chief. Also wtf is a pretty boys farm, that was weird.
Feb 13, 2021 3:16 AM

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Bruh, the most Taniguchi episode so far lol.
Feb 13, 2021 5:50 AM

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So Elsha's now the village chief. Also wtf is a pretty boys farm, that was weird.

The ship heading for the new era can not accommodate the captain of the old era. That's probably what it means I think…

These pretty boys are not the point at all. It can be regarded as an episode when the MC group is coming out of the wall, because there must be something written in the middle, although I personally think it is a bit strange. 😂

Feb 13, 2021 10:21 AM

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My only favorite on this episode is only the name and the subtitle of Bruh.

Hehe... Bruh



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Feb 13, 2021 12:26 PM
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Shu found the auto-pilot mode on their plane, even to the whole interesting room around those big ship. Thanks to his status as a genius diviner, everything must just be easy to convince, even toying with Bit too, as their new admiral. Great shit, and the villagers looked pretty much enjoy their new life, above the sky.

Anyway, they passed through a barren province to reach the walls. This time they met out with the shiny boy farm, and how they turned out to be a livestocks later, were not so surprising afterall. You know, this season have one show of those theme too. In order to helped them be the autonomous by themself, Arrow and the rest of his trusted friends did something to strengthened their conviction. So, yeah, a little trick, even to their friends at the Edgar village too, they did that smoothly. In short, he successfully making those Bruh better, and decided to defend themself, apart from the influence of Arrow and the others.

What about character development? Bit being a punching bag? Laugh my ass off with those silly character. But that old chief seriously grow my irritation up with how he conducted to the whole situations. Its made Elsha frustate to those decision, poor girl. Anyway, Rekka introduced the Minister of Defence, which looks alike an interesting character. While Ren served a period of open detention in the capital, when Kai hurted himself. Well, fine, then, you both seriously got a hard life there, after Shu backstabbed them. Rip....

Well, that's all for now. It was truly another built up moments, and i hope something big happened at the next episode. Lets see....
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Feb 13, 2021 5:46 PM

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“it’s me, Bruh! Open it up!” this had me dying
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Bruh ? For me it said Blue

Funny how many still don't get the comedy and take the wacky world way too serious.
Back Arrow reminds me of Ixion Saga DT and I hope it won't change the tone and ruin the credibility of the world that's being set up.
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What about character development? Bit being a punching bag? Laugh my ass off with those silly character. But that old chief seriously grow my irritation up with how he conducted to the whole situations. Its made Elsha frustate to those decision, poor girl.

Bit and the old chief made me very angry at first. Bit is completely a child. I was worried about his behavior in the previous episodes, but this episode he was cheated by Shu and didn't know. It was so interesting. Sure enough, Shu is very charming. The old chief just wants to go back to the old peaceful life from beginning to end, without realizing that it is almost impossible. As you said, he couldn't command the whole situation. I'm afraid he will leave the group in the future, and then he may be kidnapped or something, and then the group will be affected. Elsha is now caught in a huge conflict because of grandpa's words. In fact, she has a desire for "outside the wall".

Feb 14, 2021 8:09 AM

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pretty boy? hmmm not bad...but ladyboys are better...lololoLERZ


Feb 14, 2021 3:01 PM

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Shu Bi of the Rebellion. Though, sometimes it just seems like his enemies are just dumb. At least in Code Geass, Lelouch's enemies don't initially know he has a special power. Shu Bi is the by far the smartest character, but not necessarily smart.

Why is he named Bruh?????

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WAIT WHAT...a pretty boy farm?

I swear Bit is so naive, try to fool him once, twice or more, there's no shame in toying with him.

Shu Bi being able to operate Granedger like any other aerial vehicle without the Briheight's assistance, yeah how they got a pass with that, I don't know.

The desperation of Kai and Ren Sin from Rekka'a orders, the disingenuity without leading figures (a.k.a Shu Bi) is a mess to be cleaned up at the double, and time is not on their side.

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A bishounen farm... this is so weird, it looks like a parody of Yakusoku no Neverland xD
OH MY LORD, YES. The similarities are very uncanny xD

A Bishounen farm of Lutoh escapees, as Shu Bi puts it interestingly: Lutoh does human experiments, and Rekka uses slaves. As usual, Back Arrow stands neutral, and Shu Bi is the great strategist to drive sides of trickery.

A filler episode, but at least there's some fun in it.


Not sure if this was really meant to be a friendly parody of Neverland, but it definitely felt like something Neverland could be if it were an otome game lol. I was more amused that that little dude seemed to be more "motivated" by these boys than the female cast.
Feb 16, 2021 2:59 PM

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This episode was literally just Ram Ranch, complete with getting under siege.
Feb 21, 2021 1:50 AM
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Shu & Arrow growing into such a fun tricky pair.
Bit: weak to food, money & pretty boys bruh.
Jul 31, 2021 3:24 AM

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Bruh ...couldn't they have thought up a better name for a pretty boy.
Satisfying to see Bit punched there by the pretty boys who didn't know about Arrow's plan.

Oct 2, 2021 11:35 PM
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"do all pretty boys sparkle?" lmao

other than that...ugh. what a mediocre episode. these last 2 episodes have been a bad trend. i'm afraid this show is just going downhill now

i'll put it on hold for a bit. maybe start it back up again at some point
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This episode is really entertaining, it gives some moral lesson of believing in oneself.
Shuu and Arrow's actions when they came barging in their enemies fortress like it's normal and the lord simply welcomed them... LOL

Elsha's grandfather, clueless of their antics... lol
Pretty funny episode.
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