Forum SettingsEpisode Information
Forums
New
Pages (3) « 1 2 [3]
Dec 29, 2020 12:41 AM

Offline
Aug 2018
2421
Arin-san said:
Some of the criticisms here in this thread is the most shallowest criticism I've ever seen. Imagine getting this mad over some SoL rom-com Iyashikei anime.

The whole point of the show is that Nasa is a very immature and child-like MC who has no experience in relationship. That's the whole god damn show. They learn the experience of relationship while they are in their married life. Nasa never had a girlfriend in his life, yet he married a girl, simply because she's cute. What did you expect from this show? Did you expect Nasa to be some chad god? Man, some people can be so salty. I find Nasa to be one of the better MCs, compared to MCs like Kazuya. There were times when I thought Nasa would become a bad MC, like when Tsukasa was sleeping and Nasa thought that maybe he should kiss her. Then he stopped himself and prevented himself from turning into a shit MC. Nasa isn't the perfect rom-com MC, but he isn't the worst either like some people claim. And he definitely isn't creepy and in an abusive relationship with Tsukasa like some people claim.

Enough salt for today, OP probably has his answer and needs to close this thread before more salty people start attacking.


And that's supposed to be a believable story - that he married her because she's cute, and she married him because (no explanation given)? If a main character in an action shounen got a massive power up with no rational justification given, we call it plot convenience.

The problem is the story wants the audience to feel a positive emotion out of a negative character trait, and while adding nothing of value to the story or to the relationship progress. For other MCs like Kazuya in Kanokari, this isn't the case as their negative traits are there for the plot.
Dec 29, 2020 12:45 AM

Offline
Jul 2020
32
I am a manga reader....and i would say its a lot more than just wholesome romance.The anime is well adapted with awesome opening and ending songs. Its definitely worth watching.
Dec 29, 2020 12:48 AM

Offline
Jun 2020
1407
DanialAbid said:
DanialAbid said:
hahahahaha ok! I'm doing it...............
wtf it keeps saying you don't have access for it!

First go to Edit, not quick edit. Then click on delete.




I said keep your hands on the table
Dec 29, 2020 12:54 AM

Offline
Jun 2012
751
If anything it's worth a watch so you can spot all the Hayate The Combat Butler references in some of the episodes.
Dec 29, 2020 12:54 AM

Offline
Jun 2020
1407
Opticflash said:
Arin-san said:
Some of the criticisms here in this thread is the most shallowest criticism I've ever seen. Imagine getting this mad over some SoL rom-com Iyashikei anime.

The whole point of the show is that Nasa is a very immature and child-like MC who has no experience in relationship. That's the whole god damn show. They learn the experience of relationship while they are in their married life. Nasa never had a girlfriend in his life, yet he married a girl, simply because she's cute. What did you expect from this show? Did you expect Nasa to be some chad god? Man, some people can be so salty. I find Nasa to be one of the better MCs, compared to MCs like Kazuya. There were times when I thought Nasa would become a bad MC, like when Tsukasa was sleeping and Nasa thought that maybe he should kiss her. Then he stopped himself and prevented himself from turning into a shit MC. Nasa isn't the perfect rom-com MC, but he isn't the worst either like some people claim. And he definitely isn't creepy and in an abusive relationship with Tsukasa like some people claim.

Enough salt for today, OP probably has his answer and needs to close this thread before more salty people start attacking.


And that's supposed to be a believable story - that he married her because she's cute, and she married him because (no explanation given)? If a main character in an action shounen got a massive power up with no rational justification given, we call it plot convenience.

The problem is the story wants the audience to feel a positive emotion out of a negative character trait, and while adding nothing of value to the story or to the relationship progress. For other MCs like Kazuya in Kanokari, this isn't the case as their negative traits are there for the plot.

My goodness, stop repeating yourself like a broken record. ANIME ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC. Jesus Christ. They met each other, and they married, simply because the girl is cute and the girl likes the boy because of some mysterious reason that will later be revealed. That. is. the. whole. point. of. the. show. There is no plot convenience or a need of explanation in an Iyashikei anime like that. This isn't a battle shounen so we don't need detailed explanation for every move they make.

KanoKari had bunch of problems, don't even compare it with Tonikawa. Kazuya is a self loathing piece of shit and the author of KanoKari is delusional, in the manga he barely develops after millions of chapter, he is selfish, the girls are stupid. So many problems with KanoKari that I've lost count. The MC doesn't need to be realistic, doesn't need to have negative traits which he constantly whines and cries about, all of those things aren't a necessity to have a good story. I don't get your logic at all.




I said keep your hands on the table
Dec 29, 2020 12:59 AM

Offline
Jun 2012
751
I find it hilarious when people attempt to inject logic into something that is clearly illogical from the start.
Dec 29, 2020 1:35 AM

Offline
Jun 2020
1407
Glordit said:
I find it hilarious when people attempt to inject logic into something that is clearly illogical from the start.

You are speaking nothing but facts, tell it to the people man




I said keep your hands on the table
Dec 29, 2020 2:48 AM
Offline
Nov 2020
302
Arin-san said:
DanialAbid said:
wtf it keeps saying you don't have access for it!

First go to Edit, not quick edit. Then click on delete.
still not happening. What's wrong with it?
Dec 29, 2020 9:13 AM

Offline
Aug 2018
2421
Arin-san said:
Opticflash said:


And that's supposed to be a believable story - that he married her because she's cute, and she married him because (no explanation given)? If a main character in an action shounen got a massive power up with no rational justification given, we call it plot convenience.

The problem is the story wants the audience to feel a positive emotion out of a negative character trait, and while adding nothing of value to the story or to the relationship progress. For other MCs like Kazuya in Kanokari, this isn't the case as their negative traits are there for the plot.

My goodness, stop repeating yourself like a broken record. ANIME ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC. Jesus Christ. They met each other, and they married, simply because the girl is cute and the girl likes the boy because of some mysterious reason that will later be revealed. That. is. the. whole. point. of. the. show. There is no plot convenience or a need of explanation in an Iyashikei anime like that. This isn't a battle shounen so we don't need detailed explanation for every move they make.

KanoKari had bunch of problems, don't even compare it with Tonikawa. Kazuya is a self loathing piece of shit and the author of KanoKari is delusional, in the manga he barely develops after millions of chapter, he is selfish, the girls are stupid. So many problems with KanoKari that I've lost count. The MC doesn't need to be realistic, doesn't need to have negative traits which he constantly whines and cries about, all of those things aren't a necessity to have a good story. I don't get your logic at all.


Holy shit, Aran-san, and I'll repeat it one more time for you to understand: it needs to make logical sense, if the goal is to show any sort of normalcy or realism. The normalcy or realism is the couple being together and doing stuff like a loving couple in an ordinary setting. The author is not successful in that goal because the story is not logical. One of the only times (perhaps the only) it doesn't need to is when the story or scene is done for comedy (for a reference of comedy see something like Cautious Hero where abilities are pulled out of hats for the purpose of comedy). Do you understand what a plot convenience is? Do you understand what a plot hole is? Do you understand the concept of suspension of disbelief? Plot conveniences and plot holes are terms frequently used when criticizing battle shounen. This isn't a battle shounen, but I am using what's called an analogy, where if plot conveniences or plot holes are introduced in battle shounens, they appear in reviews and opinions in MAL and other places in the form of critiques. This is what I am doing for this anime.

That Kazuya is a piece of shit has nothing to do with how good the show is, because the goal isn't to paint him in a positive light. The goal is to use his negative traits as cause for drama, and emotions surrounding that drama (see, for example, episode 4), and the author was successful in that goal. We have main characters who are piece of shits all the time according to people in fiction; see Death Note or Grand Theft Auto games for example. Are we now saying Death Note or Grand Theft Auto single player storylines are bad because the characters are piece of shits, Aran-san?
OpticflashDec 29, 2020 9:17 AM
Dec 29, 2020 9:36 AM
Offline
Nov 2020
302
Opticflash said:
Arin-san said:

My goodness, stop repeating yourself like a broken record. ANIME ISN'T SUPPOSED TO BE REALISTIC. Jesus Christ. They met each other, and they married, simply because the girl is cute and the girl likes the boy because of some mysterious reason that will later be revealed. That. is. the. whole. point. of. the. show. There is no plot convenience or a need of explanation in an Iyashikei anime like that. This isn't a battle shounen so we don't need detailed explanation for every move they make.

KanoKari had bunch of problems, don't even compare it with Tonikawa. Kazuya is a self loathing piece of shit and the author of KanoKari is delusional, in the manga he barely develops after millions of chapter, he is selfish, the girls are stupid. So many problems with KanoKari that I've lost count. The MC doesn't need to be realistic, doesn't need to have negative traits which he constantly whines and cries about, all of those things aren't a necessity to have a good story. I don't get your logic at all.


Holy shit, Aran-san, and I'll repeat it one more time for you to understand: it needs to make logical sense, if the goal is to show any sort of normalcy or realism. The normalcy or realism is the couple being together and doing stuff like a loving couple in an ordinary setting. The author is not successful in that goal because the story is not logical. One of the only times (perhaps the only) it doesn't need to is when the story or scene is done for comedy (for a reference of comedy see something like Cautious Hero where abilities are pulled out of hats for the purpose of comedy). Do you understand what a plot convenience is? Do you understand what a plot hole is? Do you understand the concept of suspension of disbelief? Plot conveniences and plot holes are terms frequently used when criticizing battle shounen. This isn't a battle shounen, but I am using what's called an analogy, where if plot conveniences or plot holes are introduced in battle shounens, they appear in reviews and opinions in MAL and other places in the form of critiques. This is what I am doing for this anime.

That Kazuya is a piece of shit has nothing to do with how good the show is, because the goal isn't to paint him in a positive light. The goal is to use his negative traits as cause for drama, and emotions surrounding that drama (see, for example, episode 4), and the author was successful in that goal. We have main characters who are piece of shits all the time according to people in fiction; see Death Note or Grand Theft Auto games for example. Are we now saying Death Note or Grand Theft Auto single player storylines are bad because the characters are piece of shits, Aran-san?
oh what have I done!!I didn't read this to avoid spoilers but this much big and serious debates! Chill down everyone. I'll watch it. It's interesting to me
Jan 5, 2021 10:51 AM

Offline
Aug 2017
2450
3/10. It was boring and awkward. I prefer harem masters.
Jan 5, 2021 1:03 PM

Offline
Oct 2019
112
It’s lowkey kinda shit, not even lowkey tbh. As long as you don’t think about what they’re doing to much you should be 100% fine and enjoy it. Wish you luck
Aria is the greatest manga of all time
Jan 5, 2021 2:02 PM
scientia exitus

Offline
Mar 2020
6109
Lots of people are going to be turned off and maybe even be disgusted by the first episode; myself included. I mean it's basically pervert loser sees hot girl and stupidly crosses the street to follow her and then gets hit by a truck and then survives because said cute girl saved him and now out of nowhere wants to marry him. Wtf? I for one am just sick of the idiot pervert mc getting the perfect girl for himself.

But I said I'd watch just one more episode just to give it one more chance, and I kept watching from there. Why?? Because if you can get over that initial weird hump, what follows is actually quite a wholesome, and maybe even, realistic, relationship after marriage. Like they talk about house stuff and bills and all the technicalities that a newly wed couple might discuss after marriage, even end up arguing a bit. Mc is still a bit of perv but it turns out he's not some loser after all, and actually really genuinely loves and cares deeply for his newly wed wife, always thinking about her before himself. And not in a simp way, he just, loves her, I guess. Might even be borderline chad/thotslayer. Mc has a conversation about love with the slightly annoying girl which actually moved me a bit. Gotta say I was pleasantly surprised after being so ready to give it a 3/10; gave it a 7/10 instead.

And above all, it really is, kawaii. I enjoyed it, but still my opinion isn't that strong about it. Don't listen to me who liked it, or someone else who hated it, I'd say give it at least 3 episodes to decide for yourself. If you just want a cute, light-hearted anime about the rare case in anime of a relationship AFTER marriage, I think you should definitely give this one a chance.
BetaMaleUltraJan 5, 2021 2:07 PM


NYANPASU
whiskey tango foxtrot

Jan 5, 2021 2:06 PM
Offline
May 2020
40
Cute, lovely and happy but certain people find this boring
Jan 5, 2021 2:22 PM

Offline
Mar 2018
966
Merged Posts #45 - #115 from Dupe Thread.



☆  PlayStation: KoitoTV
☆  Discord: Koito
☆  Twitch Koito
☆  @Koito91
Jan 7, 2021 8:39 AM

Offline
Sep 2016
1451
A lot of answers here show that some guys never had any relationship, or any real relationship that is.
That's the sole reason they would deem some behaviours like they did...


That said, this show is just a gold mine. Slow burner, yeah.
bruh
Jan 21, 2021 4:52 AM

Offline
Oct 2008
8561
I have to ask, are the landlord and maid at the begining of ep 9 from another anime. If so can anyone tell me the title. I think its a pretty obvious easter egg, but I could be wrong.
Jan 27, 2021 7:44 AM

Offline
Nov 2016
31
Watched it. Enjoyed the first 2 episodes. Then I started to hate it.
The worst SoL/Romance anime i ever saw. Comedy? Dosen't even exist.

The subcharacters are actually better than the main characters.
Jan 27, 2021 9:45 AM

Offline
Oct 2014
68
my opinion: the people that liked this show have a really low bar of quality. its not really doing anything new except the setting is now that couple is married instead of beeing an akward highschool couple that has never ever touched a relationship before. characters are nothing new to rom coms either even though some people want to believe that. Its the litteral Main character beeing kind and clumsy trope that has been going on for decades. Even animation is more or less sloppy. Fitting scores if you only consider rom com are probably about 3-6/10, and 6 only if youre having a strong bias liking it. For myself its a 2/10. I have a strong bias against it
Jan 29, 2021 2:38 PM

Offline
Feb 2019
55
Early romance, no stupid misunderstandings and a loyal couple (10)+ meh story(-1)+zero fun(-1)+ maried couple with 12 years old mentality (-2) + super annoying sister-in-law (-2)=4
"We make demands because we have nothing. We pray because it won't come true. We fall because we fly." (Sundome C48)
Feb 3, 2021 1:11 AM
Offline
Mar 2016
89
I was watching this to waste my time till my favourite series get updated I would say around for me it was 2/10
Feb 5, 2021 2:58 AM
Offline
Jan 2021
10
This anime is giving a hard punch in the face to a 28yo single man like me. But i love it.
Feb 6, 2021 5:37 AM
Offline
Oct 2018
20
it's actually brilliant. It's like the sequel to every romcom ever. Wholesome but not in the fluffy kind, in the CHONKY kind. No character development whatsoever, just food. If you want plot and drama don't watch it I guess. If you want to eat good, it's great.
Feb 7, 2021 12:35 AM

Offline
Mar 2017
54
This series is romance heaven. Literally no other series can scratch my rom itches like this one can.
The right to violate the rights of the people belong only to the people themselves!
Feb 8, 2021 9:06 AM
Offline
Jul 2018
562233
It's pretty good. Very wholesome and cute. No "will they or won't they?" type of BS, doesn't take place in high school, and adds a little bit of mystery just for a little flavor. Edgelords will definitely hate it though. Anyone who doesn't apply their own standards to everything like "all stories have to be realistic" or something like that will probably be able to appreciate it. It's probably one of more enjoyable romance anime that I've watched.
Feb 28, 2021 3:17 PM

Offline
Mar 2015
938
Arin-san said:
Did you expect Nasa to be some chad god?
I didn't expect him to be the god of virgins to the very end. In last episode he started to make some moves but the girl was like: oh no you don't, - and that was it for me. It's not romcom, its some quality satire. I remembered a video about a guy going around bitchslapping his entire family - and that is what I wanted to do to all the characters and the author.
pasanoidFeb 28, 2021 3:23 PM
Am I a good person? No. But do I try to be better every single day? Also no
Mar 1, 2021 5:37 AM
Offline
Feb 2021
1
Very cute anime...
Mar 19, 2021 2:26 PM
Offline
Mar 2021
1
It's not going to be anything that wows you with its plot or anything. This isn't a bad thing though because that's now what the show is meant for. It's supposed to be your classic rom com with really good humor that'll make you laugh hard at times but also have really good romance moments that gets your heart beating and smile a little.

If you're looking for an anime that has a really dramatic and detailed plot, don't watch this. This isn't what you're looking for. This is something for you to just relax on and watch some good romance when you just wanna relax

This show is also gonna make you feel terrible if you're single though lol
Mar 20, 2021 12:01 AM
Offline
Aug 2020
8
Wasn't the worst, wasn't the greatest. I Enjoyed it but
i mostly watched it drunk before bed.
Mar 20, 2021 12:05 AM
scientia exitus

Offline
Mar 2020
6109
It's all in the name: kawaii. If you want some cute couple stuff, look no further. I mean how many anime do you get where they get married right off the bat?

If you're looking for something extreme with a lot of love drama, you're probably going to bored with this. This is just a cute, sweet, wholesome little show and that's pretty much all there is to it.


NYANPASU
whiskey tango foxtrot

Mar 20, 2021 12:06 AM

Offline
Jul 2019
2701
I think it's overrated. everyone said the MC wasn't a simp but he was simping from the get go. VAs don't match their characters at all and they literally look like junior high students. unrealistic as well. dropped it after one episode.
Apr 19, 2021 6:31 PM
Offline
May 2016
189
I mean it was cute, but it wasn't anything that unique or praiseworthy. When I first started watching, I thought it was going to have some sort of supernatural twist (like Mikakunin de Shinkoukei), where there was some reason she survived getting hit by a truck or why she was so mysterious about her past, but alas no.

I probably wouldn't rewatch it.
May 2, 2021 1:54 AM
Offline
May 2021
1
As an anime newbie.. I find this really cute and relatable. I can understand how others blew this out of proportion. I dont think think it was the writer's intention though..
Then again, you can't please everybody..

Contrary to others, I've rewatched this too.. Something to lighten me up amid these trying times.

Stay safe everyone! 😊
May 7, 2021 5:03 PM
Offline
Mar 2021
46
Sorry if I'm late at this but,Tonikaku Kawaii is a good one,for me it's just like a slice of life anime which for me it's kinda fun 7/10
May 7, 2021 5:04 PM
🦆👑

Offline
Jan 2020
66660
it's awful. Main characters, comedy and art were all subpar/cringe and I struggled to make it through the 12 episodes. I'm in the minority so you might like it



May 10, 2021 9:33 PM
Offline
Apr 2021
120
SSj97 said:
This series is romance heaven. Literally no other series can scratch my rom itches like this one can.
this is is facts. So wholesome
May 10, 2021 9:38 PM
Offline
Apr 2021
37
it's a good anime, pretty wholesome, no love triangles, no harems, just a good slice of life anime about a newlywed couple.

Jun 26, 2021 9:06 AM
Offline
Jun 2021
16
Every one its the beast anime that i have seen ok hare is what i mind: In other animes (MOST OF THEM) the mc cant eaven Kiss or someone interupts i like this one becuase thinks flow:



Story: 8/10
Is notingh especial but prob (SPOILER ALERT) nasa's wife is imortal (probaly) New you would thinks that this ruined the anime? NO! (NO SPOILER ON THIS PART) The anime story is not that good but its certanly not the worse

Characthers: 9/10

The charathers hare so lovely made that you Will probaly love them It Just so good the history behind the characthers.

Story:8/10

The story is soo good and soo confusing on the First episode but you Will understand the story and (SPOILER ALERT) Nana's wife is probaly imortal that adds many Secrets that hare not revealed and that IS ading hype to the 2 season!.

Animation: 9/10

YOU WILL LOVE THE ANIMATION AND THE CHARACTHERS!!! its very good how they did the animation its nothing special on the animation of the anime but of the characthers i loved It in particular.

Overrall: 9/10

This anime os whort It to whatch, give It a chance! Its not an special anime but its still Very good!!
Jul 1, 2021 7:25 PM
Offline
Jun 2021
16
Koro_sensei_28 said:
Hey there,
I was planning to watch Tonikaku Kawaii. But couldn't decide if it's worth my time. It has a good rating sure.
But I was wondering about the story and what type of ending it MAY have. How many episodes/manga chapters are still to be published? (guess/prediction)


Hey its like for some its good and bad for others on my opinion its good.

i recomend
Jul 22, 2021 10:38 AM
Offline
Nov 2019
407
Weird seven arcs was also responsible for

Trinity seven
And sekirei....

I thought they went bankrupt lol
Feb 6, 2022 8:34 PM

Offline
Oct 2014
68
ManWild said:
it's awful. Main characters, comedy and art were all subpar/cringe and I struggled to make it through the 12 episodes. I'm in the minority so you might like it


Quite the stamina. i couldnt bear it anymore after episode 9. i tried. :C
Mar 15, 2022 10:01 AM
Offline
May 2021
2638
This anime is trash 2/10 anime.
Mar 18, 2022 3:51 PM

Offline
Apr 2021
7
Zerephiehell said:
ManWild said:
it's awful. Main characters, comedy and art were all subpar/cringe and I struggled to make it through the 12 episodes. I'm in the minority so you might like it


Quite the stamina. i couldnt bear it anymore after episode 9. i tried. :C

same here. i was fighting to finish this anime, i tried and finished it. idk why the score is so high, imo its pretty garbage
Mar 19, 2022 5:12 PM

Offline
Oct 2014
68
Manteyy said:
Zerephiehell said:


Quite the stamina. i couldnt bear it anymore after episode 9. i tried. :C

same here. i was fighting to finish this anime, i tried and finished it. idk why the score is so high, imo its pretty garbage


pretty sure its because people have tunnelvison and fill all the problems and gaps where this anime is lacking within their head.
May 16, 2022 7:10 PM
Offline
Apr 2021
71
im a pretty huge fan of the romance genre, but tonikaku kawaii is awful. Watching every episode was a struggle. Even the OP with the letters bouncing around in no particular direction made me want to vomit.
May 17, 2022 12:29 AM
Offline
Feb 2019
41
It's okay, but the full version of opening slap's
Pages (3) « 1 2 [3]

More topics from this board

Poll: » Tonikaku Kawaii Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 )

KANLen09 - Dec 4, 2020

96 by vinnylomtheweeb »»
Apr 16, 8:13 PM

Poll: » Tonikaku Kawaii Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )

Stark700 - Oct 2, 2020

401 by meeko-meeko »»
Apr 7, 8:28 AM

Poll: » Tonikaku Kawaii Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 )

Marinate1016 - Oct 9, 2020

229 by meeko-meeko »»
Apr 7, 8:28 AM

Poll: » Tonikaku Kawaii Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )

KANLen09 - Nov 20, 2020

153 by AoButa16 »»
Feb 16, 4:59 AM

Poll: » Tonikaku Kawaii Episode 11 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )

KANLen09 - Dec 11, 2020

117 by chronicwebemo »»
Feb 14, 3:45 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login