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Nov 24, 2019 8:35 AM

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Phos has been through more than anyone should ever be.

Nov 24, 2019 8:52 AM

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I don't even remember how phos used to look in the beginning, I feel really sorry for what phos has been through.

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Nov 24, 2019 8:59 AM

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Poor Bort, getting so much unnecessary hate from Diamond.

It looks like things are headed for a Phos vs. Cinnabar showdown.

Nov 24, 2019 9:03 AM

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Phos is now a monster

Nov 24, 2019 11:05 AM

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Well, that's it. Phos is too far gone now and I really can't see this "kill all the gems" plan working at all. The Earth gems are way stronger than Phos and co, even with the lunarian army there to help them this is basically suicide. Unless Phos is actually not at all insane and has some grand scheme to unravel.

Nov 24, 2019 3:27 PM

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Having to read this like once a month really tests my memory since theres all types of new gems or gems looking different from what I remember and just seeing Phos, as she is the only one I really remember go all psychotic and have hundreds of years go by with all of the earth gems remembering her as a bad person (gem) hurts me since I can alrighty see most of her plan failing since its a 4 vs (insert gems on earth) and the ones on earth are most likely stronger than the 4 with the Lunatarian army....

I just hope some good can happen to Phoso cause she’s been suffering for so long and hopefully seeing Cinnabar brings some type of sense to her or vice versa

Nov 24, 2019 3:35 PM

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I hate all those ungrateful bitches. Phos took a serious hit for 200 years and never even got a thanks for effort. And now, none of them even seem to care or remember why they came to the moon in the first place. I hope Phos kills them all.

"Are you intoxicated, or just insane?"

Nov 24, 2019 6:46 PM

Frosum

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Dia really got me this chapter, I did not expect those choice words for Bortz from them.

Good spooky Phos making concrete story progression finally, though.

Nov 24, 2019 9:54 PM

Bakauii

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Phos has finally regained sanity a little and the moon gems are actually listening to phos. I didnt want the earth gems to die but after seeing cinnabar and their spoiled life on earth i never wanted something to perish more. Lets make this clear, ive never cared about cinnabar since the start of the story. So i wont be affected if they die it would just be a little sad. Other than that this was a great chapter

BakauiiNov 24, 2019 9:58 PM

Nov 24, 2019 11:32 PM

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Modernoir

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Looks like we're at the start of the endgame honestly. God damn, Phos... Look at how much you've changed, it's so surreal looking at Phos from the first chapter and comparing them to how they are now. Fuck I'm ready for more suffering.

Nov 25, 2019 1:28 AM

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.I dont know what to say but I want to participate, so, I want Phos to kill everyone because she is the protagonist and im cheering for her, in the other hand, didnt she just become part of the lunarians and restarted the circle of life and death we've seen before? Looking at their plan, they will just fail and we'll se one more period of recover, like, they themselves dont really have a reason to fight, but they cant just stop and talk now either... just qanted a happy ending, but I guess we will see a very melancolic ending like adamant living alone or commiting... even recovering everygem from dust... the possibilities arent big anymore..

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Nov 28, 2019 9:17 AM

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Surafd

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Wow Im really surprised by how Phos just wants to.... genocide all the gems

Dec 11, 2019 4:11 PM

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ReedSylvier

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edit: i can't find anymore accessible chapters at this time that's why

I don't know what to think anymore, i'm not going to support Phos anymore because there doesn't seem to be anything of them left, the protagonist we knew is gone and they're going to pull some other gems down with them out of obligation to a gem that can only change. I don't know how the central theme of identity is going to play into this anymore, Phos is destroyed. Others have changed or shattered while trying, the others on earth stagnate or shatter from the impact of change, and all of them having to live with that state for 200 years, some managed, others really didn't, and there doesn't seem to be any solution, either some godly influence swoops in and fixes everything (which would invalidate what they've learnt), they take the 'it was all a dream' route or a mix of those 2 (which, i suppose? could work if they make revolutionary discoveries of lore for the readers), or everyone and everything dies, like Prince Acheomus or something guy said, everything that derived from human, even the bone and flesh, gets somehow prayed away OR smashed to un-fixable dust...then all that will be left will be minerals, grass, and jellyfish..
i can't see a happy end, i can't see any conclusion that will give any meaning that what has occurred at all ...

Dec 19, 2019 4:54 PM

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I still hope that it's all a part of Phos becoming more human or something and coming out on top in the end. This dark side of Phos is nevertheless a part of being human. Phos have experienced many more different aspects to personality than other characters, and there was a point of her retaining all those memories, so she must be the most human of them all. It's a long shot though

I would have higher hopes if the author didn't make her so stereotypically villainous inside and out lately

Dec 25, 2019 5:39 PM

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Honestly, in this manga I went from liking everyone to only like Phos (and my boy Barbata of course)

I wouldn't mind if Phos completely turns villain and insane and I'd still have their back tbh, all the other gems are so ungrateful towards them

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Jan 8, 2020 2:57 PM

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Zoushu

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I struggle with remembering many of the characters too.

I hope they can talk this out, which didn't work last time. The Earth gems have mostly forgotten about Phos and such, if I've understood the situation correctly, so that could be good. Shame Phos has other plans.

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Jun 22, 2020 12:09 AM

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Yslkei

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Currently im punching the air because of this chapter

Apr 15, 2021 12:45 PM

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Damn how did everyone turn out like this, there were already some sparks beforee but now the characters have gone off rails. cinnabar is the only one, just complete cinnabar's promise.

Aug 19, 2022 3:50 PM

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RenounceSetr

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Out of all of Phos's bad plans, this one's gotta be the worst yet. Seems more like it's the Prince's plan, anyway.

One interesting thing I noticed on page 106: Phos is in the shape of one of those "sinner" ice floes that Antarc introduced Phos to back in the first winter arc. Could all those ice floes be the souls, or even bones/bodies, of past Gems who followed Phos's path of Lunarian cooperation? Could it be that the feud between Kongo and the Lunarians has been going on for far before the birth of even Red Crystal, and that this cycle has played out again and again throughout the history of Kongo's land of Gems?

May 9, 2024 8:36 PM

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Rhae

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I want my cute and adorable Phos back...

@Bdiah Sorry if I made you feel that way.

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May 16, 2024 1:06 PM

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I want my cute and adorable Phos back...

@Bdiah Sorry if I made you feel that way.

@Rhae I know... This chapter was horrifying. It hard to look at the cover image of the manga after reading this. Phos looks so happy and cheerful. Even your forum avatar disturbs me as a reminder of how she was.

Jun 18, 2024 12:27 PM

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Amatsukaze24

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Phos has gone insane :(

Dec 24, 2024 1:11 AM

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i really think this might be the last stand for phos. shes failed like 3 times already so i really hope something happens

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