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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- good old temporary friends pact... what could possibly wrong? >looking at history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact  |
KumaMar 1, 2019 12:35 AM
 "If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on." |
| These demons have some terrifying designs. 10/10 tongue action. |
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| Seems like Norman isn't as naive as Emma, hopefully they won't fuck up his plan. |
| Good to see Wits being displayed. Both sides look to backstab the other. |
| I am voting humans come on top. Seems like most Demon are just bad. |
Tempus36 said: Okay, wait a minute. This thing with ,,degeneration" is getting more bizzare as it goes on. First: it seems that demons can maintain their highest form by eating other demons that are already in this form Second: Norman said before that in fastest case 6 months would be enough for a demon to completely degenerate Third: this noble house was banished 700 years (!) ago and still nothing Fourth: it seems that ,,degeneration" doesn't concern some of the demons (Mujika & Sung-Joo) Fifth: even though they are ,,noble house" somehow their degeneration went further than simple common demons depicted in chapter 102 This shit is making even lesss sense as we go along, especially since Giran didn't correct Norman as to ,,degeneration" issue so in some capacity it seems to be true. Author explain. Please. Yeah demons can absorb the dna of other evoluted demons, it makes sense. A demon degenerates in six monts if it eats low quality food. Besides, there was nowhere stated that those demons didn't eat human flesh for 700 years. Quite the contrary in fact (when Norman talks about their shortage as of late - it means that the demons can rarely eat humans and maintain at least their intellect. They are probably the cattle raiders introduced in the story a while back). In chapter 102, common demons are in fact eating human meat, but is the low quality one. The demons of that clan manage to eat human flesh that they steal from the farms, plus whatever animal they find. So of course their aspect is a mess, with all that mixed dna from different species. |
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| Impressive design of the demons. Interesting deal, though the fact that thy don't trust each other is beyond obvious. Norman's plan seems to be going well for now. |
 "Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
| Loved the fact that the alliance is only superficial, and Norman sure changed in these few years. |
| It's difficult. At the very least now we know Norman is not the baddies. We also know that the pact will get messed up later. Norman promised Giran to be the new king of demon world. While Emma who prefer a "peaceful" way will may later reside an alliance on the current king who is literally called "You Know Who". A lot of unanswered questions such as demon maintaining its form. Norman is maybe partially correct or completely wrong about it or even he just bluffed/lied about 6 months duration toward form degeneration when he told Emma and co. Lots lots of questions... Btw 10/10 for that licking blood scene... LOL |
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| so emma has a kind heart and soul...this never changes but the world which both species can exist is highly unlikely....i don't know if they can find a way for it....if they don't then i am on the *kill demons all the way* side :D |
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| BASED Norman bringing the mind games back on the table. Now we just need Ray to join the game. |
| I feel that Emma is going to fuck it up |
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| One of the few animes that have enticed me enough to read through the entire manga. I've binged up to this chapter in an exhausting four days, but I'm glad to say I don't regret it. Norman's plan seems to be pretty well-founded; after all, even Jung-Soo doesn't have the right incentive—only Musica seemingly does. He plans to kill the demons in a rational method while still sticking to Emma's original ideal. Speaking of Emma, she's growing massively on my nerves. Her naivety is beyond comprehension: I'm moreover starting to see her become a hassle dragging out the story. As cruel as it sounds, I'm hoping a certain crisis or event helps alter her view, even if only slightly. |
AmazingElephant said: Not to be that guy but I feel like Norman is lying about a lot of things? Like he says that demons need humans to feast on humans but what about that one religious group of demons? Do they feast on dead humans or body parts to maintain their shape? Or are they slowly becoming more animal like? Not only so but I wonder if Norman is really William Minerva, like that doesn’t add up at all. Norman's personality completely changed and same with his appearance while no one from grace field has changed that much at all. But then again he probably has been eating better than everyone else and getting the growth he needed as a teenage boy. He could be lying to Emma and pretending that he’s Norman or something. Maybe he’s a clone of Norman? Or he’s actually William Minerva but he’s pretending to be Norman to gain her trust. Then again I can be just overthinking things here. Overall I have no trust in Norman but the war against Cattle and Demons was bound to happen. That's quite a fine point; however, it's been clearly stated that the original William Minerva had aged considerably and even offered a choice to the Cattle Children in his original recording before being betrayed. It wouldn't make sense for him to change his perspective this rapidly—but given humanity's current technology, I would say it's entirely plausible that human cloning exists. |
xShinigami3125 said: Seems like Norman isn't as naive as Emma, hopefully they won't fuck up his plan. Norman isn't naive since the beginning, he just like emma so much so he want her to get what she want. but he can change after be guinea pig on that experiment farm. |
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gadboyz said: xShinigami3125 said: Seems like Norman isn't as naive as Emma, hopefully they won't fuck up his plan. Norman isn't naive since the beginning, he just like emma so much so he want her to get what she want. but he can change after be guinea pig on that experiment farm. Yea, but he was willing to follow Emma's "let's take everyone with us" plan, even tho like ray he knew that, that would reduce their survival chances drastically. |
xShinigami3125 said: gadboyz said: Norman isn't naive since the beginning, he just like emma so much so he want her to get what she want. but he can change after be guinea pig on that experiment farm. Yea, but he was willing to follow Emma's "let's take everyone with us" plan, even tho like ray he knew that, that would reduce their survival chances drastically. Yes. Because love is blind. But its the first arc. I think he is different now. He didn't even ask Emma opinion about current plan like what he usually did in the first arc |
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| Also i like how a lot reply above really hate on emma now. While i am still waiting because there is a reason why the author give her that position (didn't want to massacre demon), remember she is TPN protagonist. |
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| Demons designs are amazing as usual. Also Norman has always been less naive than Emma and he has an IQ above 1000, or so it seems. Above anyone else he is the true King. Brilliant and cold. A true Czar. |
| I'm still hoping that Musica's religion is what prevents the degeneration and by converting the majority of demons to it, Emma's vision would be possible. The first time we learned that the demons need humans to keep their form that was my theory, that the religion teaches/gives them some mental power to keep their shape or something like that. It's a fiction so everything is possible. That is the only way I can think of to make Emma's ideals to come true. I think she'll be against growing high quality humans for consumtion in vitro as Norman proposed because she'll say "IT IS STILL HUMAN FLESH" or something like that I expect it. Anyway I hope Norman's plan works in one way or another, he's my fav character from the start and I was happy to see him back. I am glad that he didn't turn evil as I was expecting. |
| My man Norman is a savage. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
tyarados said: I don't know what to comment about this chapter, I just hope no one is going to die anymore especially Norman himself :( while everyone is hating on Emma, I kinda agree with her. what if there are more demons like Musika and Sungjoo, or demons who are willing to stop eating humans. Killing them would be as bad as farming human children. I hope Emma and Ray meet Norman as soon as possible. I wouldn't say they are hating, it's more like this plan is too serious for any mistakes to be made during the crucial parts of it. |
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| Norman calling himself James Ratri lol. Not sure if it's just the translation, seems like on the same page he also tells Giran the turtle/crocodile scales demon he's Minerva. I can't remember if Emma was told Musica's religion allows its followers to eat wild humans so that's yet another thing to deal with. And ok, yeah seems the demons can eat each other to prevent degeneration. |
| Norman masterfully manipulated the disgraced Giran Clan into agreeing to wage war against the other Royal Families with the intention of having them wipe out each other in a civil war without the participation of any of the children whatsoever. I didn't like Norman tricking them at first but now that I've seen that they plan to turn their back at him the moment they've won, I say to hell with it~ |
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| Glad to see Norman knows what he's doing, although I feel like Emma is going to fuck it up |
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That was some good fucking stuff man. I love that they're both aware of each others goals and ambitions and wary of their powers to an extent. I also like that this was all shown in one single chapter without an annoying cliffhanger.  This was so fucking creepy. Amazing stuff. |
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