| The constant "pervert" gags are driving me up the wall in this otherwise excellent shounen series. Why have a show with great female characters if you're just going to trash all progress every two episodes or so with a gross delve into Mineta's perverted antics? We get it, he's a huge pervert. That's literally his entire character. Hilarious. I'm so fed up with it, and it shouldn't still be taking up screen time all the way into season 3. I just about nearly skipped the first episode of the new season. Mineta is ruining this show. He's not funny or cute, and not even "harmless" like other "perverted anime boy" archetypes. He's a straight up malicious sex offender in training, and extremely annoying to boot. But of course I get called prude if I try to discuss this anywhere else, since men absolutely love defending Mineta. Seriously. He just really bothers me! They should cut him from the show entirely; it would be so much better. |
| I agree but also - the problem of bnha is not only Mineta. I mean, it's not like the author was forced to create him, he even admits in the manga that Mineta is his self-insert. So we probably won't see him expelled from the hero course... Even though I wholeheartedly support hopes of the fandom that he will be replaced in 1A class by Shinsou one day (Shinsou is my fave). Generally, the author of bnha has a problem of sexualisation of female characters, Yaoyorozu's costume is completely unnecessary, she's 16 yo, it could be redesigned to reveal her skin but not sexualise her like this. Add the onsen scenes, cheerleadering, the fact that adult female heroes are forced to construct their image mostly on the basis of their sex appeal - bnha is nowhere near to being an excellent show. Also, the instances of transphobia are worth mentioning. The guy from pussycats is canonically a trans man (his character profile mentions "he was originally a woman but took a trip to thailand") and yet is treated as joke bc he's in a feminine team and gets - "oho he confused his gender" comments. And a canonical trans woman is in a villain team and SPOILERS she gets killed in the end so ughhhh no thanks for this inclusivity. |
| Oh wow, what a complete train wreck. Yikes! Mineta as his self-insert certainly explains a lot about how this show handles women. That's so gross. Trans characters used solely as a joke in anime is the worst... I might just drop this show! |
| It is a decent shounen to pass the time, I'm up-to-date with the manga somehow, and I like some of the character designs a lot... but yeah I don't trust the author at all, and I'm far from praising him. btw speaking of good shounens I wanted to recommend hunter x hunter and mob psycho 100 to you, but I see you dropped mp100 after 1st ep...oh well. You can't really say it's boring and uninspired if you have no idea about basic conflicts in it - -" at least you could give it a chance till 4-5 ep, teru arc completely bought me into it. I dislike one punch man too, but mp100 is my fave manga, they're completely different in tone. |
SteppenfuchsApr 29, 2018 1:02 PM
| Returning to bnha - in the recent anime episode while a female hero had her face smashed in, the main harm was the fact that destroying her face makes her plans to get married futile, and she deserves "to find her happiness as a woman". I really hate when anime frames women in their 20s/30s like that. |
| I've heard awesome things about HxH and have been meaning to watch it for a long time. Would you recommend the old one or the new one first? Yeah, I'm pretty quick to drop anime that don't seem interesting to me, but I might give Mob Psycho another shot. Or maybe I'll try the manga first. It keeps showing up on my Twitter feed! THAT WAS SUCH BS!! Can't they just acknowledge that she's gorgeous on her own for herself without making it about pleasing men??? I am this close to dropping BNHA lol. |
pentmo said: I've heard awesome things about HxH and have been meaning to watch it for a long time. Would you recommend the old one or the new one first? I think only the version from 2011 is worth watching bc people talk only about it anyway... it adapts most of the manga and does it faithfully, so you can just jump after it to reading (I'm not reading the manga rn though personally bc hiatuses tired me and THESE WALLS OF TEXT. hxh is much more digestible as an anime) |
pentmo said: I've heard awesome things about HxH and have been meaning to watch it for a long time. Would you recommend the old one or the new one first? Defs watch the 2011 one first. But go back and watch the older one afterwards if you want. There's a bit of stuff in there not in the 2011 one that helps add a bit to some of the characters. |
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| @pentmo If you haven't watched HxH yet, I'd recommend reading the first chapter then watching the anime. The 2011 adaptation is mostly good but it leaves out Gon's backstory/intro which becomes relevant later. (Also 99 does Yorknew Arc way better imo. HxH 2011 is a good adaptation overall, but it's bad at dedicating its time to characters who aren't Gon and Killua when it's their turn to shine.) |
| Mineta is really a big problem when I'm enjoying BNHA. Today's episode for example, one of my favorite characters from the manga was finally introduced in the anime (it's Nejire), and the way Mineta thought about her and talked about her sexually harassing him was just. Ugh. I just forgot how he acted in the manga because it just arruined the whole feeling of being introduced to such a potentially strong and inspiring female character (I mean, she's part of the Big Three!). Mineta aside, Horikoshi himself has a poor portrayal of his female characters, even his heroine and one of the protagonists (Uraraka Ochako) is often forgotten through the series and I have the feeling she's being reduced to her crush on Izuku, there is no actual development for her as a character just the fact that she has a crush on him. And, well. I will not even quote the Yaomomo issue. Or Hagakure. It's annoying and frustrating just to think about it. Phew. It's honestly very good to talk about it openly without being bashed by men who support this kind of behaviour. ^^ |
shinotshin said: Mineta aside, Horikoshi himself has a poor portrayal of his female characters, even his heroine and one of the protagonists (Uraraka Ochako) is often forgotten through the series and I have the feeling she's being reduced to her crush on Izuku, there is no actual development for her as a character just the fact that she has a crush on him. Yeah, it saddens me how Ochako became a one-note character. She had a strong beginning with her goal and her fight vs. Bakugo but now she exists mostly for "Deku is so determined & smart/I want to be like Deku"/ *blushing* |
Steppenfuchs said: shinotshin said: Mineta aside, Horikoshi himself has a poor portrayal of his female characters, even his heroine and one of the protagonists (Uraraka Ochako) is often forgotten through the series and I have the feeling she's being reduced to her crush on Izuku, there is no actual development for her as a character just the fact that she has a crush on him. Yeah, it saddens me how Ochako became a one-note character. She had a strong beginning with her goal and her fight vs. Bakugo but now she exists mostly for "Deku is so determined & smart/I want to be like Deku"/ *blushing* Exactly! She had so much potential and it just went downhill. I mean, there is still time for Horikoshi to try to change this mess, but I don't think he will. I have a feeling that he will just develop his male characters and maintain the female ones for the sake of the boys' development (and the girls' development will depend on their feelings towards the male characters, I mean, it's kind of obvious). Though I really hope I am wrong and the author will, somehow, give proper attention to the female cast. |
| Damn, you guys are making me want to skip HeroAca. I've only seen the first episode, and thought it had promise as a sort of Anime Watchmen Lite, but if it dumps that hard on trans people and sucks that hard at writing women, I don't think it's worth watching. I had a similar problem with Hajime no Ippo's Takamura. While he certainly isn't presented as ideal or glamorous, the fact remains that Takamura is a goddamned sexual predator who straight up sneaks up on his friend while he's having sex in the dark, then gropes his friend's girlfriend. The show never takes this seriously. He gets chewed out a bit by his friends, but they're still his friends. Ippo's never exactly been a great series for female characterization and it's got some mildly homophobic humor as well, but the characterization and fight scenes are goddamned beautiful and it's really a shame Takamura is bringing down the entire series. |
| "Bang." -Spike Spiegal "Everything... is connected." -Lain Iwakura "Life is too short to watch bad anime. Long Live the 1st Episode Drop." -InkSpider "Anime fans make me embarrassed to be an anime fan." -InkSpider |
| Regardng the transphobia, I think Horikoshi intended the trans characters to be positive. I think he had good intentions, especially since Magne's allies stand up for her gender and the Villain Alliance in general talks about minority groups and the place they have in society. It gives me the impression the INTENT is good. I just do... not think they're handled properly or done well. |
| I'm glad it's not just me, Mineta really drags the whole series down and has been a big part of why I haven't gotten invested in the series. I love the character designs and I love so many of the characters but Mineta works as a reminder for me that the series has it's fault and the undertones of sexism are still there even if we ignore that gross little grape. Like, how do you get half of the way there with interesting characters and a superhero premise and then fall back into one-note stereotypes? It sucks because it wasn't always that way. |
| I just find Mineta annoying. I can't even take him seriously enough to hate him. He's too incompetent. |
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