| Slight spoilers for Monogatari, but not even I know what I'm spoiling. So I was looking through the Bakemonogatari wiki the other day, and I found out about an Off Season novel, Musubimonogatari- and in that novel, apparently Araragi, Hitagi and Tsubasa are 23 years old. The only thing the wiki says is that Araragi joins the Police force and both Hitagi and Tsubasa aren't in town at that time (I didn't read it, and I have no idea what it all entails), but what's interesting is the age. In Boukyaku Tantei, both Yakusuke and Okitegami Kyouko are 25 years old, and Yakusuke explicitly states that he met her 2 years ago (which would make them both 23). I don't think this is a coincidence whatsoever. So either NisiOisiN is trolling us with false information, or this is a direct clue to the theory that Okitegami Kyouko is Tsubasa Hanekawa. Whenever we get to watch or read Musubimonogatari, pay close attention to Hanekawa's dialogue, if she's even in it. That said, look for small clues that might nod back to details emphasized in Monogatari, in the future of the Boukyaku Tantei series. |
| I like the way when Yakusuke asks her "do you know who the suspect is?" And Kyoko replies "yes, but its only presumption!" It reminded me the way Hanekawa solves the case and finds out about Sodachi's mother's death. Would be cool if they are indeed same person |
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XaiKun said: I like the way when Yakusuke asks her "do you know who the suspect is?" And Kyoko replies "yes, but its only presumption!" It reminded me the way Hanekawa solves the case and finds out about Sodachi's mother's death. Would be cool if they are indeed same person It's not only that! Like there are so many similarities in how they both speak, though I can't give you any specific examples right now. Some of them might be in the chapter discussions, but I digress; that said, I think the biggest similarity is that everyone, especially Yakusuke, looks up to Kyouko the same way everyone did Hanekawa. Also, a big thing about Hanekawa was that although she knew what she knew, and she can tell you the answer quick- in the long run, she really knew nothing. Back to Sodachi's case in Owarimonogatari, she was forced to rely not on her knowledge, but on her critical thinking skills to solve it, and she had to in under ten seconds. If Hanekawa kept challenging those skills, then she could well become the fastest detective, especially when she has a limited knowledge of the present day, thanks to her forgetfulness, whatever that is caused by. And it would also be cool since Araragi becomes a cop that deals with aberrations, so Hanekawa becoming the fastest detective just makes sense. Araragi is the fake (protector of justice) and Hanekawa is the real thing, so the development also makes sense from a narrative standpoint. Also, I looked up more on Musubimonogatari, and apparently, according to one of the wiki users, Hanekawa becomes a "well-known activist with an erased past". I swear, it's like NisiOisiN is dangling a catfish in our faces- if he isn't doing this on purpose, then I would be more surprised than I was at the end of Monogatari Second Season... ;( |
| Guess we are the only few people reading this Manga/LN. People are not interested.. since a lot of stories exist where the MC suffers with Amnesia. The only twist here is that the MC here is also a detective. I was mainly interested in this because 1)Author 2)Good characters 4)Somewhat romance 3)Main character looks/feels like Hanekawa from Monogatari series. Wish i could read Japanese so I wouldn't have to rely on translators |
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XaiKun said: Guess we are the only few people reading this Manga/LN. People are not interested.. since a lot of stories exist where the MC suffers with Amnesia. The only twist here is that the MC here is also a detective. I was mainly interested in this because 1)Author 2)Good characters 4)Somewhat romance 3)Main character looks/feels like Hanekawa from Monogatari series. Wish i could read Japanese so I wouldn't have to rely on translators True. Wait, the MC isn't a detective... or are you talking about Kyouko? Not much of a twist though. Not many people would think much of this series at all if Nisio wasn't attached to it. This series really does hold up on its own though- which is something I can tell after reading the volume and watching some of the drama adaptation. Tried to explain it's own merits in my review without getting attached to Nisio's name, but that alone isn't going to attract too many people... I really wish I knew Japanese too... Well, you are the first person I got to talk to about Okitegami Kyouko- I thank you. Just going to sit here and wait for another chapter to get translated... |
| That would be awesome. The funny thing is, in the Boukyaku Tantei Series PV Hanekawa and Kyouko shared the same voice actress, coincidence? Here's the link: https://youtu.be/mYXusSjThKk |
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Eromanga-sensei said: That would be awesome. The funny thing is, in the Boukyaku Tantei Series PV Hanekawa and Kyouko shared the same voice actress, coincidence? Technically they shared the same voice actress because Hanekawa was "cosplaying" Okitegami Kyouko. But it only strengthened the theories. The trailer is basically Araragi looking everywhere and asking everyone if they'd seen Hanekawa until the big reveal where Hanekawa was the one dressed up as Okitegami and announced to everyone to read the darn thing. It convinced me, that's for sure. |
| I just like the thought that she could be Hanekawa. She reminded me of Hanekawa after I saw the cover of vol. 1 for the first time and that nisio is the author. |
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| That would be cool if it's indeed the case. How about that editor guy in the Tantei series(The guy who says he thought he had seen Kyouko in a foreign land). Hanekawa did in fact traveled around the world too. Ain't he got mention somewhere in that Musubimonogatari or in some other series? |
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Zaphkiel_El_Rem said: That would be cool if it's indeed the case. How about that editor guy in the Tantei series(The guy who says he thought he had seen Kyouko in a foreign land). Hanekawa did in fact traveled around the world too. Ain't he got mention somewhere in that Musubimonogatari or in some other series? Actually, I think that would be in Wazamonogatari (Tsubasa Sleeping), if anything. Well, I don't think he'd make a direct appearance, but since we know that the editor saw Okitegami or someone who looked like her a few years back, (when she was around 18, I believe) it should fit perfectly with when Tsubasa traveled the world to look for Oshino. I don't remember the specifics of the encounter that the editor mentioned in the first novel, nor have I read anything from the Off Season, so I can't really confirm anything. |
Eromanga-sensei said: I just like the thought that she could be Hanekawa. She reminded me of Hanekawa after I saw the cover of vol. 1 for the first time and that nisio is the author. I think that's true for everyone to be honest. I actually want this to be Hanekawa more than there's actual evidence, despite all the clues that Nisio left us already! I mean, it's awesome (and possibly crushing), and especially hearing about the future for the characters in Monogatari (and the idea that it may be ending) I want spin-offs for them just to keep seeing more! Also, like I said somewhere in this post, the development from one series to another makes logical sense for Hanekawa, with maybe just one mystery of how she got there in between. And I love stories, or universes, that can span multiple genres and still make logical sense- that's a big reason why I love Monogatari to begin with. Going on bit of a tangent here, there's a possibility that Aikawa Jun from the Zaregoto series may also appear, thanks to that hint in Chapter 3. This makes me think that Nisio might be trying to slowly show us how his cinematic universe is connected one series at a time, but that's just a theory, and one I can't really prove as of yet. That said, I have a feeling that Nisio is playing with that ambiguity in ways we don't know of yet, so he can troll us with something when the time comes. At any rate, I just like the idea that Okitegami Kyouko is Hanekawa Tsubasa. |
xFresh11 said: Quick question about LN : is there at least One illustrations like in Monogatari Series?? becouse VOFAN is drawing this series and i cant find any illustrations,just volume cover soo if somebody could answer me Just covers. Even so, that's nothing new for NisiOisiN/ VOFAN works. Monogatari just had the cover illustration and like one inside of it too. |
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