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Feb 22, 2017 1:31 AM

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Hajinnie said:
Thanks to everyone on reddit and their speculations, I could see that royalty revelation coming from a mile away. I still was surprised to see Mauve tell that to Jean directly though.


On MAL it was as soon as ep2, so it was "from a mile away" too. But with source material out there, it was probable something like that would happen.
Feb 22, 2017 3:27 AM
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Last week episode was quite confusing for me but I am glad that this week cleared it up a bit!
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Feb 22, 2017 4:46 AM

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The hints about Jean being royalty are out from the very first episode, when someone gave some very convincing explanation of the crown symbolism in the opening credits (I still wish that was placed within spoiler tags).

Even though I learned about the twist from the very beginning, I could never get used to the idea and I was half-wishing it's not the case. I can see how it's a perfect explanation why people are so interested in pulling Jean into the coup mess, but it's still a bit too soap-opera material for me...

Now the least I could hope for is that Jean does NOT inherit the throne. I'd rather he continue living an easy-going life with Lotta and Nino. I don't see him giving his support to the coup at all, especially now that we see that Schwann is not that much of an idiot there's a possibility that the status quo can go on (the coup fails and the monarchy will continue).
Feb 22, 2017 4:46 AM

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I knew it! After the sight of that framework, in the previous episode, I sensed that there was something intriguing tied to essso, and now, after they showed the face of the person portrayed in photomontages, I was clear from the start the situation of sister Jean, but my eyes had not seen well, not caring of that Otus, then, to discover that he is a nobleman was a nice twist, because I had the immediacy of revelation, a revelation and I correlated many events still shrouded in mystery. Slow and measured pace to the narrative, but the intriguing thing is to see how the main character now, is an integral part of the story, being part of the advocate of them. I love how the plot, again, shows new characters and different contexts, makes dynamic history. I wonder if all the foods shown in this anime series, also exist in reality, however, I always very hungry at the end of episode.
Feb 22, 2017 5:47 AM

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Jean is royalty?!
Feb 22, 2017 6:03 AM

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Oh boy, that was something I didn't see coming, he being Royal? I wonder what impact does have the coup d' etat with that revelation right now, things are getting even better right now
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Feb 22, 2017 10:45 AM
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OMG, Jean is ROYALTY, theory confirmed. It does make sense as the last episode gave us a lot of hints. Mauve and Jean have an oh-so-good chemistry....

Also, it seems like there's more to Nino than what meets the eye. He may be related to Abend, the Princess's gaurd.

The king seems to know about Jean's identity.

I JUST CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT EPISODE!!!
Feb 23, 2017 12:53 AM

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I had vague suspicions, they all blonds and Jean and his sis look a lot like the girl in the portrait, but to think it's actually true... and he's first in the line to the throne to boot... Nino is his personal guard basically since every member of the royal family seems to have one of about the same age as them attached for life, so now his mentioning that he's been watching Jean for 30 years makes sense. As well as his calling Lotta "Princess" once before and his obeying Jean's order to take Lotta to dine every night and answering it like a soldier. I'm wondering how many people know Jean is actually the crown prince.

It's obvious that Jean and Lotta's parents were the 2nd princess and that personal guard of hers. They staged their deaths in a ship incident to live like ordinary people, possibly because they couldn't marry normally due to the huge difference in the social status, and had 2 children before dying in the train accident at Rokkusu's border. The mother's name was Schnee, which circumstantially proves that she was a member of the royal family because the stupid official prince's name is Schwan, so it looks like normally the royalty's names start with 'sch'. Jean and Lotta also inherited the king's love for smoking and sweets respectively.

I also assume that the king has been grooming Jean to be his successor for a long time, pulling strings to make him work in Inspection dept specifically because it forces him to travel all across the country and get to know each district, their problems and their people firsthand, building his knowledge and experience to be a wise ruler. And well, it's obvious that Jean makes a much better king than that stupid prince can ever be, in any case.

So now this is getting really interesting. If the show doesn't drop the ball till the end, it'll be 9/10 for me.
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Feb 23, 2017 5:45 AM

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First of all, I might be missing something but why there is need for coup d'etat again? Isn't king going to retire sooner or later given his old age?

Anyways, it was good episode. Everyone saw the connection coming but despite all that, it retains its interesting and mysterious trait.
I love how the revelations made in the show so far wasn't made dramatic of any sort but as more calm and natural with the flow of events.
Feb 23, 2017 8:58 AM

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First of all, I might be missing something but why there is need for coup d'etat again? Isn't king going to retire sooner or later given his old age?
The coup would occur if Schwan (the brainless prince) were to take the throne. Because he's a goddamn moron who declared that he was going to abolish a few most important government institutions including but not limited to ACCA the moment he ascended to the throne. He doesn't understand jack about the country and how delicate the balance holding it together is, and he doesn't even try to understand. That arrogant prick is absolutely incapable of ruling a country or holding it together.

As I understand, the king isn't going to retire until he deems Jean ready to take his place, and that moment is approaching, I guess.
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Feb 23, 2017 10:47 AM

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CG said:
FinalFlash18 said:
First of all, I might be missing something but why there is need for coup d'etat again? Isn't king going to retire sooner or later given his old age?
The coup would occur if Schwan (the brainless prince) were to take the throne. Because he's a goddamn moron who declared that he was going to abolish a few most important government institutions including but not limited to ACCA the moment he ascended to the throne. He doesn't understand jack about the country and how delicate the balance holding it together is, and he doesn't even try to understand. That arrogant prick is absolutely incapable of ruling a country or holding it together.

As I understand, the king isn't going to retire until he deems Jean ready to take his place, and that moment is approaching, I guess.

I see. I always thought it was against the current king.
Feb 23, 2017 1:39 PM

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I love how the Kororē district is basically Paris. The buildings, the subway, the cafés... Everything looks like Paris. They should just have named the district "France" or something like that.
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Feb 23, 2017 1:46 PM

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So much build up, but the revelation turns out anti-climatic... I bet the one giving Nino's orders is Otus dad, his probably the landlord from their building too.
Feb 24, 2017 12:15 PM

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I'm not sure yet if that development is a good thing or not, let's see.



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Feb 24, 2017 6:25 PM
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was expected Jean & Lotta are royalty, but surprising he's first in line, gives a big twist with the framed position of coup mediator. 33 year boat wreck eh?
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Nino's real boss, still waiting, probably also royalty or that missing guard.
Feb 25, 2017 10:40 AM

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there is just one question in my mind . How old is jean 33 years ago he was at least 9-10 y old now over 40 he and her sister looks like in 20s
Feb 25, 2017 11:03 AM
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Very big revealing episode!

That last Nino's conversation with his boss, saying that the boss doesn't have time to consult with Privy Council President Qualm, pretty much confirms that Nino's boss is the king.

Also, after learning that Jean is a Royalty, I want back and re-watched all the past episodes and noticed something interesting.

- The princess guard is said to have white beautiful hair, this description appears to be similar to Cheif Officer Grossular.
- Grossular mentioned that Rokkusu residents have good eyes.
- Jean appears to have pretty good eyes also, being able to notice things normal people won't be able to such as being watched from afar
- In the flashback in ep6, Grossular seemed to be staring into Jean, as if wanting to say something, but couldn't

From the above observation, I assume that the princess guard was Grossular's brother (or son) or something, so Jean and Grossular are related by blood, and Grossular is probably working with the king to set up Jean as the next successor to the throne by spreading words about Coup d'etat.


Berserkerhealer said:
there is just one question in my mind . How old is jean 33 years ago he was at least 9-10 y old now over 40 he and her sister looks like in 20s


Nino has been looking over Jean for 30 years, so Jean is probably 30 years old, and wasn't born yet 33 years ago when the princess and the guard eloped. His parents died 13 years ago, so he was probably 20 at that time.
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Alright everyone is ... misunderstanding. Jean is around 30 years, while Lotta is ~20. If you use the slightest logic here, you will uncover the bare truth that both the Guard and the Princess did not die in the accident 33 years ago. Nino... simply can not be Abend the Guard for obvious reasons. Like his age, at least. The Princess and the Guard died 13 years ago when the train crashed. For Jean to be older than 33 years (though he looks 20 here, but it is the bad fairy-tail character design here) he would have needed to be born somewhat prior to the accident 33 years ago, and no one would allow that while the Princess was a part of the royalty.
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Feb 25, 2017 11:12 AM
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Very big revealing episode!

That last Nino's conversation with his boss, saying that the boss doesn't have time to consult with Privy Council President Qualm, pretty much confirms that Nino's boss is the king.

Also, after learning that Jean is a Royalty, I want back and re-watched all the past episodes and noticed something interesting.

- The princess guard is said to have white beautiful hair, this description appears to be similar to Cheif Officer Grossular.
- Grossular mentioned that Rokkusu residents have good eyes.
- Jean appears to have pretty good eyes also, being able to notice things normal people won't be able to such as being watched from afar
- In the flashback in ep6, Grossular seemed to be staring into Jean, as if wanting to say something, but couldn't

From the above observation, I assume that the princess guard was Grossular's brother (or son) or something, so Jean and Grossular are related by blood, and Grossular is probably working with the king to set up Jean as the next successor to the throne by spreading words about Coup d'etat.


Berserkerhealer said:
there is just one question in my mind . How old is jean 33 years ago he was at least 9-10 y old now over 40 he and her sister looks like in 20s


Nino has been looking over Jean for 30 years, so Jean is probably 30 years old, and wasn't born yet 33 years ago when the princess and the guard eloped. His parents died 13 years ago, so he was probably 20 at that time.

Aside the eyes part, which is simply a dialogue detail, irrelevant to the story, the theory of Grossular being Abend's brother is a nice one, while him working with the king is impossible, since Nino is answering BOTH to the King and to Grossular, and that would be unneeded if they all were working together. Why would Grossular keep the sad face one on one with Jean if all he was doing is helping his nephew win the successor vote? Saying "Naive" about Jean also does not contribute to Grossular being pro-Jean.
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Aside the eyes part, which is simply a dialogue detail, irrelevant to the story, the theory of Grossular being Abend's brother is a nice one, while him working with the king is impossible, since Nino is answering BOTH to the King and to Grossular, and that would be unneeded if they all were working together. Why would Grossular keep the sad face one on one with Jean if all he was doing is helping his nephew win the successor vote? Saying "Naive" about Jean also does not contribute to Grossular being pro-Jean.

Oh yeah, I missed that lol. Just rewatched ep3, and can infer that Grossular and the king are not working together, because he didn't know about Qualm keeping his eyes on Jean.

I guess we need to wait for the next episodes to see how much he's involved in this.
Feb 25, 2017 12:35 PM

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Jean is from the royal family, I should have seen it come. That's explain why he can't be transferred.
Once again, it was very interesting. Jean and Nino interactions are great
Feb 27, 2017 1:47 AM

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If anything happens to the prince then Magi will share the same fate. Poor kid.

I got scared for the King's life when Schwan stood next to him and asked him which painting was his favorite.

That girl in the paining looks A LOT like Lotta. OMG. Maybe that's why the prince is interested in her. Rail lowkey trying to photobomb all of Lotta's pictures lol

Jean and Lotta are royalty! D: No wonder the prince is interested. He might kill them now TT__TT
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Mar 2, 2017 12:22 AM

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wow! Jean Otus is the successor to the throne!?!?
4/5.


Mar 5, 2017 8:22 AM
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So as I expected after the first few episodes Nino actually works for several people. I expected it in a different way though.

Jean and his sister are the children of the girl in the picture the current king is always watching. So Jean is the rightful heir to the throne and Nino is Jeans "guard", right? It'd explain why he is watching him for 30 years already(while Jean thinks they know each other since highschool). Now I'm not sure who made Nino follow him but it is either Abend, the guard that disappeared, or a supporter of the king I think.

The whole story just became even more interesting! I hope so much that the brat won't become the next king...
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Coming together like I predicted in the previous thread.

''The incident'' 33 years ago was likely a faked boat accident because Jeans mother had an affair with her guard and got pregnant and this was not proper. They went into hiding (with the kings blessing/help) but then were involved in the real train accident 13 years ago.

The king is Nino/Crows boss and set Crow on Jean early on to be a friend/spy.

Jean has asked multiple times to be reassigned but never allowed to. The King has him in this department because it allows Jean to wander the 13 regions and see for himself what the major issues are.

I think the coup is actually being set up by the King and will involve putting an educated and caring Jean on the throne in front of his brat son.

I believe so too. It would be a good direction for the series to go in, as Jean certainly deserves to succeed the throne.
Mar 29, 2017 8:05 AM

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I never even thought, let alone suspected this kind of twist until this episode when the portrait of the 2nd princess was shown.

Oooohhhh~ I bet the owner of the ritzy building Lotta is managing is the king or that Privy Council president guy. As for Nino, I suppose he was assigned to guard Jean and Lotta after the 2nd princess and her guard ran off and died.
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Apr 25, 2017 5:11 AM

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Whoa Jean is royalty!
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Apr 25, 2017 1:30 PM

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I KNEW IT!!!! I frigging knew Jean was royal blood!!!I could smell it all over since episode 6!!!
The only thing I'm wondering is who is Nino working for, not Grossular but the other. It might be too soon to say is one of the other chiefs but hum hum...
May 11, 2017 10:42 AM

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Nice episode actually, while I really can't stand the slow pacing of this series, the actual development ain't all that bad.
Jun 9, 2017 2:19 AM

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Dat imouto hair down.
lol at Nino's face. He has no eyes.
Pretty girl in the painting.
WTF! Jean is royalty?
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Jun 23, 2017 2:46 AM

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Wow, Jean and Lotta are royalty. Kind of puts a puzzle piece together now, although I find it weird how even Jean didnt know becauseh he's a pretty smart guy.
That boat accident 33 years ago was most likely faked. The second princess must've fell in love with the guard that was mentioned and ran off with him, and then had Jean and Lotta. They must've changed their identities, but ended up actually getting killing in the train accident.
The King might know about it too, unless him asking Jean to come sit with him was just because he's a nice king or he wanted to spend time with him.
Schwan finding out definitely ticked him off now that Jean is in the way of him becoming king and leading out his plans.
Jul 3, 2017 8:37 AM

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Yuuki Aoi's character is way too cute
Help! xD

Yeah no one suspect Jean is royalty
No one
Especially he and his sister are the only "commoner" that have blonde hair
Except for Chief, but he's old, maybe like Jean's parents so didn't count or maybe he's related to them too?
Sureeeeee :P
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Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan i can't deal with this anymore, i know i'm being quite repetitive but for christ sake stop it with the breads and good looking cakes.

(Don't stop i i love it)

This is so chill. Jean is such a chill non-annoying character. How great to find MCs like this.
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Apr 3, 2019 10:49 PM

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Wow so Jean is royalty AND next in line for the throne?? Wild
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Jun 23, 2019 5:32 PM
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Well damn, so Jean has royal blood, and technically he could be the next King now. Interesting development.
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A weird revelation, but things are indeed starting to make some sense with it. No King would invite a commoner to eat with him at the same table, even if it's an inspector from the administrative branch, so that means the King must know about Jean's royal blood. Maybe he knows about Crow/Nino being his "bodyguard"?

Some action could develop between Maybe and Jean, maybe? But there hasn't been much evidence to support that, aside from some comments and the op. It's true that the districts seem to be buying Jean for the coup, but I don't think that he is consciously the middleman, based on what he said before the opening started to play.

Anyway, if Jean indeed is the son of the second princess, that would make him a heir... except that he is a bastard, as his father is probably a commoner. At least that's standard royal law abput the inheritance of the throne, so it would be safe to assume that. Nonetheless, that would mean the only way to put Jean in the throne is by force, by a coup d'etat.

The King doesn't seem to be near his age of retirement, but I wonder what would the counselor think. Is he also a part of the coup?
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Things finally got interesting


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Jun 10, 2023 1:10 AM
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What a twist about Otus being related to royal family, wanna know what's going to happen next!
Sep 14, 2024 1:57 PM

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I'm actually in shock right now. Jean is part of the royal family and has more claim to the throne than the correct prince even Lotta has more claim. 
 
The prince now, of course, feels threatened.

Groshular was definitely the guard Maggie was talking about.
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