| Type 4 Chi-To Equipped with 75mm anti-tank gun and 75mm frontal armor plate, it was the most advanced Japanese tank in WW2, though it couldn't reach to mass production due to industrial and material shortages.  |
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| O-I Ultra Heavy Tank The details of this 150t monster tank had remained unknown for a long time. However in 2015, a president of plastic model company coincidentally discovered the classified papers of the O-I prototype model.  The tank had a 150mm main gun and two 47mm anti-tank guns, along with a heavy machine gun turret. BTW the plastic model maker mentioned before is Fine Molds, who sells Girls und Panzer plastic models. |
kemkemmersJun 27, 2016 3:03 PM
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Nishizumi Manshion [AFV] OH-1 Ninja JGSDF Scout helicopter [Wikipedia link] (on left) [AFV] Grille Ausf.H Self propelled artilery [Wikipedia link] [AFV] Magach 6B Gal Batash [Wikipedia link]. Highly modified version of M60 Patton.  [AFV] Mark I tank. The world's first tank to enter combat. [Wikipedia link] Instructor Ami's souvenir must be [this] sake liquor.  [Weapon] 7.5 cm Pak 40 Anti-tank gun The Ainu carved wooden bear is a popular souvenir from Hokkaido. Here Maho made a big mistake; the souvenir is a specialty food of Ooarai! Or was it on purpose to reunite Nishizumi family? |
kemkemmersJun 27, 2016 8:24 PM
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| [Trivia] My favorite trivia (^ ^)9 "Be elegant at all times. This is St. Gloriana's way." Even in the panicky situation, Darjeeling's Churchill never moves an inch.  |
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[Trivia] Shell loading indicator at Hana's left. The red light turns green after Yukari's loading. To be precise, it's safety lock indicator. From Karl's bombing scene. |
kemkemmersJun 30, 2016 6:00 AM
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[AFV] Karl-Gerät self-propelled siege mortar. The biggest difference between Panzerfahren version and real one is the driver's and gunner's compartments added to meet Panzerfahren regulations.  This info is taken from the Blu-ray audio commentary track. |
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Original quotes of Darjeeling's sayings. "If a single stalk floats on top of a cup of tea, it means that a stranger is coming - a hard, woody stalk indicates a male visitor and a soft stalk, a female. The length of the stalk tells you whether he or she will be tall or short. To find out when they will come, lay the stalk on the back of the left hand and hit it with the right. " Quote from Teamuse - Tea and Superstition  Success is the child of audacity. -- Benjamin Disraeli (1804–1881)  O Fortune, Fortune, all men call thee fickle. -- William Shakespeare (1564-1616)  Five minutes make the difference between victory and defeat. : Horatio Nelson (1758-1805) Actually the final battle at the central plaza ends in just 5 minutes.  |
kemkemmersJul 3, 2016 8:40 PM
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[AFV] Type 95 Kurogane 4WD Reconnaissance car forming lines as runway edge lights. Those cars are property of Morals Committee.  from Super Galaxy landing scene [Wikipedia link] |
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[AFV] RF-8 aerosan, along with Russian musical instrument Balalaika and Russian tapestries. [Wikipedia RF-8] [Wikipedia Balalaika] |
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[Trivia] The Bocage theme park is a Battle of Normandy reference. or could it be a Namco's Battle City reference? [Wikipedia link] |
kemkemmersJul 3, 2016 8:41 PM
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[Trivia] A trivial continuity mistake: slit hole.  |
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| [AFV]Federation Office Medium Mark A Whippet [Wikipedia MarkA]  (Right) T-35 Multi-turreted heavy tank [Wikipedia T-35] (Left) 7.5cm KwK 40 Tank gun Armor Piercing shell [Wikipedia 7.5cmKwK40]  (Left) M5 Stuart [Wikipedia M5] (Right) Type-4 Chi-To [Wikipedia Chi-To]  Somua S35, in the painting "Wild Poppies, Near Argenteuil" by Claude Monet. [Wikipedia S35][Wikiart "Wild Poppies, Near Argenteuil"]  (Center) O-I Super Heavy Tank [Wikipedia O-I]  Siberia, an old-time Japanese cake. [Siberia article]  |
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| [Trivia] The weird creature on the left is Araippe, a mascot character of real Ooarai town. [Related article][Araippe with GuP seiyuus (Japanese)]  He(She?) suddenly appeared at the end of the exhibition match.  |
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[Cool scene] Miho's specialty, the Right Drift Attack perfectly caught Darjeeling's off guard, though Nonna managed to save the flag with precise covering fire. from exhibition match scene. |
kemkemmersJul 9, 2016 9:51 AM
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| This thread changed my rating of this movie from 8 to 9. I love coming back here to see what I missed. Keep at it my friend! |
| [AFV] KV-2's separate-loading ammunition in action! The Monster on Highway refers to a single KV-2 in the Battle of Raseiniai in 1941. The KV held for one day the entire German 6th Panzer Division, surviving 6 direct hits of deadly 88mm German anti-tank gun. War manga artist Kobayashi Motofumi drew a manga of this story in 1986, titled Kaidou-jou no Kaibutsu (The monster on Highway).[Wikipedia link]  There is a continuity mistake here. Nina handles gunpowder, but she holds a shell in the previous scene.  |
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Alisa searching the sky before radio transmission is a reference to episode 5.  Off topic, but I was surprised when I found they sell Alisa's barrage balloon [Wikipedia] at toyshops in Japan.  I bought this unsold Jagtpanther Girl plastic model, hoping that she will gain her own name someday, to boost sales of it.  |
kemkemmersJul 9, 2016 8:47 AM
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[AFV] M3 Lee, and... M3 Lee Reproduction model for Spielberg movie 1941.  Spielberg wanted an M3 Lee tank for his movie 1941 but couldn't get the real one. This picture is a reproduction model made on M4 Sherman chassis, which was actually used in the flim. Notable differences are drivers visor, suspension and simplified body design. from the night before final match scene. This info was taken from the blu-ray audio commentary track. |
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kemkemmers said: [AFV] KV-2's separate-loading ammunition in action! The Monster on Highway refers to a single KV-2 in the Battle of Raseiniai in 1941. The KV held for one day the entire German 6th Panzer Division, surviving 6 direct hits of deadly 88mm German anti-tank gun. War manga artist Kobayashi Motofumi drew a manga of this story in 1986, titled Kaidou-jou no Kaibutsu (The monster on Highway).[Wikipedia link] There is a continuity mistake here. Nina handles gunpowder, but she holds a shell in the previous scene. I don't think that is a continuity mistake it's more like they could interchange in loading the tank shell components. Nina and Alina could hold either the shell or the charge. As long as they are loaded in the correct order, it doesn't matter who holds the shell/charge. Also the second pic came first before the first pic if you watch the movie again. The shell Nina was holding before was already fired when she picked up the charge. |
zenjamibuJul 6, 2016 8:55 AM
| Online war game Chat log [Nekonya] We can meet here anytime, even when we're parted. [Piyotan] Even at midnight. [Momoga] So we're not lonely at all! Momoga declared war on you! Piyotan declared war on you! (Pitiful Nekonya's mouse pointer twitching...)  [AFV] Leopard 2 MBT  |
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[Reference] Advanced Daisenryaku Computer war game. The Anteater team is simulating 8 vs 30 battle coming the next day. from the night before the match scene. [Wikipedia link] |
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kemkemmers said: Here Maho made a big mistake; the souvenir is a specialty food of Ooarai! Or was it on purpose to reunite Nishizumi family? Yeah, I think it was intentional on her part. The mere act of giving her mom the souvenir (and the movie showing that to us) implies that she had a reason to do so. kemkemmers said: [Trivia] Shell loading indicator at Hana's left. The red light turns green after Yukari's loading. To be precise, it's safety lock indicator. From Karl's bombing scene. This one is some REALLY subtle level of detail, holy sh**! O.o kemkemmers said: Online war game Chat log [Nekonya] We can meet here anytime, even when we're parted. [Piyotan] Even at midnight. [Momoga] So we're not lonely at all! Momoga declared war on you! Piyotan declared war on you! (Pitiful Nekonya's mouse pointer twitching...) I loved the pointer twitching in that scene! haha Really good job with the thread, @kemkemmers. Marked as watching! |
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Nekonya can't help it. In this Civilization Revolution [Wikipedia link] game, she has the widest territory and she is developing powerful weapons too;  |
kemkemmersJul 9, 2016 9:47 AM
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| [Reference] The persuing tank, M26 Pershing was named after John J. Pershing, who fought against Apaches led by Geronimo when he was a Lieutenant of the 6th U.S. Cavalry. Plus, the vehicle on the right is Mitsubishi Leo Three-wheeler. [Wikipedia link]  from Shōwa Japan theme park scene. |
kemkemmersJul 9, 2016 9:29 AM
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[Reference] The Battle of 203 meter Hill during the Russo-Japan War in 1904 [Wikipedia link] The Japanese army repeated reckless charges against Russian machine-gun trench on 203-meter hill again and again, inflicted tremendous casualties for both forces...  ...until Russians finally lost the hill as well as their Pacific Fleet itself.  |
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lol I noticed that too. she said her twintail is real when her teammates asked her to remove the wig |
| I'm having serious problem with uploading and resizing images to New Imgur... Please wait until it fixes. [Reference] Alice Through the Looking Glass reference.  |
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| [Sub plot] Legend of invincible Shimada-style, Part 2 Miho's specialty, the Right Drift Attack bursts again! It did caught Alice off guard, but is nothing more than child's play before Shimada-style.  According to supplemental materials, Shimada style is specialized in one to one combat while Nishizumi style focuses on group tactic. Alice quickly turning to Maho without finishing Miho shows her superior ability in one-to-many combat as well. |
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| Aya often cracked her left eyeglass in the original TV series, since she is a gunner who looks through the optical sight device with left eye. Because everything in the movie is upgraded compared to the TV, so is her cracked eyeglasses; double cracking.  They aren't fixed yet.  from Ooarai win! scene. |
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kseniasolo said: LeonLanford said: she said her twintail is real when her teammates asked her to remove the wig https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wig#Military_wigs Was wondering if that was a reference to the, at times, insane hair some that commanders/generals/officers had. Think this was more popular in Western/Central Europe, though, so maybe not. wow I didn't know that. so those weird curly hairs are fake. I thought it's just a joke lol. because her twintails are curly as well I think it refers to that. thanks :D |
 Massive panjandrum? |
That's it! I really like the heroic music of this Panjandrum scene! And check a few cuts before that to see how Mako adjusts the traveling direction to use the panjan as a sheild. |
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kemkemmers said: [Trivia] ohhh I've alomst forgot to mention the most important one.  The poetry, Chanson d'automne or Autumn song by Paul Verlaine [Wikipedia] is a reference to Operation Overload [Wikipedia]. It was used as a secret messege to French resisitance to rise up for the upcoming large-scale operation. The 3rd line is composed by Darjeeling, meaning that every powerful teams should assemble to Hokkaido island, where the match is going to be held. from night before the match scene. What is the machine in their back? It doesn't look like an instrument for the plane. Is it the Bombe? |
ArgyllDec 10, 2016 8:16 PM
kemkemmers said: [Trivia] What Arisa holds in C-5M Super Galaxy airlifter is a real Takeoff Performance Chart. [Google] You can see how she carefully checked the payload and the condition before the flight.  So, in reality, can C-5M Super Galaxy loaded with Ooarai's 8 panzers actually fly? Considering the fact that C-5M can carry two M1 Abrams at once, you may think 8 panzers are hopeless, saying "heh, it's anime after all ;-P". But I want to say that's not true. Let's try calculate. The official Max payload of C-5M is 129,274kg. The total weight of Ooarai panzers is this.  The data from official website tells it's 208.95t. However, it seems that some of those data are of combat weight, not dry weight. The chart below is my recalculation of roughly estimated total dry weight. It is 175.8t, which means it's still 46.5t overweight. Giving up? No. C-5M's Max take off weight is 381.018kg, and Operating weight (self weight) is 181,437kg. (Max take off weight 381t) > (Operational weight 181.4t)+(Ooarai panzer weight 175.8t)+(Operators' weight 0.15t)= 357.35t !!! THE SUPER GALAXY CAN FLY !!! They may need to cut fuels down for that, but I firmly believe that a rich school like Saunders would have an aerial tanker or two. The weight problem is cleared. Here's another problem; the runway. Big airplane like C-5M requires runway of at least 2000m. Does the small school at evacuation site have such a huge school ground? Of course not. Heh, it's anime. l knew that.;-P This is awesome! Now someone just needs to add a post on low-altitude parachute-extraction. |
in Ep. 4, Miho commented on how St Glorianna's Senshado crews were good at moving and staying in formation Well, that is ... until they recruited a certain pink haired overenthusiastic speed freak in the movie...  |
Bob33Jan 31, 2017 6:08 PM
| I'm a bit late to the party here for having waited so long to see this, but I can still share a fun historical note: As is known, against other tanks, Japanese tanks were notoriously bad. Both in tank quality and the tactics used. Even at their best, they only gave a barely decent account of themselves against light Soviet armor in the 1930s, but were hopelessly outclassed by just about everyone (except China) by 1942. Only the US was more poorly prepared for modern combat in 1939. But, whereas the US quickly corrected its deficiencies, Japan never had the ability to, and most of its efforts, in all areas, were either too little, too late, or (more likely) both. But, despite all this, Japanese tanks performed remarkably well throughout the early years of the war. Just as Germany's inferior tanks constantly bested nations with better armor, so did Japan's, though for a different reason. What was it? Well, you saw it to some degree in the film. They were poorly armed and armored, yes. But much smaller and lighter than contemporaries. And that made them phenomenal in the restricted jungle and mountain terrain that covered much of South and East Asia - they could go where other tanks couldn't. Being unable to best enemy armor was hardly a drawback if you were the only one that could even get tanks to the battlefield! kemkemmers said: This seems convenient and plausible, but I wouldn't be so sure. The maximum payload of an aircraft is generally determined based on structural considerations, so it's not quite a simple case of save weight in A to put it in B. That ability is already factored in, and that fact is readily apparent with the math: The C-5M Super Galaxy, for example, has an operating empty weight of 181,437 kg, a maximum payload of 129,274 kg, and a fuel capacity of 150,819 kg. That puts its maximum actual weight at 461,530 kg, already over 80,000 kg over its maximum take-off weight (MTOW) of 381,083 kg. This, by the way, holds true for all cargo and transport aircraft. The main reason they lose range at higher payloads is because they have to sacrifice fuel to have that load and be able to lift off. In the US, this is accommodated with aerial refueling, so an aircraft can lift off at max payload and then top off on fuel after takeoff (as insinuated).[Trivia] What Arisa holds in C-5M Super Galaxy airlifter is a real Takeoff Performance Chart. [Google] You can see how she carefully checked the payload and the condition before the flight. So, in reality, can C-5M Super Galaxy loaded with Ooarai's 8 panzers actually fly? Considering the fact that C-5M can carry two M1 Abrams at once, you may think 8 panzers are hopeless, saying "heh, it's anime after all ;-P". But I want to say that's not true. Let's try calculate. The official Max payload of C-5M is 129,274kg. The total weight of Ooarai panzers is this. The data from official website tells it's 208.95t. However, it seems that some of those data are of combat weight, not dry weight. The chart below is my recalculation of roughly estimated total dry weight. It is 175.8t, which means it's still 46.5t overweight. Giving up? No. C-5M's Max take off weight is 381.018kg, and Operating weight (self weight) is 181,437kg. (Max take off weight 381t) > (Operational weight 181.4t)+(Ooarai panzer weight 175.8t)+(Operators' weight 0.15t)= 357.35t !!! THE SUPER GALAXY CAN FLY !!! They may need to cut fuels down for that, but I firmly believe that a rich school like Saunders would have an aerial tanker or two. The weight problem is cleared. What that all means, of course, is that there is something else that's limiting payload. If one could simply just keep cutting fuel to allow more payload, the maximum should be significantly higher for all aircraft. That's not the case. In combat aircraft, for example, you'll find that the maximum payload is nothing more than adding up the maximum load of each hard point and bomb bay. No further cutting of fuel will increase it, as total weight has nothing to do with the actual limitation. In cargo aircraft, it's things like the floor, fuselage, and wing roots that limit the payload. Cutting weight from an area that doesn't stress those won't reduce their stress, and thus won't impact payload capacity. But, maybe we can save a bit more weight somewhere. Let's look in depth at those weights: The Hetzer has a stated combat weight of 15,750 kg. A 320L gasoline engine gives it 236.8 kg fuel. Ammunition is 40 rounds at 6.8 kg (weight of APBC), and up to 1200 rounds of 7.92x57mm (about 0.015 kg including belt links) - 290 kg all told. Assuming the crew is included, that would be around 300 kg on average. Supplies like food and water are not that much, but we can round it out to about 850 kg crew and consumables. It's about 1700 for the Tiger(P) using the same methodology, 1400 for the Panzer IV, 900 for the StuG III, 1250 for the Char B1, and a whopping 1800 for the M3. Data's sparse on the fuel and ammunition load of Japanese tanks, but I'll estimate about 1000 kg for the Chi-Nu, and 700 for the I-Go. That's 9600 kg saved, quite a bit less than estimated. Now, if you strip them to non-combat-ready storage/transportation mode, there might be a few hundred extra kilograms removable per tank, but it's still going to come out over 195,000 kg. And here I was hoping those rough estimates were low-balling, but it seems the reverse. There's a lot less weight in consumables than I would have thought. Oh well. I guess even that part has to be chalked up to creative license. For that matter, I'm also not too sure on the space issue either. |
ErwinJAMar 23, 2017 2:47 AM
| Likely already known but I don't see it mentioned in the thread: The BT-42 functioning trackless was real. http://tank-photographs.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/finnish-army-BT-42-assault-gun-parola.html The Sunshine ferry does go from Oarai to Tomakomai in Hokkaido, which takes 18 hours. From the credits: Saki the only member of the Rabbit Team still awake. Then again, the lights are still on.  Araippe reappears:  |
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