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Jun 10, 2015 5:25 PM
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I just can't stand him. He is so damn annoying being cold all the time. Whenever he does anything bad Aihara is the one to apoligize and then he goes right back to being cold. It makes me mad everytime I see him.
Dec 23, 2019 8:41 PM
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You probably weren't expecting to hear anything after years, but yes, I do. He is indeed the most unlikeable character I've ever seen mainly due to how little the series punishes him and how he gets his way all the time.
Feb 17, 2020 7:39 PM
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I just remembered this anime after many years later thinking of how terrible it was. It's like your prime example of "how not to have a relationship" :')
Apr 11, 2020 5:27 AM
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Irie is unpleasent, his personality is hard to get used to and nearly impossible to get along with.
Jun 23, 2020 3:58 AM
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I shall raise my hand.
Oct 1, 2020 1:10 AM
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He never actually cares even though whenever Kotoko messes up, She never gets told it's ok or its an accident, by Irie. He acts tender for a few moments, then he acts cold as usual.
Oct 8, 2020 2:28 AM
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The reviews say he is cold, but 2 episodes in he is actually a rude, inconsiderate asshole
I think I don't know wtf I'm doing. Maybe. Probably.

Oct 18, 2020 6:15 AM
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Annoying as hell indeed.
Dec 2, 2020 9:44 AM

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apparently shoujo readers are masochists

Dec 17, 2020 2:18 AM

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Towards the end I started to not completely hate him since he did eventually seem to start changing for the better. Not much, obviously, but at least he began to show care and affection. That's the only reason I have him as my second most hated character instead of having him tied for first with that Tomoya PoS from Clannad.


Jan 17, 2021 9:18 PM

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Late to the party, but yes. I watched all 25 episodes with the hopes that she would leave his arrogant ass. He's absolutely despicable and all that intelligence is wasted on him. He's not even all that good-looking.

I keep wanting to give shoujo a chance, but it's shows like this one that remind me of why it's my least favorite genre.


"Are you intoxicated, or just insane?"
Feb 17, 2021 9:45 AM
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Ittan_Momen said:
Late to the party, but yes. I watched all 25 episodes with the hopes that she would leave his arrogant ass. He's absolutely despicable and all that intelligence is wasted on him. He's not even all that good-looking.

I keep wanting to give shoujo a chance, but it's shows like this one that remind me of why it's my least favorite genre.


This!! HAve you seen ore monogatari or wotakoi?? There are some amazing shoujos out there, I am a huge fan of the genre, but yes, this one is trash.
Feb 23, 2021 6:58 PM
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What appalled me the most is that after finishing watching it, I decided to read the comments about some of the episodes and the vast majority were actually praising it, even people calling her the best wife... That made me drop my jaw...
Mar 17, 2021 1:17 PM

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I'm at 16 episode and I can't with this guy. I thought that no anime can surprise or make me angry anymore and oooh, how wrong I was. If he was just a cool stoic tsundere or whatever it would have been perfectly fine, but he's such a fucking rude and arrogant asshole. And she's dumb as fuck too, why she even loves him so much is beyond me. Even BL with "rape" scenes aren't fucked up this much, there you can at least tell that this kind of "toxic" behaviour is supposed to be a sign of love, although not everyone think it's romantic and cute. But here, the guy clearly hates her with a passion but he's with her for whatever reason, and she's so dumb and naive that I'm actually surprised she doesn't say "thank you" each time he calls her an idiot and treats her like garbage lol. One of the worst shoujo I've seen.
Mar 24, 2021 5:17 AM
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Oh please don't even get me started. I can't even understand what the mc likes about him. He is not cold he is basically so fucking rude, inconsiderate and arrogant. Also I've watched this anime long time ago, but I remember that he slapped her in one of the episodes after they got married, which means he is totally fine with using violence with his wife, lol he was even the one at wrong at that situation which make it even more shocking. how some people even view this as romantic? I really can't understand them. The mc is dumb too for falling for such a scumbag and tolerating his rudeness and arrogance but atleast she isn't as fucked up as that shithead.
May 10, 2021 6:54 PM

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(6 years old thread lol)

But the hatred is still going on, and I agree with all of you up there.
Whenever he wasn't mean towards Kotoko, I was just relieved for her, I didn't change my opinion about him! I mean who goes out with a girl and still says cold things to her to feel superior?
Jun 7, 2021 9:51 PM
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Kary88 said:
Ittan_Momen said:
Late to the party, but yes. I watched all 25 episodes with the hopes that she would leave his arrogant ass. He's absolutely despicable and all that intelligence is wasted on him. He's not even all that good-looking.

I keep wanting to give shoujo a chance, but it's shows like this one that remind me of why it's my least favorite genre.


This!! HAve you seen ore monogatari or wotakoi?? There are some amazing shoujos out there, I am a huge fan of the genre, but yes, this one is trash.

You can't go without Kaichou wa Maid-sama, Kimi ni Todoke, Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun, etc.
Aug 1, 2021 2:36 AM
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What a fucking aweful kind of guy he is man.. i hate him with a passion..
Aug 8, 2021 5:30 AM
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EDIT: You can start by reading my past comment or my new comment, just got it finished and I'm whipped to tell you there's a formula to counter your Irie-hate meter, well if you try to project different perspectives or try to hypothesize situations. SPOILER BY THE WAY!!

I've stopped this anime awhile ago (I only lasted 9 episodes because I feel sick of seeing everyone except Irie's mama) because of Irie's "Highschool" personality, but stuff gets lighter until we get to his "Doctor/ Father" personality. I'm not going to debate or anything, but from a perspective of mine, I get him. As much as possible I don't want sticking to stereotypes in MBTI as it doesn't justify his past toxic attitude, but as an INTP who has seen a lot of extremities with other types, especially in fiction, his cold, strictly planned, almost isolated and prankfully rude front in his younger years was his immature stage as an INTJ.

He's isolated from everyone because he was always praised and fawned over that he had gotten tired when he was young, he's cold to the point of ignorance towards other's feelings just because he has it all, and strictly planned because he got his own decisions planned ahead and almost no one can stop him (well, except Kotoko who truly rumbled him). I can't say much with his rudeness, maybe it runs in the blood (if you watch episode 25 I know you'll get it).

That front cracks every episode even when it seems like he reverts to his old self. Most of the feelings that should be available when "they feel a special attachment" aren't present most of the time because he hadn't feel those before, as expected of the guy who only had the best oppportunities.

But as the series progress, btw I stopped in December (was just a one/two day marathon till I can't take the secondhand embarrassment anymore) and continued this August! The formula I was talking about is just this: Take your time getting off, this anime is like a narrow-hole test, it'll be tough at first but when you actually warm up to it, your understanding gets better and wider. Wait, that analogy sounded weird tho but, MOVING ON!!!

ON THE OTHER HANDDDDD
Kotoko's an ENFP, even tho she's all over the place, she got this charm and dedication that Irie lacks. As a feeler, I can see how much she really gave her pushes even though it was childish. I may not be able to approve it in real life but I wished I had that kind of courage too, just the courage part aight. Just this: what Irie lacks, Kotoko fills in. Their splitting contrast is what gave birth to this awkward situations. The absolute truth is not in there, but it gives enough justification in their decisions, thoughts, and actions in fiction.

Irie Naoki has gotten mellow and caring through the years, an Kotoko has gotten more reliable and lovely, through all the romance genre I've seen, this kind of progress may need more time and chapters but I didn't mind the pacing, it was well-kept.

I'll just be honest with everyone, I will always understand that Irie is a hard nut to crack to the point of despicable, but I'm glad I finished it. Irie and Kotoko changed for the best, they learned their adjustments and compromises and worked through it, that is why I forgive Irie now.

I hope you'll be able to forgive him as well, his character was honestly well-written. His flaws and acknowledgment of his mistakes gave me the bullseye. I won't compare it to any romance anime, but if you ever plan on watching this, even if it's a pain, try to give yourself some time to warm up to him.

(I hate that I like him now but to be open-minded is always my forte, his character logically made sense when fiction levels are cranked up). If you've read this through till the end, hehe just so we know the reason I endured it was also because Irie's seiyuu is Hirarin (Hirakawa Daisuke), listen to Aoki Kodou and you'll get it 🥲💔💕.

OLD COMMENT: Honestly, I'm going back to give Irie a chance but even if I haven't watched it for almost a year, I still feel the secondhand embarrassment when Kotoko does something that'll make me feel angry at Irie more.

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here by saying: Kotoko does indeed give me a reason to become a bit like Irie, but not to the point of being rude. For me it's understandable that Kotoko has to change but not in Irie's mold, but rather to give herself some self-respect. Irie acts like that because Kotoko is helpless and a bit of a trouble magnet, though her earnest and hardworking attitude is what keeps Irie close to her (since she really will do anything not just because he has it all). On the other side, that's why his mother was also into Kotoko, brains over brains will not clash well because of his complex and pride, Irie can't be talked out of his way with intelligence so he had to be hit by heart and actions. His toxicity is still a piece of stain in his image, but I hope when I watch this, his attitude should fizz out, so is Kotoko.

Btw, I stopped by the moment when they all turn to College, I'm gonna leave a statement here that her friends were hella embarrassing to me, so is Kotoko, I understand Irie's irritation towards her a liiiiitle bit.
Sep 20, 2021 1:01 PM

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well he was still better than Kyouya Sata from Wolf Girl & Black Prince and Usui from Maid sama🤣

𝓜𝓪𝔂𝓫𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓭 𝓽𝓸 𝓵𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪𝓼 𝓶𝓾𝓬𝓱 𝓶𝓮𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓸𝓾𝓻𝓼𝓮𝓵𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓮𝓪𝓬𝓱 𝓸𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓫𝓮𝓬𝓪𝓾𝓼𝓮 𝔀𝓮 𝓴𝓷𝓮𝔀 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓭𝓪𝔂 𝔀𝓮 𝔀𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭𝓷'𝓽 𝓫𝓮 𝓽𝓸𝓰𝓮𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻 𝓪𝓷𝔂 𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮
Oct 5, 2021 2:13 PM
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I am currently watching this. I'm on episode 15 and I don't know if I can take this man anymore if he's still going to be a dick after marriage. I literally come back for Kin and the Mom. I hated that they wrote this out of character sexual assault scene for Kin. It was not needed. Unfortunately as cute as the MC can be, she is annoying as well. "I guess I really like Irie." Girl if you don't grow up and go to class! I can't.
Dec 19, 2021 7:48 AM
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SAT_KUMAR said:
well he was still better than Kyouya Sata from Wolf Girl & Black Prince and Usui from Maid sama🤣


Not gonna blame you on thinking like that tho, I don't really get the spice with bad boys and "poster perfect" boys like??? I'm a little okay with Usui but just because he's the lesser of the evil with these three donkeys, it doesn't mean I agree with how they treat the FLs. Well not until their marriages, they did change for the better, idk with Wolf Girl tho since I haven't read the manga.
Dec 21, 2021 12:08 AM
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(Mild spoilers ahead)
Man thank you for voicing this out. I absolutely dislike him. Everyone just adores him cos he's handsome like da fck he's so cold, rude and unemotional all the time. Even those moments where he's mildly nice doesn't last so what's the fcking point? He's not even a tsundere, just plain rude. And girls surround him from the beginning till the end of the anime and he doesn't even put in the effort to distance himself from them like wth. The honeymoon ep really pissed me the hell off. Kotoko and everyone else always puts him on this goddamn pedestal like he's some fcking god or something just because he's handsome and smart but oml he's so far from being a normal human. When he agreed to be there during Kotoko's labour I nearly flipped like wth isn't it a given for him to be there?? And don't forget the one ep when he kissed her when she was asleep okay, there wasn't any consent even though Kotoko that blockhead would've let him but it's a huge NO from me.
Jan 1, 2022 2:08 AM
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This guy is literally worthless human garbage. How this show has such a high rating and ranking I’ll never understand
Feb 17, 2022 7:27 PM

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Yup yup there is...Me! He's so damn arrogant and cold. He's ever worse than Kyouya from 'Wolf girl and black prince' .
Aug 22, 2022 9:47 AM
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@seiikomiiko Thank you for defending the INTJ personality. I myself is an INTJ but female. It's mostly due to these stereotypes such as Irie-kun that INTJ are villainized. It's true that INTJ do act like him, but as an anime "character" I believe his personality is blown out of proportions to keep a "plot" BUT it does not make him a good character, abuse and toxic behaviors should be punished or else younger people who are more impressionable will think that such behaviors are alright. If I had watched this when I was younger, I would think that slapping, being cold and rude are acceptable as long as I can "rationalize" it.

It would be great to have a remake of this anime with modern values, less toxicity, and better character development because it's one of those few romance anime that doesn't end with a kiss or a confession, the only reason I watched it.

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