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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- A lot of dialog! here we go Teresa vs Priscilla, finally! Teresa have the upper hand but Priscilla is keeping up with her Instant regenerating (creation).. Galatea-sama! and the current generation claymores join the group. |
Satou0KunJul 1, 2014 3:43 AM
| Teresa is too OP, I would have liked if Priscilla's power was at half when Raki and Clare destroyed her main body so that this fight would be a bit more feasible. |
Major_Awesome said: Teresa is too OP, I would have liked if Priscilla's power was at half when Raki and Clare destroyed her main body so that this fight would be a bit more feasible. Nah, Priscilla is the one that's too OP. She needs to die asap! |
keragamming said: Major_Awesome said: Teresa is too OP, I would have liked if Priscilla's power was at half when Raki and Clare destroyed her main body so that this fight would be a bit more feasible. Nah, Priscilla is the one that's too OP. She needs to die asap! And if Teresa beats around that OP Priscilla, what does that make Teresa? |
| Teresa was really charismatic. |
| Full on action boner. Teresa is so badass. Gar for Teresa. |
"You know what they say about he who hesitates in war? He who hesitates is lost." |
| I loved the little detail of having almost all the living Claymores present for the final battle. We cannot be too far off from the ending of the manga ( at least in its present form I reckon). Teresa expressing Clare's thoughts on her sisters was pretty sweet. And her fighting ability is just peerless. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
keragamming said: Major_Awesome said: Teresa is too OP, I would have liked if Priscilla's power was at half when Raki and Clare destroyed her main body so that this fight would be a bit more feasible. Nah, Priscilla is the one that's too OP. She needs to die asap! I agree |
| im getting death flags from teresa.. :( |
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| The way Teresa keeps her tone out like that is mad sexy. The fight starts at last - Priscilla looking pretty monstrous with all those instant regeneration + power-ups. Now, the questions' whether this series will end after this arc and well, whether Teresa or Clare or some other claymore will deal the final, decisive blow. |
| 「一人殺せば犯罪者だけど、千人殺せば英雄になれる。百万人殺せば征服者だし、絶滅させれば神よ」 |
| Lol, when Teresa is on the battlefield, everything just looks so easy to her. |
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| this chapter read like a farewell. i really hope this manga doesn't end soon. |
| If Claire could awaken Teresa to get huge power boost does that mean all the other warriors did it wrong using youki to awaken themselves? I would think that now that Claire did it then other warriors could focus their youki and awaken the parts of Youma in their bodies for a power boost. Something like Bleach and their sword spirits. Miata could bring that red hair girl back in her inner world or take her form. Ah Teresa. Even if the manga is black & white I saw her eyes turn red @_@ that's how badass She is. |
| nice to see Galatea again, and damn that Priscilla is just pure madness now, lets see how Teresa can win |
| Next chapter : The end of Priscilla ? I hope so ... |
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Major_Awesome said: keragamming said: Nah, Priscilla is the one that's too OP. She needs to die asap! And if Teresa beats around that OP Priscilla, what does that make Teresa? I agree, it's not normal for Teresa to be this strong. Why did we had abyssalls? Why didn't the organization just sent Teresa to kill them all if she is so much stronger? Priscilla is stronger than an abyssal by far but it was never stated that Teresa was such a monster. Being the strongest single warrior doesn't mean she's that far off. I thought Teresa was close to an abyssal level not as crazy strong as she appears now. |
MonadJul 3, 2014 7:29 PM
Monad said: Priscilla is stronger than an abyssal by far but it was never stated that Teresa was such a monster. Being the strongest single warrior doesn't mean she's that far off. I thought Teresa was close to an abyssal level not as crazy strong as she appears now. |
Monad said: Major_Awesome said: And if Teresa beats around that OP Priscilla, what does that make Teresa? I agree, it's not normal for Teresa to be this strong. Why did we had abyssalls? Why didn't the organization just sent Teresa to kill them all if she is so much stronger? Priscilla is stronger than an abyssal by far but it was never stated that Teresa was such a monster. Being the strongest single warrior doesn't mean she's that far off. I thought Teresa was close to an abyssal level not as crazy strong as she appears now. I look at this current Teresa as not the original Teresa (who was already powerful), but an awakened being in the form of Teresa. Also, the whole reason why Claire was able to awaken this way is due to the culmination of all her experiences and influences, her power 'output' is at least equal to something like (Claire + Irene + Raphael + Teresa) x Awakened Form. Sorry for the illogical math… this Awakened Being Teresa is not just literally stronger, but she also have the mentality of a person has resolved her inner conflicts, which is a clear contrast to Priscilla and most awakened beings, who are often consumed by a singular thought or motivation, trapped and unable to break their addiction-like feedback loop. |
| Teresa joins the fray and single-handedly mops around with Priscilla as if she's a plaything. How many of you guys read Teresa-sama's dialogues in Romi Paku's voice? :D. Galatea comes to watch the fight along with the other Claymores from the Holy Land. Could this get any better? The next chapter should answer that. Hope that it releases soon. I feel that this current Teresa is beastly than the Teresa who got killed even though at that time she didn't reveal her full power. o.o Anyways, I feel that there will be a sufficient amount of anti-climax where Teresa will disappear when she is about to deliver the death blow to her nemesis and Clare with the other Claymores will be the one to finish Priscilla off.. |
| What an amazing art! Amazing chapter! loved it! |
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| Loved Teresa, both her beauty and strength are admirable :D The battle is just being dragged on now seeing that Teresa is going so easy on Priscilla, won't be long before Priscilla falls to her knees :) |
ShanaFlameJul 4, 2014 7:17 PM
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OnePieceQ8 said: Monad said: Priscilla is stronger than an abyssal by far but it was never stated that Teresa was such a monster. Being the strongest single warrior doesn't mean she's that far off. I thought Teresa was close to an abyssal level not as crazy strong as she appears now. This is one of the most misguiding chapters. First of all Rosemary was given number one after the death of Hysteria, which means it was most likely given to her because of this. But the only reason why Rosemary killed her was because Teresa had dealt a blow that dulled Hysteria movements. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/125/15/ I think the the Organization realized this and then just gave Teresa the #1 set without them even having to fight as Rosemary says. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/73.1/15/ So given this and with Hysteria saying that Rosemary was only a #4 and the fact that she was awakened when she fought Teresa means that she was most likely not abyssal. I would hardly think that the Organization would miss the awakening of a new abyssal. Rosemary awakened form isn't even that large like the others; the only exception we seen so far was Hysteria herself but that because she sacrificed everything for speed. |
Major_Awesome said: OnePieceQ8 said: This is one of the most misguiding chapters. First of all Rosemary was given number one after the death of Hysteria, which means it was most likely given to her because of this. But the only reason why Rosemary killed her was because Teresa had dealt a blow that dulled Hysteria movements. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/125/15/ I think the the Organization realized this and then just gave Teresa the #1 set without them even having to fight as Rosemary says. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/73.1/15/ So given this and with Hysteria saying that Rosemary was only a #4 and the fact that she was awakened when she fought Teresa means that she was most likely not abyssal. I would hardly think that the Organization would miss the awakening of a new abyssal. Rosemary awakened form isn't even that large like the others; the only exception we seen so far was Hysteria herself but that because she sacrificed everything for speed. "Most likely", "I think" ≠ confirmation or proof.. it's just speculation.. Plus, it doesn't matter what's her first rank.. Roxanne was a #35, wasn't she? yet, she's an abyssal. once a "#1" awaken -> he/she will become an Abyssal one. in Rosemary case she awakened as a former #1 but only #2 to Teresa! putting Teresa aside, makes Rosemary #1.. she is an Abyssal class. Also the organization didn't know about Rosemary's awakening.. Conclusion: Rosemary = Abyssal class , Teresa 10% > Abyssal one. |
Satou0KunJul 6, 2014 4:39 AM
OnePieceQ8 said: Major_Awesome said: This is one of the most misguiding chapters. First of all Rosemary was given number one after the death of Hysteria, which means it was most likely given to her because of this. But the only reason why Rosemary killed her was because Teresa had dealt a blow that dulled Hysteria movements. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/125/15/ I think the the Organization realized this and then just gave Teresa the #1 set without them even having to fight as Rosemary says. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/73.1/15/ So given this and with Hysteria saying that Rosemary was only a #4 and the fact that she was awakened when she fought Teresa means that she was most likely not abyssal. I would hardly think that the Organization would miss the awakening of a new abyssal. Rosemary awakened form isn't even that large like the others; the only exception we seen so far was Hysteria herself but that because she sacrificed everything for speed. "Most likely", "I think" ≠ confirmation or proof.. it's just speculation.. Plus, it doesn't matter what's her first rank.. Roxanne was a #35, wasn't she? yet, she's an abyssal. once a "#1" awaken -> he/she will become an Abyssal one. in Rosemary case she awakened as a former #1 but only #2 to Teresa! putting Teresa aside, makes Rosemary #1.. she is an Abyssal class. Also the organization didn't know about Rosemary's awakening.. Conclusion: Rosemary = Abyssal class , Teresa 10% > Abyssal one. Actually you can say it 'WAS' because Rosemary killed Hysteria that she was given the number 1 set. After Hysteria Massacre a bunch of the Warriors and the fact that there were heaps of bodies piled up with only being 47 Warriors at a time means that there wasn't that many left. And with Rosemary killing Hysteria without the Organization's men knowing that Teresa was the one that gave the blow for this to happen, she would have been given the #1 set. The fact they just gave Teresa the #1 set after means that they found this out after Dae inspected the bodies, so there was no time for Rosemary to become a true #1. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/110/15/ As Rito said: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" Not only that but becoming a #1 isn't an easy thing. The reason why Roxanne got to the #1 set was because she was crazy as hell and this kind of mental state makes them strong, like Priscilla. Rosemary was never said to have any traits like this, nor did they say there was anything special. It took Clare and Miria 7 years to get to a #2 rating, so unless it took 7+ years for Dae to inspect Hysteria's body... Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. |
Major_Awesome said: OnePieceQ8 said: "Most likely", "I think" ≠ confirmation or proof.. it's just speculation.. Plus, it doesn't matter what's her first rank.. Roxanne was a #35, wasn't she? yet, she's an abyssal. once a "#1" awaken -> he/she will become an Abyssal one. in Rosemary case she awakened as a former #1 but only #2 to Teresa! putting Teresa aside, makes Rosemary #1.. she is an Abyssal class. Also the organization didn't know about Rosemary's awakening.. Conclusion: Rosemary = Abyssal class , Teresa 10% > Abyssal one. Actually you can say it 'WAS' because Rosemary killed Hysteria that she was given the number 1 set. After Hysteria Massacre a bunch of the Warriors and the fact that there were heaps of bodies piled up with only being 47 Warriors at a time means that there wasn't that many left. And with Rosemary killing Hysteria without the Organization's men knowing that Teresa was the one that gave the blow for this to happen, she would have been given the #1 set. The fact they just gave Teresa the #1 set after means that they found this out after Dae inspected the bodies, so there was no time for Rosemary to become a true #1. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/110/15/ As Rito said: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" Not only that but becoming a #1 isn't an easy thing. The reason why Roxanne got to the #1 set was because she was crazy as hell and this kind of mental state makes them strong, like Priscilla. Rosemary was never said to have any traits like this, nor did they say there was anything special. It took Clare and Miria 7 years to get to a #2 rating, so unless it took 7+ years for Dae to inspect Hysteria's body... Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. I do not believe that Dae could tell it was Teresa who struck Hysteria that took away her speed. Dae can not tell that because all the blades are the same and Teresa does not have a signature sword strike that would make it obvious that Teresa did it. And we do not know the time that passed between that encounter at all. Sure Rosemary could be one of the weaker Abyssal but she is still Abyssal class. To even make Teresa release her Yoki is a clear sign of her power. And the organization probably did not even comprehend the strength Teresa had because she never released her yoki that much. And Teresa would replace any previous number 1 so it does not show that Rosemary is weak because she got replaced. And again Teresa crushing Priscilla makes perfect sense because Priscilla is literally a mass of yoki so Teresa's sensing abilities are perfect to take down Priscilla who is pouring out yoki. Teresa is just a far better opponent for Priscilla then any Abyssal one who can't predict the attacks and dodge (outside of hysteria I suppose who could use her speed) |
ponygon123Jul 6, 2014 12:51 PM
Major_Awesome said: OnePieceQ8 said: "Most likely", "I think" ≠ confirmation or proof.. it's just speculation.. Plus, it doesn't matter what's her first rank.. Roxanne was a #35, wasn't she? yet, she's an abyssal. once a "#1" awaken -> he/she will become an Abyssal one. in Rosemary case she awakened as a former #1 but only #2 to Teresa! putting Teresa aside, makes Rosemary #1.. she is an Abyssal class. Also the organization didn't know about Rosemary's awakening.. Conclusion: Rosemary = Abyssal class , Teresa 10% > Abyssal one. Actually you can say it 'WAS' because Rosemary killed Hysteria that she was given the number 1 set. After Hysteria Massacre a bunch of the Warriors and the fact that there were heaps of bodies piled up with only being 47 Warriors at a time means that there wasn't that many left. And with Rosemary killing Hysteria without the Organization's men knowing that Teresa was the one that gave the blow for this to happen, she would have been given the #1 set. The fact they just gave Teresa the #1 set after means that they found this out after Dae inspected the bodies, so there was no time for Rosemary to become a true #1. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/110/15/ As Rito said: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" Not only that but becoming a #1 isn't an easy thing. The reason why Roxanne got to the #1 set was because she was crazy as hell and this kind of mental state makes them strong, like Priscilla. Rosemary was never said to have any traits like this, nor did they say there was anything special. It took Clare and Miria 7 years to get to a #2 rating, so unless it took 7+ years for Dae to inspect Hysteria's body... Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. Part1: first paragraph.. I totally see what you're telling me.. but even if we "assumed" that Rosemary became #1 because she killed "injured" Hysteria.. (even tho there's no proof to this statement as a reason..) i will say Roxanne killed "injured" Cassandra.. didn't Roxanne become a true #1 after that? same goes to Rosemary's case, but put Teresa aside since she's not ordinary Claymore.. She's above any #1 ! Part2: for ch.110 page 15 (link you posted) go back 1 page.. here: "The number ones who died without awakening are.. (and they named few of the names)" then Rito's: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" all of their corpses -> the number ones who died without awakening. Rosemary isn't one of them she's a "Former" #1 & she died as a #2 to Teresa + she awakened before her death & the orgenization doesn't know about that.. plus, Part3: last paragraph.. Roxanne is crazy that's a given point :p but she became #1 because of her "scheme".. Rosemary doesn't need any traits.. being a former #1 & a #2 to "Teresa" makes her abyssal class. |
Satou0KunJul 6, 2014 1:01 PM
OnePieceQ8 said: Major_Awesome said: Actually you can say it 'WAS' because Rosemary killed Hysteria that she was given the number 1 set. After Hysteria Massacre a bunch of the Warriors and the fact that there were heaps of bodies piled up with only being 47 Warriors at a time means that there wasn't that many left. And with Rosemary killing Hysteria without the Organization's men knowing that Teresa was the one that gave the blow for this to happen, she would have been given the #1 set. The fact they just gave Teresa the #1 set after means that they found this out after Dae inspected the bodies, so there was no time for Rosemary to become a true #1. http://www.onemanga.me/claymore/110/15/ As Rito said: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" Not only that but becoming a #1 isn't an easy thing. The reason why Roxanne got to the #1 set was because she was crazy as hell and this kind of mental state makes them strong, like Priscilla. Rosemary was never said to have any traits like this, nor did they say there was anything special. It took Clare and Miria 7 years to get to a #2 rating, so unless it took 7+ years for Dae to inspect Hysteria's body... Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. Part1: first paragraph.. I totally see what you're telling me.. but even if we "assumed" that Rosemary became #1 because she killed "injured" Hysteria.. (even tho there's no proof to this statement as a reason..) i will say Roxanne killed "injured" Cassandra.. didn't Roxanne become a true #1 after that? same goes to Rosemary's case, but put Teresa aside since she's not ordinary Claymore.. She's above any #1 ! Part2: for ch.110 page 15 (link you posted) go back 1 page.. here: "The number ones who died without awakening are.. (and they named few of the names)" then Rito's: "you were the one who inspected all of their corpses" all of their corpses -> the number ones who died without awakening. Rosemary isn't one of them she's a "Former" #1 & she died as a #2 to Teresa + she awakened before her death & the orgenization doesn't know about that.. plus, Part3: last paragraph.. Roxanne is crazy that's a given point :p but she became #1 because of her "scheme".. Rosemary doesn't need any traits.. being a former #1 & a #2 to "Teresa" makes her abyssal class. Their is a difference between Rosemary and Roxanne, and that being, after Roxanne killed Cassandra we don't know how long Roxanne was a Warrior for afterword. Now sure you can say the same for Rosemary, but why else would they just give Teresa the number 1 spot? She's #1 in an era where there are few Warriors left and no notable event that would require Teresa to reveal her true power. Not only that but if you look at Rosemary's awakened form it doesn't look abyssal. The only true notable #1 that was second to Teresa was Irene. Because of the fact that Irene's Quick sword is still above Clare's. And the fact that Clare's Quick sword beat Rafaela who had similar power to Luciela. Can you say that it wasn't because of Rosemary killing Hysteria because she was injured, without going into speculation? You would be making assumptions about how long after the fight with Hysteria and the fight between Teresa killed Rosemary took place. I never said anything about Rosemary's corpse... I was talking about Hysteria and she NEVER awakened. Just because someone is #2 to Teresa does make them an abyssal immediately. As I said: there was a large amount of Warriors dead at the time, so you can't assume that she was abyssal just because Teresa was OP. The fact that she got knocked out of #1, without even so much as a fight, points to that. Not only that but even Irene and the others didn't judge Teresa's power correctly and they have history, meaning Teresa never really reveal the fact that she was that strong. The only other notable experience that Teresa may have revealed that she was this strong was in with the fight with Hysteria, so that just points back to the fact that Rosemary doesn't have the time to become this strong. |
Major_Awesome said: Their is a difference between Rosemary and Roxanne, and that being, after Roxanne killed Cassandra we don't know how long Roxanne was a Warrior for afterword. Now sure you can say the same for Rosemary, but why else would they just give Teresa the number 1 spot? She's #1 in an era where there are few Warriors left and no notable event that would require Teresa to reveal her true power. Not only that but if you look at Rosemary's awakened form it doesn't look abyssal. The only true notable #1 that was second to Teresa was Irene. Because of the fact that Irene's Quick sword is still above Clare's. And the fact that Clare's Quick sword beat Rafaela who had similar power to Luciela. Can you say that it wasn't because of Rosemary killing Hysteria because she was injured, without going into speculation? You would be making assumptions about how long after the fight with Hysteria and the fight between Teresa killed Rosemary took place. I never said anything about Rosemary's corpse... I was talking about Hysteria and she NEVER awakened. Just because someone is #2 to Teresa does make them an abyssal immediately. As I said: there was a large amount of Warriors dead at the time, so you can't assume that she was abyssal just because Teresa was OP. The fact that she got knocked out of #1, without even so much as a fight, points to that. Not only that but even Irene and the others didn't judge Teresa's power correctly and they have history, meaning Teresa never really reveal the fact that she was that strong. The only other notable experience that Teresa may have revealed that she was this strong was in with the fight with Hysteria, so that just points back to the fact that Rosemary doesn't have the time to become this strong. Part1: first paragraph.. you asked: "but why else would they just give Teresa the number 1 spot?" Teresa answered that with a straight forward answer.. here: She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones.. she's that OP.. she's a special case any no.1 will become no.2 behind Teresa.. this is a fact! Rosemary was the one here + she's a "Former" no.1 (doesn't matter for how long, like Roxanne we don't know..!) .. but it's not like she's always been behind Teresa as no.2 like Irene -for example-. Part2: you said: "Can you say that it wasn't because of Rosemary killing Hysteria because she was injured, without going into speculation? You would be making assumptions about how long after the fight with Hysteria and the fight between Teresa killed Rosemary took place." No, we don't need speculation here.. we know what happend between them briefly.. Rosemary became a no.1 at some point.. doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long! (again, Roxanne best example that all these speculations/assumptions doesn't matter!) Part3: for Hysteria's corpse.. my bad but 2 comments up there @ponygon123 replied to this point. ponygon123 said: I do not believe that Dae could tell it was Teresa who struck Hysteria that took away her speed. Dae can not tell that because all the blades are the same and Teresa does not have a signature sword strike that would make it obvious that Teresa did it. And we do not know the time that passed between that encounter at all. Part4: you said: "Just because someone is #2 to Teresa doesn't make them an abyssal immediately." I agree, best example: Irene.. but Rosemary is not just a no.2 to Teresa, she's also a "Former" no.1.. being a "Former" no.1 & no.2 to Teresa, that's what makes her Abyssal class. Part 5: "As I said: there was a large amount of Warriors dead at the time, so you can't assume that she was abyssal just because Teresa was OP. The fact that she got knocked out of #1, without even so much as a fight, points to that. Not only that but even Irene and the others didn't judge Teresa's power correctly and they have history,meaning Teresa never really reveal the fact that she was that strong." I can.. because Rosemary was no.1 for a period of time not just because Teresa is OP.. any no.1 will be knocked out of the spot if Teresa was in their generation because she's that strong even without releasing any yoki, she's stronger than anyone.. we still don't know how strong she is after the 10%.. and she used it 3 times only (twice against Priscilla and once against Rosemary -this once tells us alot-).. It was fun discussion.. but i said all i have.. & i don't want us to go through the same loop :p Me: Rosemary = Abyssal. You: Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. |
Satou0KunJul 7, 2014 2:26 AM
OnePieceQ8 said: Major_Awesome said: Their is a difference between Rosemary and Roxanne, and that being, after Roxanne killed Cassandra we don't know how long Roxanne was a Warrior for afterword. Now sure you can say the same for Rosemary, but why else would they just give Teresa the number 1 spot? She's #1 in an era where there are few Warriors left and no notable event that would require Teresa to reveal her true power. Not only that but if you look at Rosemary's awakened form it doesn't look abyssal. The only true notable #1 that was second to Teresa was Irene. Because of the fact that Irene's Quick sword is still above Clare's. And the fact that Clare's Quick sword beat Rafaela who had similar power to Luciela. Can you say that it wasn't because of Rosemary killing Hysteria because she was injured, without going into speculation? You would be making assumptions about how long after the fight with Hysteria and the fight between Teresa killed Rosemary took place. I never said anything about Rosemary's corpse... I was talking about Hysteria and she NEVER awakened. Just because someone is #2 to Teresa does make them an abyssal immediately. As I said: there was a large amount of Warriors dead at the time, so you can't assume that she was abyssal just because Teresa was OP. The fact that she got knocked out of #1, without even so much as a fight, points to that. Not only that but even Irene and the others didn't judge Teresa's power correctly and they have history, meaning Teresa never really reveal the fact that she was that strong. The only other notable experience that Teresa may have revealed that she was this strong was in with the fight with Hysteria, so that just points back to the fact that Rosemary doesn't have the time to become this strong. Part1: first paragraph.. you asked: "but why else would they just give Teresa the number 1 spot?" Teresa answered that with a straight forward answer.. here: She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones.. she's that OP.. she's a special case any no.1 will become no.2 behind Teresa.. this is a fact! Rosemary was the one here + she's a "Former" no.1 (doesn't matter for how long, like Roxanne we don't know..!) .. but it's not like she's always been behind Teresa as no.2 like Irene -for example-. Part2: you said: "Can you say that it wasn't because of Rosemary killing Hysteria because she was injured, without going into speculation? You would be making assumptions about how long after the fight with Hysteria and the fight between Teresa killed Rosemary took place." No, we don't need speculation here.. we know what happend between them briefly.. Rosemary became a no.1 at some point.. doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long! (again, Roxanne best example that all these speculations/assumptions doesn't matter!) Part3: for Hysteria's corpse.. my bad but 2 comments up there @ponygon123 replied to this point. ponygon123 said: I do not believe that Dae could tell it was Teresa who struck Hysteria that took away her speed. Dae can not tell that because all the blades are the same and Teresa does not have a signature sword strike that would make it obvious that Teresa did it. And we do not know the time that passed between that encounter at all. Part4: you said: "Just because someone is #2 to Teresa doesn't make them an abyssal immediately." I agree, best example: Irene.. but Rosemary is not just a no.2 to Teresa, she's also a "Former" no.1.. being a "Former" no.1 & no.2 to Teresa, that's what makes her Abyssal class. Part 5: "As I said: there was a large amount of Warriors dead at the time, so you can't assume that she was abyssal just because Teresa was OP. The fact that she got knocked out of #1, without even so much as a fight, points to that. Not only that but even Irene and the others didn't judge Teresa's power correctly and they have history,meaning Teresa never really reveal the fact that she was that strong." I can.. because Rosemary was no.1 for a period of time not just because Teresa is OP.. any no.1 will be knocked out of the spot if Teresa was in their generation because she's that strong even without releasing any yoki, she's stronger than anyone.. we still don't know how strong she is after the 10%.. and she used it 3 times only (twice against Priscilla and once against Rosemary -this once tells us alot-).. It was fun discussion.. but i said all i have.. & i don't want us to go through the same loop :p Me: Rosemary = Abyssal. You: Rosemary ≠ Abyssal. First of all: "It was fun discussion... but I said all I have wanted to...[/s] & I don't want us to go through the same loop. :p" But yet you put in unnecessary things like ".." at the end of your sentences like you're criticizing. (It should be "..." by the way.) You point out a typing mistake that wasn't necessary to do as well. Do you really expect someone to not reply if you're being disrespectful? It's like your trying to keep this going. I would have let this go if you hadn't just done what you did and I would have accepted: "Me: Rosemary = Abyssal. You: Rosemary ≠ Abyssal." To part 1: I don't know why you keep repeating "She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones.. she's that OP.. she's a special case any no.1 will become no.2 behind Teresa.. this is a fact!" We all know that if there was an average #1 she would get moved aside if someone like Teresa came along. But you forget that: like the gap between 5&6 there is another at 1&2 and it's something that isn't easily crossed. And there situation wasn't normal, so just because Rosemary got the #1 set doesn't mean that she automatically became an Abyssal. "She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones" Is a stupid remark and an impossibility, how can you say she is the strongest in all time? To part 2: "doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long" It does... Let's say Rosemary got the #1 set only because she killed Hysteria and after a few days the Organization finds out "Hey, it was actually because of Teresa that Rosemary killed Hysteria.", so what you're saying is that because she was given the #1 set she automatically became a true #1 after just being a #4. Roxanne was just a special case not only that but as Renee said "If any of the low ranking soldiers were to have gone up in rank, I'm sure they would be widely spoken about..." Now how many Warrior have done what Roxanne did out of 150+ generations of Warriors? Now we know that the survivors of the north trained for 7 years as Deneve said: "Otherwise what was the point training these last 7 years 'til we puked blood." and yet none of them reached #1 level? Clare being #47 and Miria being number #6 still didn't reach this. To Part 3: What Dae would have seen was, besides other wounds that may have been there, is one that killed Hysteria and one that dulled her movements. Now as Ponygon said: "because all the blades are the same and Teresa does not have a signature sword strike that would make it obvious that Teresa did it." This is true, but there were still people there to see this happen and your telling me no one could have said who did what? To Part 4: And Rosemary ISN'T Roxanne..! So how do you know she climbed so easily afterword? The men of the Organization named off all the #1's that were above the rest and Roxanne was there, but Rosemary wasn't. So how would Rosemary have done this... Oh that's right "Rosemary became a no.1 at some point.. doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long!", so YOLO happened. To Part 5: "Teresa was in their generation because she's that strong even without releasing any yoki, she's stronger than anyone.." Not even Irene or Rosemary knew that Teresa was this strong, as they were both surprised when she went to 10%, so why would the Organization just have Rosemary give up her spot like that then without knowing Teresa full might? Give me an answer to this, without saying "she's that OP". How would have the Organization have known she was this strong if she never let anyone see it and so many Warriors getting it wrong? All they should have known, as Orsay said: No matter what Yoma she faces, she slays them without exhausting her Yoma power." This is enough to let someone just ahead of someone with even a fight? "we still don't know how strong she is after the 10%.. and she used it 3 times only (twice against Priscilla and once against Rosemary -this once tells us alot-).." We don't know if Teresa even needed to use 10%, she did twist Rosemary's arm off and get away without using 10%, she only said: "I uasually don't do this often... But I feel that if I don't at least once in a while... I'll forget how to" In the end your right about the loop, and that it was kinda fun getting into such a discussion... - the fact that you're disrespectful. And in the end there might not be enough information on this to fully concluded if Rosemary was a true Abyssal or not; being there was only one chapter/fight scene and only what Hysteria said. I'm done with this topic, GG. |
Major_AwesomeJul 7, 2014 11:22 PM
Major_Awesome said: First of all: "It was fun discussion... but I said all I have wanted to...[/s] & I don't want us to go through the same loop. :p" But yet you put in unnecessary things like ".." at the end of your sentences like you're criticizing. (It should be "..." by the way.) You point out a typing mistake that wasn't necessary to do as well. Do you really expect someone to not reply if you're being disrespectful? It's like your trying to keep this going. I would have let this go if you hadn't just done what you did and I would have accepted: "Me: Rosemary = Abyssal. You: Rosemary ≠ Abyssal." To part 1: I don't know why you keep repeating "She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones.. she's that OP.. she's a special case any no.1 will become no.2 behind Teresa.. this is a fact!" We all know that if there was an average #1 she would get moved aside if someone like Teresa came along. But you forget that: like the gap between 5&6 there is another at 1&2 and it's something that isn't easily crossed. And there situation wasn't normal, so just because Rosemary got the #1 set doesn't mean that she automatically became an Abyssal. "She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones" Is a stupid remark and an impossibility, how can you say she is the strongest in all time? To part 2: "doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long" It does... Let's say Rosemary got the #1 set only because she killed Hysteria and after a few days the Organization finds out "Hey, it was actually because of Teresa that Rosemary killed Hysteria.", so what you're saying is that because she was given the #1 set she automatically became a true #1 after just being a #4. Roxanne was just a special case not only that but as Renee said "If any of the low ranking soldiers were to have gone up in rank, I'm sure they would be widely spoken about..." Now how many Warrior have done what Roxanne did out of 150+ generations of Warriors? Now we know that the survivors of the north trained for 7 years as Deneve said: "Otherwise what was the point training these last 7 years 'til we puked blood." and yet none of them reached #1 level? Clare being #47 and Miria being number #6 still didn't reach this. To Part 3: What Dae would have seen was, besides other wounds that may have been there, is one that killed Hysteria and one that dulled her movements. Now as Ponygon said: "because all the blades are the same and Teresa does not have a signature sword strike that would make it obvious that Teresa did it." This is true, but there were still people there to see this happen and your telling me no one could have said who did what? To Part 4: And Rosemary ISN'T Roxanne..! So how do you know she climbed so easily afterword? The men of the Organization named off all the #1's that were above the rest and Roxanne was there, but Rosemary wasn't. So how would Rosemary have done this... Oh that's right "Rosemary became a no.1 at some point.. doesn't matter what's the reason or how or how long!", so YOLO happened. To Part 5: "Teresa was in their generation because she's that strong even without releasing any yoki, she's stronger than anyone.." Not even Irene or Rosemary knew that Teresa was this strong, as they were both surprised when she went to 10%, so why would the Organization just have Rosemary give up her spot like that then without knowing Teresa full might? Give me an answer to this, without saying "she's that OP". How would have the Organization have known she was this strong if she never let anyone see it and so many Warriors getting it wrong? All they should have known, as Orsay said: No matter what Yoma she faces, she slays them without exhausting her Yoma power." This is enough to let someone just ahead of someone with even a fight? "we still don't know how strong she is after the 10%.. and she used it 3 times only (twice against Priscilla and once against Rosemary -this once tells us alot-).." We don't know if Teresa even needed to use 10%, she did twist Rosemary's arm off and get away without using 10%, she only said: "I uasually don't do this often... But I feel that if I don't at least once in a while... I'll forget how to" In the end your right about the loop, and that it was kinda fun getting into such a discussion... - the fact that you're disrespectful. And in the end there might not be enough information on this to fully concluded if Rosemary was a true Abyssal or not; being there was only one chapter/fight scene and only what Hysteria said. I'm done with this topic, GG. But yet you put in unnecessary things like ".." at the end of your sentences like you're criticizing. (It should be "..." by the way.) You point out a typing mistake that wasn't necessary to do as well. Do you really expect someone to not reply if you're being disrespectful? It's like your trying to keep this going. I apologize for using ".." , but that's the way i type on the internet [i almost used it here, but i won't use it in this comment :p]. i wasn't "criticizing" or trying to be disrespectful at all. you can go to the first post in this thread, i used it there and in almost every post i posted on MAL or any other site/forum. like i said it's just the way i type, i apologize for that. i pointed the small mistake not to be disrespectful but to show my agreement with what you said. and i apologize for that, too. "She's #1 not only to this generation but also to all the previous & future ones" Is a stupid remark and an impossibility, how can you say she is the strongest in all time? what i said wasn't stupid at all. it's in the manga. Teresa is the strongest. to "this generation" = her & Rosemary's , "the previuos ones" = from the 1st generation (Isley's) to (Teresa's) & "the future ones" = any generation after Teresa's until the current one. i didn't say all time. maybe a new claymores will come later on who know. but Teresa is the strongest in all the generations up there. so why would the Organization just have Rosemary give up her spot like that then without knowing Teresa full might? Give me an answer to this, without saying "she's that OP". i answered with this. Teresa answered that with a straight forward answer.. here: similar to why the organization just have Irene give up her #2 spot to Priscilla without knowing her exact full might. they knew she has potential but not her full might. because she's that stronger -than Irene- without showing her full might, she took #2 spot in short time -few months-, despite being new at the time. I said that i said all i have want to. but i read your comment & you directed these questions to me. it will be disrespectful to ignore them. In the end your right about the loop, and that it was kinda fun getting into such a discussion... - the fact that you're disrespectful. I did enjoy the discussion but it seems you didn't. :( I apologize again. and i explained it up in my comment. |
Satou0KunJul 8, 2014 12:48 PM
| > Internet Arguments Teh lulz. |
| 「一人殺せば犯罪者だけど、千人殺せば英雄になれる。百万人殺せば征服者だし、絶滅させれば神よ」 |
| Te-re-sa! Te-re-sa! XD 4/5 |
| So Teresa is the kakuseisha form of Claire, does it means that when the fight is over she will be gone and Claire back? We can't have both? =/ |
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| From DBZ to Naruto, now claymores are powered by FEEEEELINGS and Priscilla is HAAAAAAATE, so we need PEAAAAAACE.....fuck this shit. I don't know how much more of this i can handle. |
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| Teresa attacks to Priscilla, but there aren´t some win in this time!!! |
| Sweet moment where Teresa talks to Clare's comrades. |
| I prefer for them to have a 1 on 1 battle, don't ruin it with the power of friendship please.... |
| Cmon Teresa finish this! |
| Sorry for my english xD! RIP Kentaro Miura :( RIP Akira Toriyama :(  |
| Yes yes Clare deserves all the head pats! |
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