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| Can anyone explains me how they work? I know how to win in mahjojg etc. Richii is one han etc. But I just don't get the dora's. Some people get insane ammounts of han because of dora's. |
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| I don't know if i'm right but well here I go. The dora are the first of each type (1 bamboo as an exemple) and more you have of them in your final hand more han you get. There's only 12 dora versus 96 other tiles, let alone the dragon tiles and the others special tiles so getting a dora in a hand is not as easy as it seem. Still we are in Saki so % don't matter. (Stupid shit you shouldn't listen, go see next post) |
AlycenAug 6, 2009 10:29 AM
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maxime1007 said: I don't know if i'm right but well here I go. The dora are the first of each type (1 bamboo as an exemple) and more you have of them in your final hand more han you get. There's only 12 dora versus 96 other tiles, let alone the dragon tiles and the others special tiles so getting a dora in a hand is not as easy as it seem. Still we are in Saki so % don't matter. You're wrong. 1 dora tile = 1 han The dora indicator is the tile you can see face up in the dead wall. After every called kan, there's a new dora indicator. Dora indicator =/= dora! The dora is the next tile after the dora indicator. For example, if the dora indicator is 1 dots, the dora would be 2 dots, etc. |
seishi-samaAug 6, 2009 10:31 AM
seishi-sama said: maxime1007 said: I don't know if i'm right but well here I go. The dora are the first of each type (1 bamboo as an exemple) and more you have of them in your final hand more han you get. There's only 12 dora versus 96 other tiles, let alone the dragon tiles and the others special tiles so getting a dora in a hand is not as easy as it seem. Still we are in Saki so % don't matter. You're wrong. 1 dora tile = 1 han The dora indicator is the tile you can see face up in the dead wall. After every called kan, there's a new dora indicator. Okay I always tough that it was the first of each kind, thanks for having cleared it up for me XD |
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| to add to what seishi said, the dora tile is not the dora indicator, but rather the successor to that tile, so same suit, but one tile higher. So if the dora indicator is 3 bamboo, then the dora tile is 4 bamboo. For winds it's East -> South -> West -> North, and for Dragons, Red-> White -> Green. lol edit |
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Saitoe said: to add to what seishi said, the dora tile is not the dora indicator, but rather the successor to that tile, so same suit, but one tile higher. So if the dora indicator is 3 bamboo, then the dora tile is 4 bamboo. For winds it's East -> South -> West -> North, and for Dragons, Red-> White -> Green. lol edit Oh I see. And how to people get insane dora's? Like from 1 han hand to 9 han hand because of dora's. |
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ragnaroks said: Oh I see. And how to people get insane dora's? Like from 1 han hand to 9 han hand because of dora's. As I said, after every called kan there's a new dora indicator and a new dora. But the previous one still counts. So, for example, you get 3 dora, then you (or someone else) call a kan, you get 3 new dora in addition to the previous 3, etc, etc. I once tried to get a hand with as much dora tiles as possible, so far the most successful attempt was getting 5 dora tiles (3 of the same kind and a pair). |
| And note that in Saki % of getting a hand means crap, it is possible to get a shitload of dora but the % is really really low as well. |
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| Wow those dora's making mahjong way more entertaining. First hanchan me as dealer, triple dora scoring a haneman worth 18000 pt ^_^ ( http://i25.tinypic.com/4huwyx.jpg ) Also, how does the fu and han counting works? I see sometimes people get mass hans but the payout is sometimes low. One more thing, as dealer you receive double the points when you win but have to pay double the points if you lose points right? Edit: 6 minutes later, still me as dealer scoring another haneman but only 6000 points from all. Why not 18000 from all like above? Is it because I didn't tsumo? http://i30.tinypic.com/2z8n3iq.jpg |
ragnaroksAug 7, 2009 3:21 AM
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ragnaroks said: Wow those dora's making mahjong way more entertaining. First hanchan me as dealer, triple dora scoring a haneman worth 18000 pt ^_^ ( http://i25.tinypic.com/4huwyx.jpg ) Also, how does the fu and han counting works? I see sometimes people get mass hans but the payout is sometimes low. One more thing, as dealer you receive double the points when you win but have to pay double the points if you lose points right? Edit: 6 minutes later, still me as dealer scoring another haneman but only 6000 points from all. Why not 18000 from all like above? Is it because I didn't tsumo? http://i30.tinypic.com/2z8n3iq.jpg 18000 is the maximum you could get from a 6-han haneman. When you win with self-picked tile (tsumo), your winnings are paid by all other players. When you win with a tile discarded by another player (ron), that player is the only one who pays you. So, the first time, you win by ron and got 18000 from a single player, and the second time you won by tsumo and got 6000 from each = 18000 as well. Also, read this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Mahjong_scoring_rules And here's a pretty fun hand for you to look at (has both dora and ura-dora tiles). :) |
| I've been wondering for a while, I tried to play mahjong but I only could play the traditional chinese one. I would want to try out the japanese mahjong, is there a place where I can play online? |
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| I used to play the chinese one too but I like the japanese one way more. ^_^ http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/mahjong/mahjong_e.html Note: It can get very addictive. I played a full match today, took like 3 hours and I managed to score the 2nd place on ranking :P |
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| I meant playing with real player, not against computer otherwise I would have asked a soft for that xD. |
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maxime1007 said: I meant playing with real player, not against computer otherwise I would have asked a soft for that xD. On tenhou.net But it's in Japanese. |
seishi-sama said: maxime1007 said: I meant playing with real player, not against computer otherwise I would have asked a soft for that xD. On tenhou.net But it's in Japanese. All we need is a quick guide how to install and register stuffs etc to get it working ^_^ |
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| Thanks I'll check that someday for sure =D. |
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| I managed to get it working, it's pretty awesome. If anyone needs some help just PM me. |
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| I couldn't get what would mean to play into someone's riichi? How can a single riichi show make you realize what you shouldn't discard? And the chance to discard exactly what you shouldn't even if you don't pay attention to the riichi (I think) are in general small. |
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| Well basically you look at the player's discard pool to know what to discard or not. In mahjong a person can't win on a tile that he/she has already discarded. Therefore, tiles become safe if they have been discarded by the player and those that are discarded by other players and the player that riiched doesn't win on that tile. That's the easiest way to figure out what tiles are safe or not. Another example is if the player has discarded lots of pin tiles (the dotted tiles) and sou tiles (the green bamboo tiles), you can deduce from this that man tiles (the character tiles) are pretty dangerous for you to discard. That's basically how you want to defend in the case that someone calls riichi. But you can always go damaten (to not call riichi even if you are in tenpai) so people won't be as cautious to play into your hand. |
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