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Aug 5, 2009 3:37 PM
#1
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Great episode! I kinda thought that a bad thing would happen while the play was on-going but all went well! great relief! :p So did fumi realized who the "master of the library" was? |
Aug 5, 2009 5:27 PM
#2
Well that was wonderfully depressing... It's funny how this anime never does anything over the top or melodramatic and yet it can grab you around your heart and just squeeze it. Starts off pretty funny with Akira and her antics in trying to avoid her family. I love how she's supposed to be the "genki girl" and yet nothing she does is typical of the tropes of such a character type. She's reasonably and realistically energetic and cheerful. Not to mention the noises she makes are pretty darn cute (Gurk!). Unlike the manga, the anime went into great detail about each of the plays which was pretty awesome. Seeing kids perform Le Petit Prince in a rather child-like manner is wonderful; if anything, it's much more effective than seeing grown people doing it. It really reveals the innocent ignorance of the characters in the novel... but that's getting off track. I laughed when Beth was bedridden in Little Women, oops. But to take the cake, of course, was that Wuthering Heights production. The theatre geek in me fangirled. No wonder it's such a huge deal--they work like professionals in that school! And ha, even Akira is seeing just what makes girls fall head over heels for Yasuko. I kept thinking that if Ah-chan was another kind of girl, she'd have given Yasuko's hair a nice "accidental" tug (you know, payback for being a playboy), but thankfully, this anime is more mature than that. Again, for some reason, the best and deepest conversations take place between Yasuko and Kyouko. Perhaps it's because they understand one another the best, ironically. Plus, out of all the younger girls, Kyouko is the most mature, so it's expected that she has some insight that the rest do not have. And Yasuko telling her that everyone is selfish is probably the best line of the episode. Because it's true. What is admirable about this anime is that it's not afraid to show us the sides of people that we'd like to pretend don't exist. All of these girls are good people. But even good people can be selfish, as Yasuko points out, and it's not their fault when they do things to hurt people--it's just human nature. I think where she says she doesn't like a woman like Catherine is just her being jealous that Catherine, in all her selfishness, is at least open and honest. I think part of me died a little when Fumi went running to get Yasuko some (blue TwT) flowers. It was important to her to give that gift to Yasuko and then she saw what she did; Yasuko crying because of Kagami. It just makes you feel a little horrible over how bitter that moment was, seeing your girlfriend cry because of someone else and then having her tell you that she loves that someone so much as to do something like that. And yet... the gracefulness of this anime didn't turn that moment into a scene. Let's see, if this were some other piece of crap, the situation would have played out as: "What do you mean!? You love someone else!?!?!!?" "I can't help it! I love you now though!!!! Can't you understand!?!?!" "NO!! I never want to see you again!!! Urusai!!! Leave me alone you jerk!!" "Wait--come back!!! I LOVE YOU!!!" Ahem. I'm sure anyone who is versed in romance anime knows the above situation quite well. But anyway. Aoi Hana is different. Fumi sees something and learns something about Yasuko. Yasuko says that she had a love so great that it had her crying over it, and Fumi quietly listens and accepts what she says. No hysterics, no harsh words, no melodrama. That situation was handled rather maturely, and it really fit the personalities of both Fumi and Yasuko. Fumi, despite us knowing that she's a big crybaby, also knows how to accept things without kicking up a fuss. Yasuko isn't the type to lose her cool over a lovers' spat either. Nice touch about having the characters do all these seemingly little insignificant things that speak volumes about them. For example, the scene where Kou is waiting for Kyouko doesn't even last more than five seconds, but it says so much about him. He kept his word and while everyone is filtering out and leaving, he's there waiting for his fiancée just as he said he would. I can see maybe Kyouko getting over Yasuko and reciprocating his feelings someday (I mean, she seemed pretty accepting about him being there, she even blushed when he was speaking her methinks, though she kept brushing him off. If she really didn't want to have anything to do with him, she would have avoided him in the first place). All in all, spectacular episode, and so we're well into Vol. 2's contents. Looking forward to the next episode. It's nice to watch an anime that leaves you feeling a deep sense of satisfaction at the end of each episode. |
Aug 5, 2009 7:38 PM
#3
Seeing Akira's embarassment of her family was good, and the guys v. girls thing when the Akira and her mom were gushing over Wuthering Heights was great. The light booth was also a nice touch - these girls are serious about their plays, it seems. I keep on thinking about Glass Mask when I see those plays. It makes me wonder though: are those plays the standard plays people do in Japanese schools? And ha, even Akira is seeing just what makes girls fall head over heels for Yasuko. Yasuko is really a smooth talker, ha. Elementary kids, Akira, she's pretty indiscriminate. Definitely the selfish, uninhibited type. That is why I sense a little self-hatred when she mentioned she hated Catherine. Though at first I thought it was meant to hurt Kyouko, I don't think Yasuko is deliberate enough to hurt someone (even if it would be good for her/him). The running with flowers scene was a deliberate setup, but seeing Yasuko cry over a simple thank you from the teacher was great - I feel like I'm seeing her real self or something. The 'taboo' relationship is being used well, especially with the mystery behind it. I didn't even see Kou 'til the second time, and I think Fumi accepted Yasuko's explanation because she already knew that Yasuko's feelings wasn't a betrayal but rather something that was lingering in her. It's not something she can really do anything about, except wait. Great episode all in all. |
fisher_88Aug 5, 2009 7:50 PM
Aug 5, 2009 7:48 PM
#4
fisher_88 said: It makes me wonder though: are those plays the standard plays people do in Japanese schools?. I think its a pretty common club, but not all school has one, so it depends. I spent my elementary/high school years in Philippines and I have been hearing that they have similar systems so I'm not really sure, this are only my thoughts It's nice to watch an anime that leaves you feeling a deep sense of satisfaction at the end of each episode. I agree. Something that is "a must" for me on watching slice of life animes :) |
Aug 6, 2009 1:17 AM
#5
Most of anything I would like to say has been said, so I'll just settle for "I liked this episode" and save us all some time. ^_^ |
Aug 6, 2009 3:21 AM
#6
fisher_88 said: Seeing Akira's embarassment of her family was good, and the guys v. girls thing when the Akira and her mom were gushing over Wuthering Heights was great. Aoi Hana enjoys giving us contrast. It's notable how much of a family girl Akira is really. If you look at it this way, a lot of this anime is about how she and Fumi are so vastly different and yet they have something between them that draws them to one another and makes them best friends. Akira clearly, despite all her hemming and hawing about how embarrassing they are, loves her family a lot. Look how well she gets along with them. In fact, nearly 95% of Akira's scenes at home, she's talking to either her brother, her mom or her dad, or all of them. Direct contrast to Fumi, who doesn't seem to talk to anyone in her family at all (except Chizu, and we know the kind of, er, talking they did) beyond pleasantries. fisher_88 said: It makes me wonder though: are those plays the standard plays people do in Japanese schools? Well, I think they went with a theme for that year. All the plays were by foreigners, based on books written by an Englishwoman, a Frenchman and an American woman. Considering the type of school Fujigaya is (Catholic, private, elevator, elite), it's not unusual I suspect that they be tackling heavy foreign material especially if English and French is part of the curriculum. And it probably is, given the rabid amounts of (misused) English and French you see in anime over the decades. Just pick up any shoujo title from the 70s, you'd swear most of the characters went to a French boarding school for three weeks and then came back to Japan. fisher_88 said: Yasuko is really a smooth talker, ha. Elementary kids, Akira, she's pretty indiscriminate. Definitely the selfish, uninhibited type. That is why I sense a little self-hatred when she mentioned she hated Catherine. Though at first I thought it was meant to hurt Kyouko, I don't think Yasuko is deliberate enough to hurt someone (even if it would be good for her/him). This reminds me of something I said in another forum about that scene in the last episode where Yasuko and Kyouko were chatting in private: Sugimoto is an unintentionally cruel person. She also has rejected Kyouko, and she knows just how much the girl is in love with her. By being nonchalant is the most painful thing she can do to Kyoko, and she does it not because she's wicked, but because she wants Kyoko to get over her. It's sort of like... how to explain. "You like me but you shouldn't. I will never love you back. I'm not as good as you think I am." That's what Yasuko is trying to say to Kyoko but she cannot verbalise it because the younger girl will never listen to her. Kyoko is strong minded and persistent and Yasuko knows this. So by being that way to her, she's thinking Kyouko will be hurt by her actions enough to start "hating" her. Also, it keeps with Yasuko's personality. She's a flirt. She's got an offhand way about her that makes her rather careless and uncaring about things. So by being a little smooth around Kyouko, even when the other girl is pining for her, that's just Yasuko's way. In relation to this scene, it does seem like she might be referring to herself. When Kyouko says that she can understand a character like Catherine, Yasuko saying she dislikes girls like that might have been her way of saying to Kyouko that "you shouldn't like me" because Yasuko is exactly like that. Or, depending on which way you want it to flow, it could be that she's saying she doesn't like persistent girls like Kyouko who won't give up on her and let her be free. The latter makes sense when (much later in the manga): Kyouko has a conversation with Yasuko's eldest sister, and she says that people like her and Yasuko are convenient targets to other people's affections. And then they end up getting the blame when they don't return those feelings. Which basically means that Yasuko, at that point, finds Kyouko to be selfish because she's putting a lot on Yasuko and Yasuko clearly stated to her that nothing is gonna happen between them. That's what I like about the dialogue in this anime--it's laden so that you can interpret it in any which way you can. fisher_88 said: I didn't even see Kou 'til the second time, and I think Fumi accepted Yasuko's explanation because she already knew that Yasuko's feelings wasn't a betrayal but rather something that was lingering in her. It's not something she can really do anything about, except wait. Great episode all in all. I think Fumi accepted Yasuko's explanation because she's very aware of the obvious. A lot of people aren't giving Fumi any credit, and it's because they're not paying attention to her at all. All they're doing is either sympathising with her or finding her to be weak, but what they fail to see it that THAT'S her personality flaw--she's a weak person, on the outside, that is. I find Fumi, even with all the waterworks, to be one of the most emotionally strong characters in the cast. Look at it this way. She got shafted by her cousin, who she realised was just using her or playing around. This is the woman she probably lost her virginity to, the one friend she had when she moved back, the only person in her family she could open up to, and that person betrayed her. So wtf is the problem is she starts crying every couple of minutes about it? Did she start shouting? No. Screaming? No. Did she go tell everybody in the world how much Chizu sucks? No. She accepted it, and through accepting it, the pain makes her cry. I think she's pretty selfless in that respect, since she's not burdening people with the truth of her emotional problems. Then take her coming out to Akira. In other respects, she is more brave than a lot of people even though she's shy as hell. Which 16 year old girl, who is private and quiet as hell, will come out of the closet to another girl? When the possibility of being called a freak or disgusting is there? Not many. There are adults who don't even come out! But Fumi did. A lot of Fumi's strength comes from the inside, not the outside. I think people are missing that entirely. Wait... where did that rant come from?? |
Aug 6, 2009 8:32 AM
#7
The play was really good :D Lovely episode. |
Aug 6, 2009 12:24 PM
#8
Just wanted to report a mistranslation by CR that could lead to misunderstanding. CR's line Yasuko: "I loved them and they loved me" Correct line Yasuko: "I loved them (or "I was in love") but it was only me who felt that way." Anyway, this isn't the first time that CR's messed up an important line like this one. Here the mistranslation hints that Kagami might have feelings for Yasuko, but the reality is that Yasuko outright states the her love was one-sided. |
Aug 6, 2009 12:46 PM
#9
1idd0kun said: Just wanted to report a mistranslation by CR that could lead to misunderstanding. CR's line Yasuko: "I loved them and they loved me" Correct line Yasuko: "I loved them (or "I was in love") but it was only me who felt that way." Anyway, this isn't the first time that CR's messed up an important line like this one. Here the mistranslation hints that Kagami might have feelings for Yasuko, but the reality is that Yasuko outright states the her love was one-sided. This is getting ridiculous. It's as if the translator is mistranslating it deliberately. For those who didn't catch it yet: Sugimoto and Kagami were NEVER in any relationship. That said, I loved this episode (of course). I'll be honest.. the build-up of the flower scene was so well done that I could barely stand to watch it. It was just that painful. |
Aug 6, 2009 5:13 PM
#10
I thought something worse would happen...but I guess it went somewhat smoothly. This show has a nice feeling to it. |
Aug 6, 2009 6:23 PM
#11
1idd0kun said: Just wanted to report a mistranslation by CR that could lead to misunderstanding. CR's line Yasuko: "I loved them and they loved me" Correct line Yasuko: "I loved them (or "I was in love") but it was only me who felt that way." Anyway, this isn't the first time that CR's messed up an important line like this one. Here the mistranslation hints that Kagami might have feelings for Yasuko, but the reality is that Yasuko outright states the her love was one-sided. Wow, that is a pretty big difference. Does Crunchyroll have some way to report mistranslated lines? It would be nice if they could fix that line, and then maybe employ some sort of quality check to prevent this from happening again? Just a thought. Oh, and yeah this was an awesome episode. |
Aug 6, 2009 11:35 PM
#12
tehnominator said: Considering the type of school Fujigaya is (Catholic, private, elevator, elite), it's not unusual I suspect that they be tackling heavy foreign material especially if English and French is part of the curriculum. And it probably is, given the rabid amounts of (misused) English and French you see in anime over the decades. Just pick up any shoujo title from the 70s, you'd swear most of the characters went to a French boarding school for three weeks and then came back to Japan. yeah, this makes a lot of sense. tehnominator said: It's sort of like... how to explain. "You like me but you shouldn't. I will never love you back. I'm not as good as you think I am." That's what Yasuko is trying to say to Kyoko but she cannot verbalise it because the younger girl will never listen to her. Kyoko is strong minded and persistent and Yasuko knows this. So by being that way to her, she's thinking Kyouko will be hurt by her actions enough to start "hating" her. I am in line with your explanation, and this, with the mistranslation, makes me think that Yasuko's relationship was similar to Fumi's, keeping in line with the 'taboo' aspect of it. What I mean is that Yasuko was in love with Kagami, who is in a relation with someone close to her (parent/teacher/cousin?). Well, my shoujo-reading abilities are pretty weak nowadays, so there. (though I don't want to read the manga until this series has finished) I think Fumi accepted Yasuko's explanation because she's very aware of the obvious. A lot of people aren't giving Fumi any credit, and it's because they're not paying attention to her at all. In response to this part of your quote, I partly agree. I agree with the part about how Fumi has inner strength beyond compare, evidenced in confessing to Akira about her relationship as well as the other instances you mentioned. On the other hand, I do think she has problems imposing herself on others, and watching it again, I'm now unsure as to whether she accepted Yasuko's explanation or just bit her lip. Normally, I'd go with the former, but I still have this nagging feeling from past episodes about how unbalanced and weak this relationship is founded. It seems at first glance that Fumi was dragged into a relationship by Yasuko's charms, and Fumi is deeply insecure about this. So maybe Fumi did bite her lip, and if she doesn't do anything, there will be problems later on. Their relationship is too unbalanced right now. |
fisher_88Aug 6, 2009 11:41 PM
Aug 7, 2009 12:15 AM
#13
fisher_88 said: I am in line with your explanation, and this, with the mistranslation, makes me think that Yasuko's relationship was similar to Fumi's, keeping in line with the 'taboo' aspect of it. What I mean is that Yasuko was in love with Kagami, who is in a relation with someone close to her (parent/teacher/cousin?). Well, my shoujo-reading abilities are pretty weak nowadays, so there. (though I don't want to read the manga until this series has finished) Thankfully I read the manga first, so I was very "o_O What did I just read...?" when I saw those subs. And Kagami's relation to Yasuko at this point is clearly teacher/student. In the flashback, we see Yasuko in a Fujigaya uniform, meaning that she attended the school and had been around Kagami for some time. fisher_88 said: On the other hand, I do think she has problems imposing herself on others, and watching it again, I'm now unsure as to whether she accepted Yasuko's explanation or just bit her lip. Lip-biting on her part seems to be the natural conclusion to be drawn. Fumi doesn't speak unnecessarily, if you notice. When she opens her mouth to talk, it's usually not something inane and flippant. Which is why she's so much quieter around Yasuko. She doesn't hem and haw around what she wants to say. She doesn't skirt around issues. She gets to the point like a true pragmatist does. For example, in the previous episode, when Yasuko asks her playfully if she's jealous of her fangirls, Fumi openly and clearly and honestly says that she probably is. Most other people would find some way to skirt around that, but it's her character to be forthright. And when she doesn't have the gall to be open about something, she keeps it bottled up. So I think she wants to give Yasuko a piece of her mind, but lacking resolve to do so (since she probably knows if she says something, it will be the brutal truth, which is something neither of them are ready for). Thus, in an effort to keep playing this game a little longer, or just trying to ignore it (because Fumi's a smart girl--she knows a problem exists. She just wants a little more time to not have to deal with it head on just yet), Fumi will remain quiet. fisher_88 said: Normally, I'd go with the former, but I still have this nagging feeling from past episodes about how unbalanced and weak this relationship is founded. Manga semi-spoilers (though if you rationalise the events that have passed in this episode, they're not spoilers, but for the sake of anyone who insists that they are...) up to the middle of Vol. 2: Yasuko and Fumi realise at a later point that they are one another's "rebound". It was a relationship based on mutual attraction, though not one of love. They came to care for one another, undoubtedly, but they each went into the relationship looking for a way to cover up the pains of their formerly failed romances; Yasuko with Kagami, Fumi with Chizu. In short, being together was a convenience, a distraction, something sweet to mask the bitterness they felt. Neither one of them probably expected the relationship to last anyway. They wanted love, needed affection, and lo and behold, they found one another. So it is a weak foundation for a relationship. And Fumi knows this, which is why she doesn't kick up a fuss with Yasuko when their relationship hits those bumps. This is not the woman she wants to make a future with. If it was, I suspect she'd try a little harder. fisher_88 said: It seems at first glance that Fumi was dragged into a relationship by Yasuko's charms, and Fumi is deeply insecure about this. So maybe Fumi did bite her lip, and if she doesn't do anything, there will be problems later on. Their relationship is too unbalanced right now. Don't say "dragged" :( It makes it sound like she didn't want a part of it, which is untrue. Fumi DIDN'T have to go to Fujigaya with Yasuko, but she did. She didn't have to say "yes" to a date, but she did. She could have pushed Yasuko away when she leaned in for a kiss, but she didn't. Surely she is swept away by the charms of the older girl, but as Akira mulls over, who isn't? Which makes Yasuko a very tomboyish femme fatale. A real lady-killer of you ever saw one. Fumi's a girl. And she's a girl who likes girls. Nothing with a uterus can deny Yasuko's subtly devilish, laidback charms. Ah, unbalance. We have to remember, Fumi's two years younger. Her personality is different from Yasuko as well. There is an unevenness to their relationship, whether it be Fumi's greater life experiences or Yasuko's deeper maturity. Or even on the negative side, with Fumi's naivete or Yasuko's aloofness. |
Aug 7, 2009 1:43 AM
#14
saxophone said: I thought something worse would happen...but I guess it went somewhat smoothly. This show has a nice feeling to it. Yeah I was anticipating huge a 404 sh*storm drama bomb, but it ended without any pain there. |
Aug 7, 2009 2:12 PM
#15
tehnominator said: Yasuko and Fumi realise at a later point that they are one another's "rebound". It was a relationship based on mutual attraction, though not one of love. They came to care for one another, undoubtedly, but they each went into the relationship looking for a way to cover up the pains of their formerly failed romances; Yasuko with Kagami, Fumi with Chizu. In short, being together was a convenience, a distraction, something sweet to mask the bitterness they felt. Neither one of them probably expected the relationship to last anyway. They wanted love, needed affection, and lo and behold, they found one another. So it is a weak foundation for a relationship. And Fumi knows this, which is why she doesn't kick up a fuss with Yasuko when their relationship hits those bumps. This is not the woman she wants to make a future with. If it was, I suspect she'd try a little harder. I agree with pretty much everything you said, except this bit in spoiler tag. First, it wasn't a mutual understanding, something both of them realized. It was Yasuko who said that, and I never felt that Fumi agreed with her. For Yasuko, what she said might have been true, because she wasn't strong enough to give up on Kagami and move on. But that wasn't the case with Fumi, and while she was still morning her failed "relationship" with Chizu when she started things with Yasuko, she quickly moved on. I'm absolutely sure of that because that's how Fumi is... Fumi is the kind of person who doesn't waste her time with lost battles, so when she realized that Yasuko just couldn't get over Kagami, she gave up. She gave up gracefully, and said to Yasuko that she should focus on the person she loves, and if that person doesn't return the feeling, then she should gracefully give up (like she did). So it's not that she didn't love Yasuko; she really did. But she knew Yasuko just could not forget Kagami. And she was right, because ultimately Yasuko had to left the country to try and get over him. |
Aug 7, 2009 11:28 PM
#16
This show is easily one of the better anime i've seen this season |
"Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
Aug 8, 2009 2:37 AM
#17
I just now that is this is probably going to be on my top when it finishes. |
Aug 15, 2009 2:11 PM
#19
Simple episode but not bad... that little character interactions were nice and built a little more depth to the relationships. |
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Aug 15, 2009 7:35 PM
#20
Aug 16, 2009 1:22 PM
#21
Wurthing Heights is exactly the kind of story I don't like, so I didn't really care for those parts of this episode. but I got the impression that Sugimoto's problem with Catherine was more that she saw some part of herself in her than for any other reason. the scene from Little Women was a huge spoiler, hope it doesn't ruin the book for too many people :( I have to wonder if Fumi really does except it or if she's just afraid to kick up a fuss. even if it is a one-sided love, it doesn't change the fact that her girlfriend is more in love with someone else than she is with Fumi, and there's no way that doesn't hurt someone like her. feeling bad for Ko, think he might actually love his fiance. 1idd0kun said: Just wanted to report a mistranslation by CR that could lead to misunderstanding. CR's line Yasuko: "I loved them and they loved me" Correct line Yasuko: "I loved them (or "I was in love") but it was only me who felt that way." this was fixed by the time I watched it. |
Aug 16, 2009 10:11 PM
#22
I am very impressed that episode still have a nice pace, and I have to wonder if Fumi really have to like Sugimoto despite her past about her former lover. |
Aug 18, 2009 5:23 PM
#23
Aug 19, 2009 1:19 PM
#24
Aug 19, 2009 5:15 PM
#25
Aug 19, 2009 7:07 PM
#26
saxophone said: I thought something worse would happen...but I guess it went somewhat smoothly. This show has a nice feeling to it. I had the exact feeling when Fumi was running down the hallway with flowers, I even thought man.. I just know something bad is gonna happen, something did kinda, but not NEARLY as bad as I thought it would |
NyantaAug 19, 2009 7:12 PM
Aug 19, 2009 7:39 PM
#27
EDIT: Posted the comment in the wrong topic. |
May 23, 2010 7:21 AM
#29
wow, this episode was awesome :3 |
Jun 19, 2010 10:10 PM
#30
Mar 27, 2011 10:25 PM
#31
The play was good. |
Mar 6, 2012 5:52 PM
#32
I absolutely love that they actually gave more than 1 minute to this play. I have seen the "play production" scenario before, and there could be 10 episodes prior to the whole show, the sub plot being all the preparation for the big day and when it finally comes you only get a short highlight clip. So wow, this was very refreshing! I also have to say that I have harbored unpleasant feelings toward Yasuko in the past, but now I realize I can't hold anything against her. She is just as real as the rest of the class and may just be far more hurt than I ever realized. |
Jun 18, 2014 11:31 PM
#33
10/10 play great dialogue between Sugimoto and Ikumi |
Aug 18, 2014 4:55 AM
#34
A-chan's brother: "What a selfish woman!" Mother: "SSSSSHHHH" Jesus Christ lol Everything is so realistic. I applaud to that. |
Nov 22, 2014 12:09 AM
#35
I guess its just me, but I didn't like this one too much...Decent but nothing great imo |
Jan 21, 2017 1:06 AM
#37
I've been loving everything so far. But I just have this feeling in my gut telling me that something really bad is going to happen. Not like a death or something, but that Fumi and Yasuko will eventually break up... Well, the opening pretty much screams & spoils who is the OTP, but... Well. Anyway. This episode made me feel like the bad thing would happen in this episode, but things went well. That bouquet left at a random table at the end didn't feel that good though. Will they break up in the next episode? Let's see. |
Apr 13, 2017 8:44 AM
#38
@tehnominator Your analytic posts are great as usual! Perhaps it's not that important, but it's an interesting question, who's the primary protagonist in this story. I can argue for both Fumi and Akira. Akira is the one who's usually more out-of-the-loop and discovers developments later, and she's the one who is most often forced to play the role of the mitigator. Kind of like the "Kirk" of the story, given the latter trait. She wants everyone to be friends, and she's almost never too afraid to swoop in to meddle when she feels necessary. However, Fumi is the one who is the source of the bulk of the conflicts, and it's her thoughts and emotions that we witness the most often. She's the one who is the most willing to go against the status quo, both in the abstract social sense and storywise. I really appreciate that so far, none of the main girls are made out to be the villain. In a typical romance narrative, Kyouko would turn out to be manipulative, malicious or just plain unlikable. |
Mar 25, 2020 5:07 AM
#39
Fate making them meet, hm.. I never really understood why The Little Prince is given in one form or another to children.. It just doesn't make sense to me personally.. I wasn't really able to enjoy or understand even bits of characterization in this story till my late teen years, probably.. This book is really not for children, in my opinion.. It's only in my opinion, though.. Fumi and Sugimoto finally talked about Sugimoto's past love.. It's in the past, though, as Sugimoto said.. Though, with this anime it is really hard, really, to expect one or other things.. Many people have complicated relationships with each other.. And only a coincidence, some random thing really would be enough to change relationship statuses drastically.. For now.. I've been enjoying Fumi's and Sugimoto's relationship.. I hope that even if they fall apart for some reason.. That they still remember this time together warmly.. |
Oct 31, 2021 8:58 AM
#40
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