It’s a matter of having different worldviews, but I strongly disagree with the idea that hope by itself is devoid of value. You may be totally incompetent or unlucky, yet still, you can inspire or even help others achieve your dream. You see, Kamina IS a messiah. That is one of the most important things the show has to say. He is a complete idiot with barely any knowledge or experience, yet he stirred thousands of people into taking action simply by his unwavering resolve not to submit to oppression. Your hate for Kamina seems baseless to me. Nowhere is the show trying to say "don't believe, until you're graced by someone better than you, and THEN you can believe and unleash your true potential!!". I can understand doing XYZ and then realizing it’s not possible for you, but Simon was refusing the belief Kamina put in him and was actively trying to fool himself into thinking that XYZ is impossible just because he was too scared. If you ask me, that is a very self-afflicting worldview to harbour.
Kamina did not contribute anything tangible. Simon always had the potential to change the universe. All the NPCs through their combined effort could’ve always achieved the amazing things they did. But what they did lack was the unwavering belief Kamina put in them. I don’t see what’s so unbelievable about the changes they undergo because of Kamina. That’s how it has been in real life too. Most revolutions and uprisings have had some central figures, who inspired others to take action. You could argue that they have always been more competent than Kamina, but that’s not the point. The most important thing they could offer was their belief in change and their faith in their comrades, just like Kamina did. Again, all your combined effort might still fail, but that’s no reason to not take action. Who knows, maybe they’ll tell stories about you to the next generations, instilling faith in them to again take action.
” I would've liked for this excess of hopium to be challenged WAY more not only by the big bads, but also by the ones on Simon's side”
I don’t see why more people are needed to reiterate what Simon has already been saying. Simon’s worldview, as I mentioned above, is very harmful, and Kamina spent a lot of time trying to make him realize that. I don’t think anyone would have been capable of giving a better justification for their pessimism or making Kamina doubt himself (we both know how Kamina is). Kamina would just say the same things and the show would be needlessly overlong.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with either having a lot of hope or just a little. I also don’t think the show is trying to say that having a little hope is wrong. Take the people of Littner village, for example. They could’ve always crawled back underground and away from all the fighting, but they chose not to. Even if they did not have any grand dreams, they believed they had a right to be on the surface and fought for the cause. Eventually that allowed Simon and Kamina to fight the Gunmen and achieve what they did. Simon however did not have any hope at all and was always looking for a way to crawl back into his village in the face of adversity. The show needed to prove Simon wrong, and in my opinion it did so successfully.
”...representing brainrotting schemes as always working better than carefully planned strategies is astoundingly obnoxious.”
You mention how a lot of stuff that happens in the show is conveniently explained through the Power Of The Spiral, and while I can see why it might be unconvincing to some, I don’t see why you take offence to it. Even if the show is exaggerated, it would be no exaggeration to say that humanity has continued to challenge and upset the zeitgeist, always striving for better days.
I think one of the most interesting things that the show has to say is that even if a certain course of action seems to be the most logical and “carefully planned”, if what it achieves goes against your principles, you should refuse to accept it. What Rossiu was trying to do was definitely not evil, in fact, he believed that that was the best course of action for humanity. But ultimately what it did was that it let the Anti-Spiral continue to have their way with humans. Just like Lordgenome, Rossiu gave up the fight against the Anti-Spiral without even trying. That was unacceptable to Simon and others, who’d rather try and fail (even if it meant death) than accept their oppressors.
Lastly, I agree with pretty much everything you have said about Evangelion, but like I said before, there’s nothing wrong with having a lot of hope either, because you do need a lot of hope for a big change. Evangelion deals on a smaller, more personal level while Gurren Lagann deals on a much bigger scale. As far as I’m concerned, that’s pretty much the only difference between Eva and TTGL on a thematic level, and both are equally valuable. It’s important to deal with your own faults, just as it’s important to not let anyone oppress you.
lol comp crashed when I was basically done with my message. I think it's decent by modern shonen standards, and it has some superficial similarity to Chainsaw Man, whether that is something you'd consider a good thing or not, as the author of Dan was a former assistant of CSM's author. Kind of feels like a boss rush thus far, and it has a fairly standard doormat male and aggressive female setup that's so common in anime, but the alien and ghost/psychic contrast make it a little more interesting, especially with Saru's style. I'm usually bored with most shonen because they tend to have bad pacing, but this is fine so far. Not sure if you'd like it at all, as I don't recall you having enjoyed any shonen. You seemed to like CSM alright. CSM was a weaker adaptation compared to the manga I feel (probably everyone agrees because of CGI and so-so coloring and complaints about direction), but I'd guess, so long as there aren't any major issues along the way, Dandadan should be a much stronger adaptation.
About the only one I've been able to get into other than CSM and Idaten Deities. Maybe there were some others. Soul Eater is at least creative with its setting, and HxH I'm not very far into but seems fine. Although I'm strongly impressed by many clips on Sakugabooru for shows like Ninku, I'm pretty sure most of those shows are unwatchable other than cool fights. :S
Nahh, sleep paralysis demon, you're not scary anymore;
'tis the same solution to any nightmare:
once unmasked, it matters not what you
look like, for now i comprehend what you
are and as such, you become a passing
moment, in a collection of passing times,
all to be eventually forgotten in the chaos.
So come take a bite, if you dare,
Hic sunt leones.
Sleep paralysis demon,
Sleep paralysis demon!
Is it true that you taste
like candy? Because I'm
warning you, if you don't
scare me next time, I might
just take a bite..!
Gurren Lagann isn’t trying to downplay the various circumstances that may prevent one from reaching his goal. You may not have the talent, you may not have the resources, you may simply be unlucky. What the show is trying to say is that you can have everything in your favour and you still won’t be able to do anything as long as you don’t have belief. Sure, Simon was lucky to find the artefact, but if he didn’t believe he could go to the surface, he wouldn’t have bothered to do anything with it. If Kamina didn’t believe in him, he would’ve given up very soon. The NPCs weren’t lucky enough to find the artefact, they didn’t enjoy the trust Kamina put in Simon, but what they did was they put their belief in Kamina and Simon and worked hard for their sake; without them, Kamina and Simon couldn’t have done anything. So yeah, belief is not enough, other things do matter; but if you don’t have belief, nothing else matters. Even if you don’t have things in your favour, you can still inspire or help others to reach the common goal.
”...whatever efforts and progress humanity makes in the Kamina City or in the surface are so incredibly anticlimactic and spontaneous that it strikes as asinine and eye-rolling”
Now this is purely subjective, but I can view their “spontaneous” growth as being exaggerated while also recognizing the message it tries to convey: that humanity can and has achieved incredible things in incredibly little time. I can enjoy the sheer absurdity of the final battle because the ultimate message is that despite all our shortcomings, humanity has the potential to do the most incredible stuff.
” This notion of belief as the only and pure fuel for achievement is ridiculous.”
Once again, at the cost of repeating myself, belief isn’t enough, other things do matter, but if you don’t believe, you can have infinite potential and still not achieve anything.
”...one that grows into one of the most OP things in all of anime because of hack Spiral Power.”
Spiral Power is a metaphor for potential. The message is that even losers like Simon may have infinite potential within them. You may view the fact that a person of infinite potential was the one who stumbled upon powerful technology as being plot convenience, but it’s important to understand that Simon originally was no one special; he is representative of all those who don’t believe in themselves. The writer wants to convey that if we believe in ourselves, we might discover the infinite potential within us. Again, we might not have infinite potential within us, but if we don’t believe, we will never come to discover the truth.
” In my honest opinion, just Yui Ikari's monologue of “Anywhere can be paradise" is thousands of times more powerful than anything Gurren Lagann offers.
As someone who also considers himself an Evangelion fan, I would say the two shows have similar messages. By not taking part in the Instrumentality, Shinji showed his resolve to overcome his shortcomings of his own accord. Anywhere can be paradise, if Shinji grows to love himself. Gurren Lagann says that even if the whole multiverse is trying to undermine you, you don’t have to quietly accept your fate, you can believe in yourself (and others) and try to achieve what you desire.
Oh, a DM. I wasn't sure where it was from exactly. That's a precious comment you got. XD
I think it's probably serious in that case but heavily exaggerated to make it seem like "stronger criticism." I guess that person is the Okeanix (Re:Zero superfanboy) of Frieren.
That makes sense, but it makes me wonder about the timeline and all since this has been in production for so long. It's the best animated adaptation of Ito. I haven't seen Gyo. Maybe that has better execution in some sense, but that's way too goofy for me to watch, I think. Honestly, even when Uzumaki looks terrible, I still think it's an interesting visual style for the most part. But after how rushed ep 3 is and thinking of the end to the series, one more ep is way too fast.
lmao at bio pic. That is such a delusional amount of faith put into Frieren. I'd think it were a joke but the fandom is quite intense, so I don't know anymore... XD
I haven't completely read your Gurren Lagann review (definitely a strong contender for the longest review ever on this site), but I believe that a) you’ve missed the point and b) you’re grossly underestimating humanity.
Gurren Lagann doesn’t say “If you believe in yourself and work together, you can achieve anything”. It says that “If you don’t believe in yourself, you can’t achieve anything”. It’s not just “believe in yourself”. It’s “believe in the you (or me) that believes in yourself”. In other words, Gurren Lagann argues that belief is even more fundamental to success than actual progress. Sure, the bonkers scale of Gurren Lagann might seem ridiculous, but humans have also achieved unimaginable things in incredibly little time. It’s not a matter of where society stands or how much actual progress has been made, it’s a matter of whether or not you’re willing to believe in yourself. Gurren Lagann doesn’t say you’re going to succeed; Gurren Lagann says that you have a shot at achieving the most remarkable stuff once you believe. Even a loser like Simon who would have been content with obeying his superior and quietly drilling his whole life has the potential (ie, Spiral Power) to change the course of humanity. You might see all this as being very idealistic and all, but I see it as an overpowering negation of all that undermines humanity. I mean, believing in Gurren Lagann’s worldview makes me feel the most empowered and optimistic I have ever been.
There's a decline in animation quality for episode 2. Maybe there's more CGI, but there are also fewer frames and cruder animation in general. Possibly some pacing issues as well. Ep 3 improves on animation, but the plot cramming is insane. Even at its worst, I find the visuals interesting, but it's not that good of an adaptation.
Oh, I see. Too lazy to use Twitter and don't have an account anymore. XD
I do have a Letterboxd. It's in the sidebar of my profile. The "also available at" part below the friend list. Along with my Sakugabooru that I lost the account details to. :S
I think he has to be. What makes him stand above so many others would definitely be because Monster is seen as the poster boy of "mature," "adult," and "realistic."
lol, no, I probably copy and pasted the exact same tags from a separate entry and didn't highlight everything when pasting. Thanks for the spot.
I love your review on Apothecary Diaries. Even though I enjoyed it more than you did, you brought up valid, constructive feedback. I'm surprised you watched all of it tbh. On closer inspection, the show does start to show its flaws. The MCs are perfect and the cause for the rift in Lakan's and Fengxian's relationship was an undeveloped misunderstanding.
There were a couple characters that didn't like maomao. And there were characters that were more beautiful than her. But the show tried to make her a hero when she didn't need to be one!!
It's reviews like yours that help viewers wake up and help writers work on these issues.
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It’s a matter of having different worldviews, but I strongly disagree with the idea that hope by itself is devoid of value. You may be totally incompetent or unlucky, yet still, you can inspire or even help others achieve your dream. You see, Kamina IS a messiah. That is one of the most important things the show has to say. He is a complete idiot with barely any knowledge or experience, yet he stirred thousands of people into taking action simply by his unwavering resolve not to submit to oppression. Your hate for Kamina seems baseless to me. Nowhere is the show trying to say "don't believe, until you're graced by someone better than you, and THEN you can believe and unleash your true potential!!". I can understand doing XYZ and then realizing it’s not possible for you, but Simon was refusing the belief Kamina put in him and was actively trying to fool himself into thinking that XYZ is impossible just because he was too scared. If you ask me, that is a very self-afflicting worldview to harbour.
Kamina did not contribute anything tangible. Simon always had the potential to change the universe. All the NPCs through their combined effort could’ve always achieved the amazing things they did. But what they did lack was the unwavering belief Kamina put in them. I don’t see what’s so unbelievable about the changes they undergo because of Kamina. That’s how it has been in real life too. Most revolutions and uprisings have had some central figures, who inspired others to take action. You could argue that they have always been more competent than Kamina, but that’s not the point. The most important thing they could offer was their belief in change and their faith in their comrades, just like Kamina did. Again, all your combined effort might still fail, but that’s no reason to not take action. Who knows, maybe they’ll tell stories about you to the next generations, instilling faith in them to again take action.
” I would've liked for this excess of hopium to be challenged WAY more not only by the big bads, but also by the ones on Simon's side”
I don’t see why more people are needed to reiterate what Simon has already been saying. Simon’s worldview, as I mentioned above, is very harmful, and Kamina spent a lot of time trying to make him realize that. I don’t think anyone would have been capable of giving a better justification for their pessimism or making Kamina doubt himself (we both know how Kamina is). Kamina would just say the same things and the show would be needlessly overlong.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with either having a lot of hope or just a little. I also don’t think the show is trying to say that having a little hope is wrong. Take the people of Littner village, for example. They could’ve always crawled back underground and away from all the fighting, but they chose not to. Even if they did not have any grand dreams, they believed they had a right to be on the surface and fought for the cause. Eventually that allowed Simon and Kamina to fight the Gunmen and achieve what they did. Simon however did not have any hope at all and was always looking for a way to crawl back into his village in the face of adversity. The show needed to prove Simon wrong, and in my opinion it did so successfully.
”...representing brainrotting schemes as always working better than carefully planned strategies is astoundingly obnoxious.”
You mention how a lot of stuff that happens in the show is conveniently explained through the Power Of The Spiral, and while I can see why it might be unconvincing to some, I don’t see why you take offence to it. Even if the show is exaggerated, it would be no exaggeration to say that humanity has continued to challenge and upset the zeitgeist, always striving for better days.
I think one of the most interesting things that the show has to say is that even if a certain course of action seems to be the most logical and “carefully planned”, if what it achieves goes against your principles, you should refuse to accept it. What Rossiu was trying to do was definitely not evil, in fact, he believed that that was the best course of action for humanity. But ultimately what it did was that it let the Anti-Spiral continue to have their way with humans. Just like Lordgenome, Rossiu gave up the fight against the Anti-Spiral without even trying. That was unacceptable to Simon and others, who’d rather try and fail (even if it meant death) than accept their oppressors.
Lastly, I agree with pretty much everything you have said about Evangelion, but like I said before, there’s nothing wrong with having a lot of hope either, because you do need a lot of hope for a big change. Evangelion deals on a smaller, more personal level while Gurren Lagann deals on a much bigger scale. As far as I’m concerned, that’s pretty much the only difference between Eva and TTGL on a thematic level, and both are equally valuable. It’s important to deal with your own faults, just as it’s important to not let anyone oppress you.
About the only one I've been able to get into other than CSM and Idaten Deities. Maybe there were some others. Soul Eater is at least creative with its setting, and HxH I'm not very far into but seems fine. Although I'm strongly impressed by many clips on Sakugabooru for shows like Ninku, I'm pretty sure most of those shows are unwatchable other than cool fights. :S
'tis the same solution to any nightmare:
once unmasked, it matters not what you
look like, for now i comprehend what you
are and as such, you become a passing
moment, in a collection of passing times,
all to be eventually forgotten in the chaos.
So come take a bite, if you dare,
Hic sunt leones.
Sleep paralysis demon!
Is it true that you taste
like candy? Because I'm
warning you, if you don't
scare me next time, I might
just take a bite..!
please can you be a bit more
scary next time? you were so
obvious this time i unmasked
you instantly..
”...whatever efforts and progress humanity makes in the Kamina City or in the surface are so incredibly anticlimactic and spontaneous that it strikes as asinine and eye-rolling”
Now this is purely subjective, but I can view their “spontaneous” growth as being exaggerated while also recognizing the message it tries to convey: that humanity can and has achieved incredible things in incredibly little time. I can enjoy the sheer absurdity of the final battle because the ultimate message is that despite all our shortcomings, humanity has the potential to do the most incredible stuff.
” This notion of belief as the only and pure fuel for achievement is ridiculous.”
Once again, at the cost of repeating myself, belief isn’t enough, other things do matter, but if you don’t believe, you can have infinite potential and still not achieve anything.
”...one that grows into one of the most OP things in all of anime because of hack Spiral Power.”
Spiral Power is a metaphor for potential. The message is that even losers like Simon may have infinite potential within them. You may view the fact that a person of infinite potential was the one who stumbled upon powerful technology as being plot convenience, but it’s important to understand that Simon originally was no one special; he is representative of all those who don’t believe in themselves. The writer wants to convey that if we believe in ourselves, we might discover the infinite potential within us. Again, we might not have infinite potential within us, but if we don’t believe, we will never come to discover the truth.
” In my honest opinion, just Yui Ikari's monologue of “Anywhere can be paradise" is thousands of times more powerful than anything Gurren Lagann offers.
As someone who also considers himself an Evangelion fan, I would say the two shows have similar messages. By not taking part in the Instrumentality, Shinji showed his resolve to overcome his shortcomings of his own accord. Anywhere can be paradise, if Shinji grows to love himself. Gurren Lagann says that even if the whole multiverse is trying to undermine you, you don’t have to quietly accept your fate, you can believe in yourself (and others) and try to achieve what you desire.
I think it's probably serious in that case but heavily exaggerated to make it seem like "stronger criticism." I guess that person is the Okeanix (Re:Zero superfanboy) of Frieren.
lmao at bio pic. That is such a delusional amount of faith put into Frieren. I'd think it were a joke but the fandom is quite intense, so I don't know anymore... XD
Gurren Lagann doesn’t say “If you believe in yourself and work together, you can achieve anything”. It says that “If you don’t believe in yourself, you can’t achieve anything”. It’s not just “believe in yourself”. It’s “believe in the you (or me) that believes in yourself”. In other words, Gurren Lagann argues that belief is even more fundamental to success than actual progress. Sure, the bonkers scale of Gurren Lagann might seem ridiculous, but humans have also achieved unimaginable things in incredibly little time. It’s not a matter of where society stands or how much actual progress has been made, it’s a matter of whether or not you’re willing to believe in yourself. Gurren Lagann doesn’t say you’re going to succeed; Gurren Lagann says that you have a shot at achieving the most remarkable stuff once you believe. Even a loser like Simon who would have been content with obeying his superior and quietly drilling his whole life has the potential (ie, Spiral Power) to change the course of humanity. You might see all this as being very idealistic and all, but I see it as an overpowering negation of all that undermines humanity. I mean, believing in Gurren Lagann’s worldview makes me feel the most empowered and optimistic I have ever been.
Oh, I see. Too lazy to use Twitter and don't have an account anymore. XD
What's your pfp?
lol, no, I probably copy and pasted the exact same tags from a separate entry and didn't highlight everything when pasting. Thanks for the spot.
There were a couple characters that didn't like maomao. And there were characters that were more beautiful than her. But the show tried to make her a hero when she didn't need to be one!!
It's reviews like yours that help viewers wake up and help writers work on these issues.