10/10: Typically in my eyes a masterpiece, these are my top series of all time, these hit me on an emotional level that I will never forget, and I end up re-visiting them often. Any fault is completely blown away by the strengths of this series. My highest recommendations.
9/10: Series that I very much love and have very much affected me emotionally, not enough for a 10 but still massively strong stories with very few things I found wrong. I re-visit parts of them every so often, I very much recommend them.
8/10: Really liked them, series that definitely have some sort of emotional resonation with me but not as much compared to a 9 or a 10, but were still a strong series and I'd say a good experience. I like to re-vist bits and pieces here and there.
7/10: Enjoyable and overall pretty good, the strengths are excellent but the weaknesses are there. The strengths easily outweighed the weaknesses, but the weaknesses did keep it from being more for me and had enough of a strong presence to affect the experience but not enough to ruin the good aspects of it. Strong series but probably won’t re-vist much.
6/10: Above average, and probably had some things I liked but it never went anywhere beyond that. Probably not very memorable to me. Worth the experience but not something I'd revisit.
5/10: Average, may have been some stuff I liked but there was an equal amount of stuff I didn't like. May have also just been not very interesting/boring. Not the worst experiences but not something I'd think about after completing.
4/10: Bad but not horrible. Some redeeming aspects but what there is can't completely save this for me. Overall it was just bleh.
3/10: Actively boring and not very enjoyable. One or two things that kept me from completely hating it.
2/10: Lowest rating I will ever give most likely (doubt anythings that bad for a 1) but next to nothing about this worked for me, and I get angry just thinking about them.
1/10: Probably won't give anything a 1, but in case I do, it means that it's something that as a fan of fiction/storytelling can never bring myself to look at without wanting to die.
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Oh interesting that your opinions have changed so greatly since you last read it. So far I'm finding myself really enjoying it, and I think a massive part of that so far is Hibiki, who tickles my itch for one of my favourite styles of comedy: "Unbridled Comic Rage". There's something about comedy that trivializes anger that really sticks with and appeals to me. So with that being said, I think Hibiki is easily the best part so far and I look forward to seeing more from him. So far I definately think the bases for Ranma & Akane's relationship is far less interesting than both Ataru/Lum & Godai/Kyoko, but its perfectly servicable. Looking forward to meeting the rest of the cast.
Yeah, I know how that burn out feels, I went through a period like that in the first half of 2018 myself, was a great time to watch a lot of movies id been meaning to watch for basically my whole life, and I ended up with a comfortable top 10 in that medium, so it was all for the best. A similar thing happened about 18 months ago when I started actually listening to more music and actually established with myself a clear taste and sent me on a path to find favourites in that medium. So I think slowing down can help.
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The finale of Maison Ikkoku was absolutely wonderful and I must say those last couple volumes were quite addictive, I sat down to read as much as I normally would and ended up reading triple the amount and finishing it. The finale had me in a pretty good mood and it was nice to see that everyone ended up in a good place.
So yeah I am reading Ranma now, and so far I actually really like it, I think its got some strong character dynamics so far and I think Takahashi's compositions are getting quite nice at this point. My one concern with Ranma after the first volume is that I'm not sure if the central gag and relationship are quite so transformative and dynamic as those in Urusei Yatsura, so I do fear it may get much more samey throughout its run, but we'll see. I'm enjoying it a lot more than i thought I would frankly.
As for what I've been doing in quarantine, not a whole lot has changed. I still get to go to work, so work & home are the only two places I get to be, but because I travel around a bit on the job it doesn't feel like I'm grounded quite as much as other people. The biggest blow I've taken in this whole thing is being unable to hang out with friends, so comparatively I'm not in such a bad spot as the vast majority of other people. As for how I've spent the increased amount of free time, aside from trying to tackle a lot of longers and older anime & manga, Me & one of my friends (an experienced low budget amateur filmmaker) have started work on our second major film script, which so far has been going well (and I've even decided to write a novella version of the movie that is drastically different in tone and approach). So I guess you could say its been productive, which is good. What about yourself?
On the Maison Ikkoku side of things. Yeah its been brilliant, I think I like it just a little bit more than Urusei Yatsura on the whole (probably just cause its more consistent, though that being said it is shorter). I really like how natural and uncontrived the progression of Kyoko & Yusaku's relationship it, and despite the "will they won't they" kinda structure it feels less like indecisiveness for the sake of elongating the story, it's more like they both recognize the need for time to pass and growth to occur before they can really commit to each other. It's also funny cause I think I may have stated this before but normally I'm not a big fan of love triangles, but I feel really satisfied with the way romantic rivals are handled in this series. I think the series sort of acknowledges that it will clearly end with the main romance blooming, so It doesn't waste too much of your time making you think the rivals will win out, which is why the tension of Mitaka possibly winning comes and goes quite quickly and almost always is defused comically. In the case of Mitaka vs. Yusaku, in particular, it definitely feels like the more the series has gone on and the further Yusaku improves himself and his circumstances, the less and less Mitaka feels like he offers a serious threat because he more and more ends up the fool of any given scenario. It does a really good job of balancing real pathos & comedic subversion too.
Honestly if Kishimoto took Samurai 8 to Sunday, and it sold more or less the same number of volumes, the series would easily be allowed to run 40 volumes; like bare-minimum. And like Jump’s method certainly works, hence why they keep producing hits, but it’s still nice to see someone like Takahashi not be pushed to the side.
Yeah, It's actually pretty clearcut why I didn't mash with it at all. I think the first and perhaps least bothersome aspect is something we discussed before and that was the fact that while I like the themes and what its trying to go for, It just does it in completely unremarkable and unmemorable/standardized ways that it's hard to care about its attempts at pathos. I think the biggest culprit of my negative opinion (despite the fact that it was on the upswing by the end) was the artwork, composition & paneling. I found the fights, in particular, to be mostly incomprehensible and hard to read, and I think that if I have to squint to understand what's happening in a fight scene in a battle manga then that's a pretty significant problem, and because of the fact that most of the battle arcs were very much the Bleach style of introducing conflict, then watch a series of fights play out in order (something Bleach does great because the art and composition are so strong) the problem was only exacerbated when I had to endure that problem for fight after fight. I think the other major art issue I had was how Amano used black & gray shading, and how lot of the time it felt like there it was far too densely applied like there was just black blobs on the pages. It's story and characters sorta aired on the more serviceable side, but there were a couple of really baffling characters or really poor ones (Hibari and basically the entire female cast being the major culprits). Actually late edition (something I only just realized): I feel like another reason I didn't connect to it was I felt like there was a major clash of aesthetics, where its mostly pretty grounded, with all the mafia stuff (black suits and guns and all that) but then you have all these really detailed weapons technologies, the rings felt like they were drawn too detailed and looked like they had too much weight, the box animals felt like they were from another series, yeah stuff like that.
As for the final two arcs. Overall I thought inheritance was the best arc and Enma was easily the best villain, and I was really rooting for the idea that it was a good arc, and then everyone started fighting, and while the Enma Vs Tsuna fight did feel significant, it felt so weird and left a bad taste in my mouth to then lean the arc in a different direction with Chrome, Mukuro & Demon Spade. So it's still my favorite cause Enma was pretty good, and its where the art did start getting better.
The final arc was about as good as an inheritance but with every positive, I felt like there was an *. I think the ending is the perfect example of this. Like, I actually kinda like the idea that the ending presents a very real perspective on self-improvement, saying that people don't completely change very easily but it helps to have good friends and family to motivate you. But the big * is that it doesn't feel satisfying or significant for it to end that way. It just kinda felt the ending didn't wanna commit to anything, "Oh Tsuna didn't change, but he kinda did" "Oh we aren't gonna conclude the romance even though we just implied we were about to", stuff like that. As for the arc itself, I liked Tsuna & Reborns emotional conflict in the latter half, but the whole team all-out fight felt kinda insignificant when it just shifted focus pretty quickly to the Vindice and the truth of the Arcobaleno (which I thought was the better part of it). The art and compositon was also a lot better in this arc, but nothing too stand out in my opinon
But I think the thing I'm most conflicted on, is Tsuna himself because I don't think he's bad for the same reasons a lot people seem to think he is. The ending aside, I feel like his problem is nestled in its initiation, the fact that Tsuna sucks so much worked a lot better when it was purely a comedy manga, cause that feels suitable, but in transitioning that idea into a more serious mode kinda calls the scale of it into question. I feel like the thing I was waiting for was to get a retroactively applied justification for why Tsuna is like this because I feel like "he inherently sucks" just doesn't cut it when I feel like I'm supposed to take him seriously.
In awesome news on the other hand: Really been enjoying Maison Ikkoku, especially in these last several volumes
The bulk of the stories come from the 50s and 60s. The paneling and storytelling is at its least refined in the 50s and can often be a chore to read, a by-product of how manga was viewed and made. The 60s generally had some of the best stories, with Tezuka’s paneling and storytelling ability taking a noticeable increase in this decade. There are some from the 70s, that veer a little too far into a sort cynicism that doesn’t quite mesh with the stuff that came before. And the 80s is almost forgettable stories that feature the best Atom looked.
As a whole the manga is not lacking in terms of creativity. In terms of sheer imagination, this series is pretty hard to beat. Some of the plots and scenarios Tezuka created over the almost three decades really show a range of his talents and ingenuity. Even the most banal stories tend to have at least something creative about them, maybe even just a cool robot design. They’re not really stories with much cohesion, as everything resets to the status quo (usually) as with most episodic manga.
A big problem I had with this series is that In spite of creative it is, a lot of the stories blend together. I read everything except for two volumes (which I couldn’t find), and yet I only truly remember a select handful of stories, or at least an element or two. In spite of a lot of high concept stuff going on, the actual plotting can be pretty repetitive.
The characters are a real mixed-bag too. Almost every recurring character is uninteresting. Astro is likable enough. Depending on the decade, he might be a little more feisty: but as a whole he’s a generally nice robot. I like him well enough, I certainly wouldn’t consider him a personal favorite character: but he was nice, none the less. My favorite character was Professor. Ochanomizu, who can be pretty funny at times. Others like Uran, Tenma, Mustachio and Inspector Tawashi are a few of the other stand outs, in a sea of mostly forgettable side-characters.
The villains are also mostly forgettable. Only two really leave much of a lasting impact on the reader, Pluto and Blue Knight, though they’re each only in one story. There’s also Satan, a robot with laser nipple who also makes an impact, though simply for that aspect. Really, the only recurring antagonist Astro faces is Skunk, his arch-nemesis who appears every now and then. He isn’t a particularly engaging villain or anything, he’s only really notable for recurring.
With all of that being said, there are good points. There a few stories in the series where Tezuka makes use of what he created to actually tell an engaging tale. The ones that managed to standout in a sea of sameness, and are the ones that are typically present in whatever adaption of Astro is made. I would also recommend reading these, to get a grasp of this series, at least partially. In no particular order:
1. The Birth of Astro
2. The Greatest Robot on Earth (probably the most well-known story, If you’re going to read any Astro, this should be it. It’s a part of the omnibus you own)
3. Once Upon a Time (the only really multi-volume story in the manga)
4. Blue Knight (and the chapter or two that follow)
5. Either Ambassador Atom, Atlas,the End of Astro Boy or the Silver Tower
As a whole, and as I’ve said: this is a very uneven manga. I’ve never read any other series that both varies so much and yet still manages to feel so samey. It feels at times so original and so trail blazingly creative, which it was, while feeling stilted. Obviously it’s creation one of the most important things to have ever happened to the medium. It’s influence is massive, and themes that are heavily embedded into it’s backdrop can still rival much of what would follow. there are times when it manages to be very good, when Tezuka fires on all cylinders and creates something that would be considered an absolute classic. Other times, he doesn’t. It’s an absolute mixed bag, unlike anything I’ve read before.
Would I recommend reading through all of it? Unless you’re devoted, curious or both, then I would probably say: no. I don’t regret reading through all of it, but I don’t find find doing so necessary. I also don’t think it’s that type of series, it certainly isn’t written like that. Would I recommend you try out at least a few of the stories: without a doubt. This manga and the anime it spawned are amongst some of the most impactful works to ever grace this medium. You should at least have some familiarity with the series, especially since you’re such a fan of shonen manga.
Astro Boy is gold mine for a lot of things. And it’s raw imagination is almost unmatched. But I don’t know if that would be enough for someone to commit to reading the whole thing.