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Thanks, your interpretations really help me get more insight (and some more theories of my own)!

Here are some new questions and my general thoughts:

Raffia:
Why exactly is raffia required for the texhnolyzation process? Doc mentions, that raffia prevents the body rejecting the texhnolyze limbs, but how does that work? Does the raffia connect to human bodies because its "human" itself? Is raffia unable to reject the texhnolyze itself, because it functions more like a plant rather than an animal/human?
I really like your theory regarding Doc. Are you indicating, that the organic matter from Doc's miscarriage may have replaced the raffia for Ichise's texhnolyzation?
Did Doc really say, that the raffia was produced from his mother's remains? I remember her saying, that she used it as the texhnolyze unit's bio-circuit, but is that the same? She also says that his texhnolyze unit has become a living being. Is she claiming, that texhnolyze units are living beings in general, because they contain living biological (presumably mindless) matter? Or is she indicating, that his mother (or rather her miscarriage) is being reincarnated in that texhnolyze unit (with the raffia containing her soul)?
Ichize's texhnolyze sometimes doesn't obey his will (he sometimes failed to hit someone with his texhnolyzed arm, notably Doc). I always thought it was because it had a mind of its own. I previously thought, that his texhnolyze are special in that way (a new experiment by Doc), but now I question if raffia is the reincarnation of dead humans and correspondingly texhnolyze become reincarnations of dead humans.

The Obelisk:
I'm skeptical about the obelisk containing the merged souls from all the people who turned into raffia. This somewhat contradicts Ichise's texhnolyze having a mind of its own, since I would presume that the souls would keep merging into the obelisk.
Your interpretation of Ran makes a lot of sense. The people of Gabe may be infusing raffia into the seer, to connect her to the obelisk.This would explain why Ran seems to act different at times (with her mask on), as she would kind of house two personalities (if raffia contains the souls of dead people). Maybe the flowers are created by the raffia inside Ran, or they are used to infuse raffia into her?
Maybe the obelisk doesn't just form a connection between all the texhnolyze units, but rather between all the souls of dead people (inside the raffia)?

The Surface:
I was wondering a lot, if the "blurry" surface people (all of them except Yoshii, Sakimura and Saginuma) are really there and have just given up on "active" living, or if they're some sort of hologram portraying humans "living" in digital form, or if they're projected into the visitors minds by some kind of telepathic communication, or if they are literally some kind of ghosts. Against the second and third theory speaks, that we see the blurry people interact with matter (one of them makes coffee). However, against the first one speaks, that we see the little girl teleport and that Ichise has a conversation with his long dead father. I am also kind of reluctant to believe in the fourth theory.
I thought, that the blurry people would in some form or another still contain the souls of the humans they're representing. But maybe they're just some sort of android, that replaced the humans that ascended to that higher form of consciousness you're talking about? Maybe they took on a form of pure (electromagnetic) energy and what we hear in the radio are actually the voices of the surface people who are slowly going insane? This would also mean that Doc didn't really kill herself, but instead also ascended to that higher consciousness.
On the other hand, Saginuma said that the surface people are dying out, because they failed to evolve into the next species...

Kano:
If I remember correctly, he wanted to evolve humanity into the next species. Did he just want to turn everyone into texhnolyzed cyborgs and that failed because of unpredicted encephalopathy (brain disease)? Or did he try to create a new species out of raffia and humans? Are the dragonflies a symbol for the shapes acting as a cocoon for that new species?

Evolution:
It is mentioned repeatedly throughout the series, that the human species has to evolve to survive. But why do they need to evolve that badly right now? How did the environment change to necessitate evolution for humans to survive? Or did society change in a way to necessitate evolution? I'm sure you've heard of the parallels between Texhnolyze and behavioral sink, with the people of Lux representing the violent mice and the surface people representing the "beautiful" mice. Regarding this, it would make more sense to me that an evolution of the society is necessary, rather than an evolution of the human species.

The Obelisk:

It was heavily indicated, that the Obelisk forms some sort of network with all the Texhnolyze units in Lux and that it could analyze the data it received from them to make predictions of the future (it also acts as a power supply). It could share those predictions with the Texhnolyze users, but did it only in very specific cases (Onishi's voice of the city). Ran apparently also got her visions from the Obelisk, but I'm not sure how, because she was not texhnolized.

Another interpretation is, that the Obelisk forms some sort of telepathic network with all citizens of Lux (this would explain Ran's visions better). It was indicated, that in the last few episodes the people of Lux might have gone crazy, because the Obelisk was deactivated (the maintenance staff was murdered). The people of Lux would have been crazy from the beginning (maybe, because it's in their genes?) and the Obelisk would calm them down with its telepathic field.
As I understand it, the surface people build the Obelisk. So maybe they hoped to turn the "crazy" people "normal" in order to later reintegrate them into their society?

Ran and the Obelisk seem to have some sort of deep connection. Does the Obelisk have its own consciousness and places its mind inside a girl every generation (the Seer/Ran)? Or is it some sort of mechanism that tries to save the people by warning them of their future and the people of Gabe got it all wrong?

The interconnectiveness of the Obelisk and the Texhnolyze also suggests that Texhnolyze are way older than you would previously think. Did the old surface society also use Texhnolyze and if not, why did they give Texhnolyze to the people in Lux?

Oh, and why did the Obelisk bleed when Onishi struck it with his Katana?

The Class:

They seem to play a special intermediary role in the relationship between the people of Lux and the surface people, but what exactly is their purpose, and are they descendants of the "sane" surface people or the "crazy" people of Lux? Are they an institution put into place by the surface people or did they evolve out of the people sent below earth in Lux?
We know they (used to?) supply the surface people with raffia, but is that their only purpose and what did they get in return? Did the surface people use Texhnolyze on a large scale, before their society deteriorated?
Was the Class in control of the Obelisk (we know Kano could use the Obelisk to his advantage)? Did they use the Obelisk to observe how the society in Lux evolves or did they even use it to experiment on the people in Lux?

Raffia:

We know that Raffia is some sort of plant that helps the human body connect to the Texhnolyze, but what is it exactly? It is mined down below, where thousands of people are buried and it is indicated, that it might form out of peoples dead souls or something like that...
Did peoples souls get caught down below (maybe by the obelisk?) and are now used to "bring the Texhnolyze to life"?
However that seems somewhat contradicting to me, since I always thought that Doc used part of her "soul" to bring Ichise's Texhnolyze to life, so then she wouldn't have needed Raffia?

Flowers:

What exactly is the meaning of the flowers and why did the flower wilt when Ichise touched it in the surface world?
Are they connected to Raffia somehow?


There are still many questions about other parts (Kano, the theme of evolution, Ran in general, the (maybe) ghosts of the surface world...), but I'll leave it at that for now (have some other things left to do today).
I'm also sorry if my English is a bit messy, I'm not a native speaker.

Thanks beforehand, I hope you'll have fun discussing the show with me and can give me some more insight :)

Ok, here we go then:

The way I understood it, long ago the people of the surface world wanted to get rid of all the people who couldn't control their destructive and chaotic instincts, so they created an underground city (Lux) and deported them to this place. The surface people wished to make their world more peaceful this way and succeeded in that regard. However, once their now "ideal" society solved all of their other problems through technology, they had also eliminated any purpose their lives had. At this point, their society started deteriorating. The surface people began to be less active in general, with some of them just sitting around and waiting for their deaths and others desperately holding on to the routine their used to.
Needless to say, they also started to produce less offspring. By the time Ichise arrives at the surface world, most of them are dead.

In the meantime, the people in Lux struggle to survive in a hostile environment. The struggle continues for generations, until one strong organization emerges, that is able to bring relative stability to Lux (the Organo). While they still have a long way to go, conditions start to gradually get better, especially with Onishi as the new head of the Organo, who strives to better the lives of the people of Lux.
But here we start to see similarities to the surface world. Many people just linger on the streets and there are almost no children to be seen.
When Yoshii comes down to Lux, he sees that their society is evolving in the same direction as his did and thus tries to bring chaos upon them, so they won't succumb to nihilism like his people did.

These are basically the parts that I were able to interpret somewhat well. But I'm still arguing with myself about most other parts of the show.
I'll talk about those in the next message, because this one's already quite long (do these messages have limited lengths?).

Hi, I recently watched Texhnolyze and really loved it. However I'm still having trouble interpreting many aspects of the show.
You seem to be one of the more devoted Texhnolyze fans. Would you mind having a detailed discussion about the show's world, characters and themes with me?

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