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"It’s mind-blowing (dare I say groundbreaking?) stuff if you really dive into it, but it really asks a lot of investment and work from the viewer to actually dive into it and understand all the symbolisms and meanings buried in all that “style”." Yes, that is exactly right. I'm of the personal belied that a story (at least in an anime or TV Show format) should be able to be understood simply by watching it carefully. Because we are not talking about foreshadowing details that are in the background that you could come to know eventually, we are talking about the fact that you quite literally don't understand Evangelion's plot or really important lore by simply 'watching the show'. Although, as you mentioned it, the Rebuilds indeed have kind of the same problem (and are very much chaotic as you pointed out) but it still is a lot more understandable as a story (imo).

"When it comes to the rebuild movies, perhaps my mindset going into it is what soured the experience for me. I felt a closure after End of Eva" I do feel that there is a closure aspect when you end watching the og Eva, but to be fair, the story and concepts introduced in the Rebuilds are so different from the og that I didn't have any problems regarding that. In that way it is basically the same experiece I had when watching Steins;Gate 0 after the og Steins;Gate. Yes, there is definitely a closure in S;G, but S;G 0 is so different in tone and tackles such different topics and themes that for me it felt like a completely knew story, or a very important part of the S;G universe.

To be fair I only watched once both the og Eva and the Rebuild movies so I'm sure that I don't remember things in them by heart. Also, I do have a weakness for big time skips, so when that was introduced in the 3rd movie the setting and possible ideas that could arise from that definitely seemed incredibly interesting to me (TTGL, One Piece, TLOU 1 to TLOU 2, Arcane, etc. I simlply think that the ideas that come with a huge timsekip (constant disvories, misteries, etc.) that arise from that specific trope really heats up things for me in any type of story.
And its not like I don't think the Rebuilds have any flaws. They got as many flaws as the og. I believe the biggest problem I had back when I watched the movies was that the pacing definitely felt off in movies 2-3. It kind of felt like the movies didn't know if they wanted to have fast or slow pace and a lot of the times it felt that the incorrect choice was being made in that aspect.

"I wonder if that’s moreso just recency bias, or the fact that it’s prettier." I'm sure some people like the Rebuilds more because of this reason but not me tbh. The og Evangelion already has one of the most gorgeous art styles of all time (if not the best altogether) and animation that a lot of animes nowadays would kill to have. For me the Rebuilds basically just look like a slightly improved and more modern Evangelion in that sense, but it doesn't make that much difference to me.
Overall my whole Evangelion experience (both og and the rebuilds) was pretty amazing. I watched the og 26 episodes and then along with a friend of mine we watched The End of Evangelion (which we had to pause for 40 minutes after the 1st scene to simply talk and disscuss what we had just seen) and the 4 Rebuild movies. I actually think that we gave the same rating to every Rebuild movie (which are 6, 8, 8, 10) as we ended up having pretty similar opinions on the matter (although he definitely liked the og Evangelion less than me). I basically view the entire Evangelion universe as an internal analysis of Hideaki Anno (by himself of course) and the change of his psyche and/or mentality throughout his life. That would probably be the first reason why I love both iterations of Eva so much. The first Eva is great because it is so raw, pure unaldutered emotions conveyed through a screen. That is both its greatest achievement and its worst downfall in my opinion (Eva is one of the most unique experiences I've ever had watching something so I always recommend because whether you like it or not you have to experience that). The og Eva is probably the single show with the most 'heart' that I've experienced, and at the same time it feels like sometimes you are not watching a story unfold, but rather you are simply watching Hideaki Anno vent towards an audience about his depression without a real 'structure' o progression really happening (I don't mean that the story has no structure at all or smth like that, but rather that sometimes it feels too chaotic for its own good and the lack of at the very least some semblance of a coherent story sometimes makes you feel really confused and lost). Another problem regarding this aspect is that the story simply has no way of being understood firsthand completely. And this is not a 'Inception' type deal (I love the movie, I just point out that people exagerate the complexity of the movie) where people overblow how difficult it is to actually understand the movie, but I finished Eva (and the end of Eva), then procedeed to watch YouTube videos explaining the entire lore and story and ended up realizing that I basically didn't understand anything of what was really happening (or a lot of important parts). This could be summarized imo like 'the show simply doesn't explain its story enough'. On the other hand the Rebuilds feel like a much more structured story. Naturally they still have a lot of the raw emotion that made the og very special, but it really felt like Anno developed both as a writer and as a person. You can clearly see in both stories his developments as a human being: the og Eva is a way of expressing himself through his depression and the Rebuilds are more of a way of expressing how he overcame a lot of his mental problems and in a way are even a homage to his wife. The main key thing that makes me love both stories is that the characters are great in both iterations (and for all purposes serve the same roles and feel like the same people, for me at the very least) but they go through different circumstances in the 2 stories and the plot takes a different way of telling things and of finishing the story.
Another thing worth talking about is the fact that I don't like the first 6-7 episodes of the og, which makes me not like the first movie that much as well, as the 1st movie is basically just a retelling of the first episodes of the og TV Show (although I absolutely adore episode 4 and the final scene of it —where Shinji was going to leave on the train but Misato stops him— is still one of my favorite scenes of the entire universe). I think that the main reason I slightly like more the Rebuilds overall is simply the setting. I think both stories are really good, but the changes they made in the story from movie 2 onwards are amazing imo, and the 3rd movie introduces a lot of really interesting concepts that I really like. I love the contrast between movie 2 and 3 because I basically see movie 2 as a movie of characters and movie 3 as a movie of concepts, both which are basically setup towards movie 4, which is my opinion is practically a perfect way to give payoff. Kaji is my favorite character both in the og and the Rebuiilds and I actually love so much that he shines so much in the 2nd one. His way of living through life and the few tiems that he talks with Shinji are some of my fav things in any story ever.
Apart from all that, Eva's aesthetic, soundtrack and overall artistic features are just second to none and give for a really amazing experience. I would like to hear your input about all this.

"I kinda respect more how the author doesn’t need to flesh everything out so much and keeps things more direct, essential info only I guess." I do respect that as well, but in this particular case I do think that expanding things would have definitely been more beneficial than not for the story.

"Maybe I just love the story so much I’ve got rose tinted goggles on! I’m also just relieved that there are no glaring issues with the ending lol, other than the fact that it could’ve been longer." You could say the same about me for Haikyuu XD. I mean, I also thought that this could be close to the "First Fromsoftware game played" effect (I will explain this as I don't know if you have played Fromsoftware games). Fromsoftware games are like Elden Ring, Bloodborne, Dark Souls and such. The thing is that among the community it is believed that most of the time the favorite game of people who start playing these games is the first one they try and then they proceed to also like the rest, but they always compare the rest to the first one. That actually happened to me, as my first FS game was Bloodborne and I prefer it much more than Elden Ring (which was the 2nd one). The thing is that the very same thing may be happening to me regarding Haikyuu and Slam Dunk. Perhaps because Haikyuu was the first sport anime that I experienced (and especially taking into account that Haikyuu is basically a homage to Slam Dunk in many ways) I end up liking more the Haikyuu way of approaching this type of anime (although I still think that all my arguments make complete sense and I stand by them).

"Anyway, I’d love to hear ur thoughts on that! Not too often to have a thoughtful discussion like this so I appreciate your take." We actually could disscuss other things as well, like the fact that I actually prefer the Evangelion rebuilds ahead of the og (although ever so slightly) as I see that it is definitely one of your favorites or other things.

"Also, that scene with Hanamichi and his dad gets me every time." That part is so good XD.

Hi, I'm the guy from the Haikyuu — Slam Dunk forum XD. First of all, I think it is a shame that you didn't like Haikyuu but that type of thing happens (like I hate Mob Psycho even though it is a fan favorite everywhere and I actually see you don't like it as well, which is a pretty big coincidence).
Regarding Slam Dunk, yes, I agree that characters are pretty endearing (as I actually love the characters, I just have some complaints about the way they were handled) and I understand that the story tries to be realistic and grounded. I'm not saying that the characters are poorly written, but rather that Inoue should have written more about them. "For example, Mitsui re-discovers his love for basketball, Ryota overcomes his insecurity and grows into more of a leader, Rukawa learns patience, to trust and believe in his teammates and share the load, and Akagi softens up, and becomes even moreso the pillar of the team." These were the examples you gave me, and they are good indeed, but I'll give you counter examples: Rukawa's plot point about going to the US was never further explored, Coach Anzai's backtory about Yazawa was never explored either apart from a couple of really vague panels and explanations, Mitsui's character trait about "losing" time as a basketball player was only touched upon when he re-entered the team and like 1 time in the middle of another match. My point is that there were plenty of really interesting and thought conveying things that Inoue willingly put in the story (especially character traits) and that... he never touched again. My favorite part of the entire manga (not counting the Sannoh match) is when Coach Anzai passes out and Sakuragi remembers what happened with his dad. I cried reading that, and naturally I thought that that was something that was going to be touched again as it felt like a really important part of Sakuragi's character and potential development. That was not mentioned once after that moment. That is my criticism of the manga. It actually felt eerily similar (but much, MUCH, less damaging and not nearly as poorly written) to the downfall of Jujutsu Kaisen post Shibuya, where Gege simply decided to not touch any bit of character development or worldbuilding that he created before (although I think you haven't read JJK post Shibuya, but I would presume that you have at least heard the community's opinion of the manga). That is something where Haikyuu deeply shines. I'm not going to extend too much on that as you don't really like Haikyuu and you haven't consumed the rest of the story, but as I said in my original post, every plot point and character arc has a really satisfying and deserving end which leaves you really fullfilled. That is probably the core difference in the experience I had with both stories (even though they are both great): Haikyuu leaves you fullfilled whereas Slam Dunk leaves you thinking it could have been much more. I would say that Haikyuu reached its full potential as a story and Slam didn't (imo of course).
"The first arc of the story doesn’t dip heavily into basketball because Sakuragi knows nothing about basketball." Regarding this point, I will give you that this is probably just my personal opinion talking. With this type of thing, I most of the time am of the opinion that the author should have made that sooner. The first 70 chapters should have been condensed in perhaps 30 or smth like that. Even if that part is important for Sakuragi's character it could have been tocuhed upon in half the time without it actually losing anything important in the process (or at least I believe so).
"Their payoff is the Sannoh game." I personally think that is only partially true. Yes, the Sannoh match ends up being the payoff for the entire story as a whole and that match does end with Sakuragi injurying himself and therefore them being slaughtered next game, but the same thing literally happens with Haikyuu. In the penultimate arc, when they are in Nationals they end up losing (so not exactly the same result) and being eliminated after Hinata falls ill in the middle of the match. We actually don't see the end of the match, it is only later mentioned that the team had lost. But that happens in chapter 370, the manga ends in chapter 407. We have a full 37 chapters to close everything: every plot point, every character arc, every possible development and every payoff. We even get a couple of flashforwards along the way (and a lot of things are still left in the dark, but we get enough to be satisfied). Even if you consider that everything was closed for Slam Dunk in the Sannoh match (smth I don't agree with) the ending is still too abrupt. This is maybe a opinion, but I do think that in a sport anime (at least with 2 stories written in the way they are like Haikyuu and Slam Dunk, because they are pretty similar in both structure and narrative lots of times) you can't really (or shouldn't) end just like that, after finishing a match. You need time to actually breath and take it all in, outside of the court. Like a 'fleshed out' epilogue sort of saying, to really settle everything.
But well, that would be my thoughts. Disagreeing about things is pretty fun tbh and I love discussing about these type of topics.

Thunder 3 is being published by Panini Comics in Spanish. The last time I checked, English scans were up to chapter 4, but unfortunately, there were no signs of it coming back as it's been 8 months since the last scanlated chapter.

Yeah so thats the only one in my favorites I haven't finished. >.<
I'm a little past after what they did in the OVA, which I just watched and its awesome honestly though I think I like the anime more. The English dub is hilarious, short and centered around comedy. I do like the character development that's in the manga but I'm just getting kind of bored with the story.
I love the art in the manga though its so awesome! I love it so much!

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i dont like anime because myazaki said anime is trash (im so based) i do things i dont like ofc

do you like anime

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It's alright, I commend you for merely taking my recommendation and going through with it. Not everybody values the same things in art and it is all evaluated through a subjective lens in one way or another, I respect your rating.

that’s honestly hard choice to make. both got pretty similar themes and morally and ethically thought provoking dilemmas but I think imo monster excels at what it’s set out to propose in such a mysterious and profound way, so does Pluto and does it amazingly, but the way monsters execution differs is what gives it the edge. I made the choice of watching monster instead of reading, but I’d recommend reading it as it fixes up some of the pacing issues present in the anime adaptation. Whether you decide to read or watch, in the end monster>Pluto imo