Rating Legend:
10/10 Masterpiece - Nearly flawless to flawless
9/10 Cusp of Masterpiece - Almost reaches greatness, but still missing something
8/10 Amazing - A must watch that doesn't usually do anything too special
7/10 Great - Worth the time to watch, and has great moments
6/10 Good - An enjoyable experience, didn't regret the time invested into watching
5/10 Decent - Average, potentially has good moments and some pretty bad moments, could do without
4/10 Bad - Regretted completing and was an overall negative experience
3/10 Awful - Just bad and potentially painful to get through
2/10 Poop - Criminally bad
1/10 Unwatchable - Made with the intent to be as terrible as possible
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I am originally a fan of cinema. But as you stated... cinema sank at the bottom of the ocean long ago. Best example is Hollywood. I gave up on them a decade ago. Animes have been on a downward trend too, but not as much.
Those with whom i have had this kind of problem you depict were almost all americans. Mere fact. All these insult PMs i got for criticising Bang Dream or whatever were clearly from americans, too. They are the only ones i know of that go and attack others any time they disagree with them on something... (not all of them, but many). It is like they feel offended or challenged by different perspectives and feel the need to level all dissent. Disagreeing with people is not a bad thing, though. Sometimes, this can allow one to discover a completely new perspective one never suspected existed. It is like travelling. I am french, as i said, and i don't share these methods. Unless someone gets on my nerves first, i tend to be civil. One of the thing i hate most though, are empty comments and judgments on things with nothing to back the claim. Just cringe one-liners. We are taught from a young age to always support claims with detailed argumentations, and so, this is what we expect to see. Makes me incompatible with those who love to throw empty assertions to the winds.
But the nail in the coffin of "Hibike S3" is Kumiko's relationship to music and her euphonium. Mayu only exists to destroy all this, and the moment Kumiko definitely lands on Earth and stops dreaming and chooses a very down to earth path... is the moment i started wondering why the heck i was watching all this in the first place. I studied arts, and honestly, i don't watch animes or films for the sake of seeing a boring everyday life reproduced on screen. If you are going to create such a story, make it inspiring, or don't write it at all. This is my take on it.
Side note: i only watched 2 animes in 2023. I actually forced myself to watch more lately, because otherwise, i may have given up this old hobby of mine without even realising it.
It is possible. By essence, i wouldn't know :). Although that would surprise me. Because i watched this 3 times. And because my gripes in season 3 are mostly regarding Reina and Kumiko, their characterisation, their development, and the way the characters are usd as plot devices for the sake of hollow drama. By "hollow", i mean drama that is created out of thin air. It doesn't previously exist in the characters, the situations, or the story. It is artificially spured into existence by taking details and making them snowball through overstraining the main character's very nature in an unnatural way. This wasn't the case in Season 2. In season 2, the drama is centered around Asuka, her euphonium, and her dad. In season 2, it is true that Kumiko goes over the top at some point... but that remains in the realm of what animes tend to usually provide. Season 3 really is a completely different beast. Now, i am curious to have you watch it and have your take on it. Who knows? You might see it very differently from me?
You know, i may be weird, but i always watched "Hibike" with a very sociological perspective: nothing in this story could happen here in France. More than anything, no french person could have written such a story. A japanese person did. By taking everything life, education and culture made her to be. These all made her into someone that couldn't be produced by our french context. This is fascinating. This set of circumstances is what defined the author as a japanese person compared to me being french. And i am fascinated to see what almost otherworldly (to me) creation that can spur into existence. So, i was perfectly fine with season 2. I am, as long as the writting makes sense. Would you think season 3 makes as little sense as season 2?
Indeed... season 3 betrays all that more than i can even explain (and it looks like fanboyz are getting irked that i dared criticize their waifu series so openly. Not that i care though). Characters' problematics do not articulate themselves organically with one another as was the case before. In Season 3, it is hamfisted, exaggerated melorama with shouts and tears over nothing. And characters stop making sense. Reina becomes way over the top for the sake of drama, and Kumiko loses everything that made her interesting at first. I was talking about character developement... so imagine developing Kumiko's character in a way that basically makes her as boring as everyone else, and we are told that she finally found her true purpose... Wut? I am not japanese, so i feel it is plain wrong. Worse, they even felt the need to introduce a whole new character (Mayu) for the SOLE purpose of introducing more drama. NOT because they even had ANYTHING worthwile to tell about her: it was merely to ramp up the melodrama (and KyoAni made it even worse by rewriting the end). Now, both films that come after season 2 are failures. Particularly the first one. Kumiko's second year is sabotaged more than i could tell. It is like adapting "The Lord of the Rings" in a 30 minutes OVA: not only the story would hardly make any sense, but you would lose the very essence of the books: its feel, nature, smell, everything that define its atmosphere (they did exactly that with "Gunm", too). It is the same here, somehow.
And now, add to that that in S3, pretty much all character interactions are shown not to depict everyday life and interpersonal relationships, as was the case in season 1, but for the sake of building up drama... as well as the fact that music (what i loved most in season 1 and 2) basically disappeared... and everything that follows season 2 turns out to be a MASSIVE let down to me. Worse, i am pretty sure that most people who manage to still watch some animes from time to time at my age would reach the same conclusion as me. I noticed that one tends to regard such things very differently at 10, 20, 30, or even 40. I went through all these steps, so i know :)
I was felt compelled to watch Pluto because it was a work by the same author of Monster, but my first watchthrough of the latter happened so long ago that hardly I could connect it as an influence on my opinion about the latter. Perhaps it shouldn't discourage you from watching Monster whenever you can, I recall it as a completely different type of story.