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ah don't worry, I am definitely watching more. I don't really dislike it, it just has yet leave an impression on me in any way. like, there isn't any aspect that I particularly dislike or love.

I am deficiently going to watch at least the first 2 season before considering to stop.




Frankly, I wouldn't mind it being and over the top action show, I had it in my ptw already for a reason (honestly, I wish something like demon slayer was just over the top edgy action, maybe then I would actually enjoy the show as much as most other people).... but what you describe does definitely sound more interesting.

I might give it a watch on the sooner rather than later side.

oh also, I forgot to mention this. I have started bungo stray dogs.

Season 1 has been... honestly a bit weaker than I expected. Like it's not bad... but everything about it seems fairly generic. I'm still waiting for something to truly hook me. I've heard it only gets better as it goes though. even s1 has been slowly but surely getting more interesting.

huh, that's weird. cause when I added this, I was thinking it would be the exact opposite of something like mars red. From what I had heard it's a over the top action fest turn your brain off fun, I didn't really know it was in anyway similar to mars red.

That actually makes me a bit more intrigued to check it out!

Recently I watched Hilda, and honestly, I think it's going to be some time before I get THAT invested in a show. It was really good, definitely would recommend it to be pretty much anyone. As far as cartoons go, I think it was on a similar level as gravity falls!!


Oh and happy new year to you as well!!!

Great favs list! We have many entries in common. Also, it's good we gave the same score for School-Live. I really enjoyed that one. (And we can basically count Psycho-Pass, Madoka and Steins;Gate too.)

The recommendation you did to a fellow member of this website was very good.

love your taste!

Good taste.

I didn't really feel that special about the mars red unifotms, but the uniform in this image is SICK.

it's like the same thing as the mars red uniform but way better.

that show is in my SUPER LONG plan to watch list. right now the things I really have on high priority to watch are:

the shows I have already started, chihayafuru s3, bungo stray dogs, and better call saul.

I also want to watch some of the seasonals from this and last season, but that one is on hold.

they did though, there was the cream.

I get what you're saying though. they do seem completely unharmed in natural shadows the few times we see them there. while they need some wacky stuff to survive under the sun otherwise, while there being a time limit on it.

I guess I just don't see as that big of a deal in this particular case since again the vampire power system was not what I liked about the show in the first place. but you're right, it is decently inconsistent. in that regard.



I don't remember the second scene you're talking about, but it doesn't really matter in this case cause, weren't the vampires in the redlight district completely mad? they acted pretty much like zombies, I don't think they could really listen to "anything".


unless the vampires in the second scene you're talking about were like that too, in which case it might be another problem with the power, which to be fair, was an element that I didn't really pay much attention too.




if you remember right, she did only have a few performances. but in one of the first ones, Aoi was there to write a report, and while she was a bit hesitant at first, she was extremely impressed by the end.

we don't exactly know how many performances she took after that, but the assumption is that her work got pretty well recognized before she died. and the way of her death probably added to her popularity.

it's not absurd to think she was pretty well known, at least in that area.




I mean Rufus did that by changing his voice, and we never saw how recorded it, we just saw the player. the show never showed him record on the same thing, so you're kinda just assuming the author thought it was recorded on the same thing.



I would argue that the bat suit was exactly that.

without it, they would never be able to save Aoi. even if he could run there without worrying about the sun.

again, yes the sun thing and powers are a bit weird. but you already complained about that. This and the sunlight problem, are essentially the exact same, you're just looking at them from a different angle. it's not really a new issue.



lol maybe!

the show doesn't really do any world building and is more of a personal story, so.... we don't exactly know what's up with the rest of the world.

alright, I'm writing this part after writing everything else.

you brought a lot of interesting points, and this is just my perspective. don't think I am even necessarily calling you "wrong".

you don't even need to read it unless you're curious to do so. Imma go to sleep now, so If you did answer, I will probably reply back at least some time later.

anyway, I'm out, Wish you a nice day :D




yeah, I would just ignore those people. there is a line with being critical that you can't cross without looking stupid. like giving CSM or sg a lower score is 1 thing, but a 1/10 is just there to piss people off.



but the main point of the bat suit was to fly, not to stop the sun. He had a cream for that.

the effectiveness of the bat suit in regard of stopping sun, would be the exact same as an umbrella.

but there is an issue with umbrella,

1. you can't fly with it, which is what the bat suit was mainly for.
2. you can't even run with it. it would blow away.

but even that aside, the vampire power system or logic was never really the selling point of the show for me. so even if it was super broken it wouldn't affect much imo.



it actually works pretty consistently with everyone. Yamada is by far the weakest important vampire character in the show. he is so weak in fact that he is not even ranked. he doesn't fail because the plot needs him, he fails cause he was never able to do it.

that is actually fully connected to the fact that they send him. the whole point was that a stronger vampire, would alert the others, but he wouldn't due to being unranked.

and for everyone else, it does basically function like a radio. is that fully logical? no.... it isn't. but It's a vampire ability, I don't think it's that important that it doesn't REALLY make too much sense when you think about it. nothing about vampires makes sense tbh, I just except how it works as a rule. as long as it stays consistent, which it does.



ok this one's on you.

Suwa, earlier in the series first opened up to that one prostitute girl. I'll try to keep this short, but I do have to go into some detail.

Suwa is the oldest vampire in the unit, he has lived for hundreds of years and is kind of tired of living. but he sees the joy in the young prostitute, it's obvious that there is something that he likes or admires about her. so much so that after seeing her dead body, he takes off his mask and asks if Takeuchi knows a song he can teach him.

it's obvious it impacted him, but it's not fully obvious why.

the relation between suwa and the traitor girl is a bit more complicated. It doesn't start as something romantic. it barely ends at that. Suwa looks at her as an ignorant child, who doesn't know any better, he is kind of looking out for her. and the final scene between them, is a result of just that. if you look at their interactions with context, it's pretty obvious that suwa was looking out for her from the start.

it's almost like he sees the most naive part of himself in her. the part of him that we saw shine when he was talking to the prostitute.

it also has thematic connection to the Aoi and defrott scene, where she tells him only a child would say the want to die.

I don't wanna give you a headache, but that's the gist of it.



I wouldn't say kurisu didn't get a happy ending. the phrasing was that he still needed to do something before being able to come back. But I think it was meant to be a hopeful note. where there is things to do, but he will strive to stay alive and come back for her.

but I see what you're saying. it's just hard thing to know since it's mostly open ended. I just give the show the benefit of the doubt and believe it when it says "there is more work to do".

But I also know I do that because I already like everything else, so I can't really say I'm not biased to say this.



I mean... yeah the character designs aren't really anything I would call special.

but.... ok, the thing is, maybe It's a me thing. but I don't think maeda and kurisu look similar at all. and Aoi and misaki looking alike was an important part of the plot. it was on purpose. It was foreshadowed back in episode 1, and in the finale was the thing that brought maeda back to himself.



I don't understand what you're saying here.

so misaki should not die because she's a newer actor? what?

the show never says her death was not accidental, but it is implied that It may have been set up because she overheard Rufus and Nakajima.

And defrott didn't really talk about misaki that much in the begining. he just had a conversation with Maeda about her, when Maeda was investigating the scene.

but besides that, while it was short, it's clearly the most important person he had met in a long time in the way it affected him. as far as we know, she was the only person Defrott got somewhat close to at the time. this also explains why he warmed up to Aoi fairly fast. since Aoi and Misaki do look very similar.



He planned the Escape at the end, he made the bat suit, which again was mainly for flying, which isn't something that an umbrella can do. he made the cream that protects them from the sun for a short while. he made the blood candy. he broke up suwa and kurusu when they were fighting and brought them up to speed.

he was definitely the least developed character in the main team, but he wasn't "useless". he just didn't get a real character arc unlike everyone else.



god complex, control freak, power hungry...

he's a pretty generic villain. to me what makes him work is his downfall and how fast his empire falls apart. the fact that his rise to top and fall to the bottom is in a single episode called king of fools, and his death is by literally falling also goes a long way on selling that.



it was an illusion, not mind control, and the show never really says how it works. the assumption is that Defrott, being the only S class vampire has tricks that we hadn't seen before.

in the scene were defrott and Aoi were trapped, Rufus was nowhere near them, he was talking to them through a microphone. We don't know what is the range on that ability, nor how it works.... which to be honest, I do think is kind of a problem. it does kind of come out of nowhere even though it doesn't really break the rules.

I would love to know. listen, If you are not a fan of discussions like this, I won't continue it, but please do tell me your side. I love hearing different perspectives on things that I love or hate.

I don't think the show is perfect either. The animation is very lacking and the show's visuals is fully carried by style and directing, and while I think he works well enough, I'm also not a huge fan of the villain. He's motives are too basic. it feels like his side of things would benefit greatly by the show being a bit longer.



Now i'm wondering if the suit was inspired by batman, or both the suit and batman were inspired by bats..... eh potato potato same thing lol



I see what you're saying, but while I have definitely heard this song many times, I haven't heard it enough times to just know all of it my memory, so I wasn't really bothered by them not including the best part.

I mean the song does match the scene, but I also see why it would be annoying if you're waiting for it.



that part was left open ended. he either shot himself or he didn't.

I personally don't think that he would. he's the type of guy who would spend the rest of his life trying his best to atone for his mistakes. I have read half the manga, maybe I can give a 100% answer when I finish it.

I also really wanted to see the original play, but couldn't find it anywhere online. I should look some more.

the manga, is basically the dumbed down version of the anime, well that's a lie there are a lot of other differences, but it doesn't have the "thing" that made me like the anime so much. the play like writing and story structure is just not there.




lol, I'm not sure if you even can sell the average person on mars red. but I am betting it all that every theatre kid will love the shit out of it. the trailer for this show kinda sucks ass, I might make a trailer for it myself just for the sake of selling the show properly when I suggest it to people.

you gave it an 8.

and believe it or not for me it was an 8 too for a very long time. a low 8 at that.

It wasn't until I rewatched a few months ago that I increased it's score from a low 8 to high 9. It's just such a well put together show.

the biggest sign that a show is well made and has a lot of care put into it, is when the more you look, the more good things you have to say about it. most anime just show their flaws when you look deeper into them, even some great shows are like that.

there are very few shows that get better and better the more you look into them.

No worries :D



In that case, I'll just say, listen to these 4 tracks from the later parts:

https://youtu.be/MdPhaY78yc4
https://youtu.be/40LHIJrcXaY
https://youtu.be/n-x4ttQioNw
https://youtu.be/ojIKoKNBwN4

Trust me, you won't regret this.




that's fair, I still wouldn't consider it a greatly written mystery or anything, but with that context it would be "better" hard to say how better, but it would be at least a little better.




on a different note, how far are you in mars red?

fair enough, but 2 fast things:

1. I still suggest you to at the very least listen to the abyss s2 and movie soundtrack.
2. when you finished it tell me how worth it the higurashi remake (or sequels?) are. one of my big problems with the original was the animation being kinda subpar, so I was excited to watch the new one. but after seeing how much hate it got, I didn't really bother with it.




I can talk about hell's paradise, but another was meh enough that I have mostly forgotten what it was even about.

here's what I remember about another:

the build up to the mystery really dragged on.

the umbrella death was the only one I actually found a little disturbing, the rest were goofy, but at least in an entertaining way. most of it was just stalling for the reveals.

the final culprit was a character that barely existed in the show and barely had any screen time, so I ended up just thinking.... oh her? ok.... I guess.

I can't really go into small details, since my gage is based on my limited memory, but that's what I remember thinking about the show.

you are probably right about it setting a better atmosphere and mystery than hells paradise, but it's not really a fair comparison. Another is a full on horror mystery. hell's paradise is a battle shounen set in a unique world. horror is not exactly it's primary point. I wouldn't even call it atmospheric.

not that having these wouldn't make hell's paradise better, but they aren't the main point of the show, so I'm not going go hard on it for being lacking in those areas. what I enjoyed about hell's paradise is these:

the background art is breath takingly good

the show is good at creating a convincing sense of danger by making the characters get hurt in meaningful ways and not being afraid to kill characters, which is very important for a show like it to work

the world and it's rules has some super interesting concepts that I haven't seen done like this before

every episode feels important, and very little time is wasted

the music slaps

now.... the writing is not the best. and the animation does have it's short comings from time to time, but for the most part, I think it achieves what it sets out to do. it's not that I think hells' paradise is a better horror mystery than another.

I just think another is an average horror mystery, while hell's paradise is a pretty good edgy battle shounen.



you might be right, but above all else, I just found the show boring despite it being a mystery. it just hanged 1 mystery around my head for 12 episodes, and gave 1 answer for it.

it felt like a story that could have been wrapped up in a 1 and half hour long movie, without having pacing issues. even if you are right, and the answer is more satisfying with fansubs, I just don't think it can help it much. the disappointing final reveal, was just the icing on the cake. even without it I wouldn't give another a score higher than a 6.

I'm actually jealous of you.

you have yet to see most of the things I consider to be the peak of mystery writing in anime. the most surprising being the fact that you somehow have not seen madoka magica rebellion, despite watching the original and giving it a 10/10. I'm actually super curious on why that is.

rebellion has the fanbase al little mixed for a particular reason, but even that aspect is just as loved as it is hated. and you can't really know which camp you're in without watching it.

oh also, I suggest you watch the promised neverland (ONLY SEASON 1), it's one of the few anime that does genuine horror well. not the gore fest thing.

more the tension building and mini jump scares thing.