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"You also have Miura failing to handle the topic of religious belief in the Conviction arc where every religious person is depicted as crusaders, nutjobs, and rapists who are intolerant of the slightest of opposing views or just straight up degenerate.
This is just straight up nonsensical to anyone who has read history or has interacted with people outside as people come from all walks of life, there have been countless positive contributions from these religious identities (Christianity, Hinduism, etc)."
The problem with this is twofold, firstly, you can critique something without having to frame its positives, this only turns into a problem when said framing leaves the subject distorted with or without the direct intention of swaying opinions away from matters of truth (basically the thing I am criticising you for right now, hey, isn't that fun). I can say right here and now that Osama bin Laden was a terrorist involved in the deaths of thousands, without having to say anything good about the man. Obviously there are positives to most things (though we will get to that in a second), but I fail to see why Miura would need to mention them, if he is trying to critique a singular part of religion. Religious fanaticism tends to lead people away from matters of truth, isolating them and leading to mass hysteria like witch hunts and inquisitions. We can critique this element of religion, without having to attempt a full on evaluation of religion as a whole, I simply do not understand why you believe the opposite to be the case.
Secondly, I know that we probably disagree on this, though that might also very well be part of my point, but religious identities do not have any clear positive contributions in the context of history. We view the past from a perspective of not knowing what else could have been, and thus we ascribe many of the deeds and innovations to singular institutions or people, even though these things would have happened with or without them. We simply do not know what role religion played in improving society, all we really know are the ways in which it did the opposite. Obviously we have to frame this argument both ways, if there had not been religion, maybe these problems would still have occurred all the same, just through other institutions, but when it comes to pure religious theory, there are problems that are so fundamental that they can not be excused through this. Religion sells us fantasy, it is a thing removed from matters of truth and logic and is firmly placed within the bounds of fiction and opinion. This can obviously be deeply hurtful in itself, something Miura actually capture quite well, showing the despair and agony that stems from a system that tries to shape the world into a fictitious construct, something it simply can not be. This is the same problem that fascist and nationalist regimes face; Nazi Germany decided to blame the Jew for all problems but even if they hunted down every last one of them, that would not have solved the problems that they claimed the Jews to cause. If we try to imprint fiction upon reality, we only fool ourselves, and all attempts to bind the two only further drags us away from reality. These are intrinsic problems to all religions, as they are separate from reality, they simply can never function as a world view, without generating conflict like the death of objective truth. You might disagree with what I am saying, though I don't think you could argue against most of the points I made, but that doesn't really change my point, because the mere fact that there is disagreement on this subject already shows that you are wrong, that there are no clearly definable "positive contributions from these religious identities".
I would love to hear if this was a genuine mistake on your part, or if you somehow believe all my criticism to be "false". Have a good one, I guess.
Btw I noticed just now that u got red in your favourite manga and I gotta say it's fantastic some of the characters give me Gunmm vibes especially itou's character design looks like Ido from Gunmm
I like how it balances the comedic elements and the serious topics so well
how do you even type this sentence like it's not an advertisement for the series so glowing and radiant it could invoke new age sun worship
Tu descends "Arslan Senki", et j'ai trouvé ça fun. J'avais bien aimé quand j'ai vu la série, il y a longtemps. Je me lance dans le manga. On va vite voir si je finis par être d'accord avec toi ou pas ^^. Bonne bourre.
PS: ton profil est vraiment tordant.
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I don't think sales are always the main factor when it comes to a work of artistic merit wether it's Paintings, Stories, or Movies because sales also have a lot to do with demographic data and appealing to large audiences so there are scenarios where a worse piece of media is more successful
Sales and Popularity poke at more different things than quality rather they also take into account social climate and trends which is why I think Demon Slayer was also so sucessful because of the Corona Virus and the isolation causing a lot of people to start binging media a lot more
take into account a lot of the lighthearted material of Demon Slayer and I can easily see why it became popular along with the Ufotable credit
anyone who argues using sales is just wrong in my book it's best to divorce that aspect and focus on the narrative talking points
I agree with you though
While I think the anime drastically boosted manga sales I feel as if their needs to be more industry data to definitively say it was flopping in terms of sales that being said I would be open to the idea that it wasn't as popular as when the marketing and release came out
Surprised you said it started off solidly in the beginning when one of the bigger problems to me is how the series throws away building up the family dynamics and cuts to a more shock-value attempt at eliciting sympathy despite not knowing the characters more intimately