Goat taste. Sad to see you are no longer around. Wanted to talk about your Rookies review, and tell you specifically first how greatly written it was, albeit it felt more analytical than something you would promote for people to read. If you ever get around again, hope we can get to talk somehow. Peace out.
You've got stuff like Guyver on here that was a tremendous flop and cost 3/4 of a million bucks, where Welcome to the NHK was only 240,000!
This is not a new article, came out in 2012, but still- eye opening for how much this stuff costs. Funi must have a huge capital reserve to pay this kind of stuff every season for things they have no idea if it will be profitable. They make their money back on stream ads and the vast majority merch and DVD/BD sales. (which is how Aniplex gets away with robbery charging 179.99 for half a season of Fate! (weebs are willing to pay it.))
http://nerdist.com/funimations-new-strategy-to-english-dub-anime-broadcasting-in-japan/
read the comments on this page. haterz gonna hate- but Funi has been crushing it with the simuldubs. The only thing I don't like about it is that they're oversaturating the market with some half ass dubs on some shows. While it does give some noobs airtime and a chance to make a name for themselves, the major players are getting a little tired when you're seeing them in like 4 shows.
They're doing a pick 10- 5 early season, 5 late season. I'll be interested to see what the pick upf or summer series. It wont be announced for another few weeks though.
Well, you see- this kind of money is chump change for Hollywood or TV. Breaking Bad cost about 3m an EPISODE. Sum total of the series is as much as a moderate budget blockbuster movie, at about 150m. ONE SERIES, 150m in PRODUCTION!
FUnimation is getting out for probably an additional 1-300k per series when it's all said and done, depending on what it is. It's just that there's a very real possibility of a terrible ROI and FUNi gets left holding the bag. (see Guyver)
Its really hard to find the pricing for licenses since these are private companies, but there was a page (and I can find it if you're interested) that was made public through a lawsuit that showed how much licenses even for some junk shows were, and it was pretty pricey. I would imagine a FSN license could be a million dollars or more, easy. What's weird is how huge that is upfront just for the license to redistribute and even use the name.
This doesn't cover dubbing or printing costs, though from what I got from a speech by Monica Rial at a con, they get a various amount of materials when they acquire a license ranging from concept art, scripts, notes from producers and other stuff like that to sometimes just a DVD release from Japan Hahaha. Sometimes they don't get much to work with, which makes the ADR and localization work really something special.
I'm an international business student, so this kind of thing is a potential career for people in this degree program, you feel? I think it's interesting from a business perspective as well as for my personal enjoyment. Guess I'm a weirdo because everyone else wants to be a voice actor or manga artist lol.
Yeah, I've done a fair amount of research into the licensing/dubbing process. I like learning about it, the costs, and the business practices behind it. Perhaps something I'd like to get into one day. Law school, do copyright and licensing for Funi or Aniplex or Viz Media- that'd be suuuuper cool.
179.99 for half of a tv show.... the other half to come. Kill La Kill was in 5 volumes at $60 a piece... they mop up with this kind of stuff. Doesn't take many sales to recoup their investment and get into the black.
I haven't seen Shirobako, no. BUt you're not the first person to recommend it to me, so I guess I'll put it on the planned list.
Its probably better to not know and just enjoy it for what it is, but it's like With live film- everyone has actors they like and they watch movies with those people in them. Same thing with VA.
Aniplex employs some VA in house. Like Ms Ruff, Crispin Freeman, Patrick Seitz, Matt Mercer, etc. They don't dub for other companies (at least not anymore, since media blasters) Funimation does the same thing. I believe it's mostly minor roles that they'll go out and get randoms/noobs for. The Japanese do this too, but moreso. There's the same 3 people in like every show lol.
Aniplex takes longer because they choose to, actually. Funimation has proved that they can take 6 weeks, Make a good script and ADR it - so aniplex should be able to too lol
Michelle Ruff is awesome, as is Patrick Seitz. Aniplex dubs are fantastic, though they take for freakin ever to drop. I wish they'd get on the Funimation train and simuldub, but I guess they're not into that. Shame, because they employ some incredible voice talent.
(in case you haven't noticed and/or don't read my reviews, voice acting is kind of 'my thing')
Okay, cool. The version I have is the BD 1080 5.1. I knew it was going to be a sweet looking movie so I tried to get it in the highest quality possible lol. It took me 8 hours to download, but it should be worth it. Kissanime has a 720p version, but I'm pretty sure it's not 5.1. I'll hook it up to the stereo and my big TV and make a feature out of it lol.
If your bluray looks like the PV, then I have no fear mine shall be good as well
I'm curious, do you know what quality and type you watched Redline in? I noticed you reviewed it, and I acquired it recently. Curious to know if it's the visual feast it looks like it from the PV.
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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/115579-Court-Documents-Reveal-Anime-Licensing-Costs
You've got stuff like Guyver on here that was a tremendous flop and cost 3/4 of a million bucks, where Welcome to the NHK was only 240,000!
This is not a new article, came out in 2012, but still- eye opening for how much this stuff costs. Funi must have a huge capital reserve to pay this kind of stuff every season for things they have no idea if it will be profitable. They make their money back on stream ads and the vast majority merch and DVD/BD sales. (which is how Aniplex gets away with robbery charging 179.99 for half a season of Fate! (weebs are willing to pay it.))
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-06-11
I read all of this, it's where I got a chunk of my info from. Very good read.
http://nerdist.com/funimations-new-strategy-to-english-dub-anime-broadcasting-in-japan/
read the comments on this page. haterz gonna hate- but Funi has been crushing it with the simuldubs. The only thing I don't like about it is that they're oversaturating the market with some half ass dubs on some shows. While it does give some noobs airtime and a chance to make a name for themselves, the major players are getting a little tired when you're seeing them in like 4 shows.
They're doing a pick 10- 5 early season, 5 late season. I'll be interested to see what the pick upf or summer series. It wont be announced for another few weeks though.
Well, you see- this kind of money is chump change for Hollywood or TV. Breaking Bad cost about 3m an EPISODE. Sum total of the series is as much as a moderate budget blockbuster movie, at about 150m. ONE SERIES, 150m in PRODUCTION!
FUnimation is getting out for probably an additional 1-300k per series when it's all said and done, depending on what it is. It's just that there's a very real possibility of a terrible ROI and FUNi gets left holding the bag. (see Guyver)
This doesn't cover dubbing or printing costs, though from what I got from a speech by Monica Rial at a con, they get a various amount of materials when they acquire a license ranging from concept art, scripts, notes from producers and other stuff like that to sometimes just a DVD release from Japan Hahaha. Sometimes they don't get much to work with, which makes the ADR and localization work really something special.
I'm an international business student, so this kind of thing is a potential career for people in this degree program, you feel? I think it's interesting from a business perspective as well as for my personal enjoyment. Guess I'm a weirdo because everyone else wants to be a voice actor or manga artist lol.
I think they take their time because they're trying to sell you stuff like this http://www.fatestaynightusa.com/bddvd/
179.99 for half of a tv show.... the other half to come. Kill La Kill was in 5 volumes at $60 a piece... they mop up with this kind of stuff. Doesn't take many sales to recoup their investment and get into the black.
I haven't seen Shirobako, no. BUt you're not the first person to recommend it to me, so I guess I'll put it on the planned list.
Aniplex employs some VA in house. Like Ms Ruff, Crispin Freeman, Patrick Seitz, Matt Mercer, etc. They don't dub for other companies (at least not anymore, since media blasters) Funimation does the same thing. I believe it's mostly minor roles that they'll go out and get randoms/noobs for. The Japanese do this too, but moreso. There's the same 3 people in like every show lol.
Aniplex takes longer because they choose to, actually. Funimation has proved that they can take 6 weeks, Make a good script and ADR it - so aniplex should be able to too lol
(in case you haven't noticed and/or don't read my reviews, voice acting is kind of 'my thing')
If your bluray looks like the PV, then I have no fear mine shall be good as well
You mean like this? :P