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Naruto: Sasuke Retsuden - Uchiha no Matsuei to Tenkyuu no Hoshikuzu
Nov 19, 2022 4:42 PM
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Naruto was introduced and marketed earlier on in the US and had a bigger reach intially, obviously it has higher sales use your brain lil bro. Bleach had been regarded as the "worst" for a while back but now it's acclaimed as one of the best since people ACTUALLY read the manga and gave it a chance rather than collectively hating on it without even reading/watching it. It was like the shitty berserk fanbase but even worse, regurgitating the same sheepish takes. Again One Piece is LEAGUES ahead of both, but Bleach comes in second easily. Each respective narrative can be considered "repetitive" - One Piece having the same liberating resolution each arc, Naruto chasing Sasuke for the next 50 episodes, Bleach being the least repetitive with only two arcs having a rescue outline. Each of these series have a multitude of plot lines though and actually expand - Bleach has foreshadowed each and every single arc the ENTIRE manga; saying the author just writes whatever is bullshit π Arrancar Saga was already foreshadowed throughout the end of SS with the introduction of hogyuku, Fullbringer was also foreshadowed since SS/Arrancar with Chad's powers (Urahara explicits states this), and TYBW was foreshadowed since Ichigos first encounter in his inner world with zangetsu + with ichibei blurring Ywachs Name. Seems like you were too slow to catch on, but literally every arc has been purposeful and explicitly foreshadowed.
TYBW is still a better arc despite its rushed ending...It had a better cast and integration, better thematic execution and more importantly it had a definitive end goal whilst feeling like a REAL war arc. The ending of TYBW was a bit rushed I must admit but The final naruto arc was complete bullshit and kishimoto wrote himself into a corner with the amount of asspulls he gave to madara, Kashashis bullshit of achieving the perfect Susano, a plethora of wasted/disappointing characters and the entire aspect/introduction of Kaguya the interdimensional alien pulling the strings all along was just laughable. THAT shit was a complete mess in comparison and the only reason naruto is acclaimed in the first place is because of nostalgia. Give it a rewatch and you'll see the amount of inconstancies/bullshit. Bleach has remained consistent through the entirety of its manga.
One trivial facet of Aizens character alone holds more depth than any naruto character LOL. Pain is substandard and like every other naruto villain has a few notable speeches before coming out as a broken villain π Not a single antagonistic force comes close in terms of thematic execution and dynamics alone, his entire ordeal with Ichigo and conflict with "reason" throughout the series was explicit and executed perfectly. His Last Man and Ubermensch Dynamic with Kisuke and the Soul King, Nietzschean philosophies/themes, and not to mention a perfect conclusion with his retrospective on "courage" is unmatched. Again, I know it's a struggle for you to keep up and how you view him as a generic bad guy, but take a look into his character, whether its implicit or explicit, aspects of his characterization have always been there. Also the very fact that he never even needed a backstory or exposition early on further proves how strong his characterization really was, Kubo was on some togashi shit writing Aizen, his SHIKAI and ideologies already gave us an answer; there was no need to make him some broken naruto villain, the Ubermensch has no plausible/moral explanation simply just a faithful belief in oneself. Aizen was already powerful enough to ensue a concept that no ordinary person could understand, hence a backstory would just be a justification rather than exposition.
Kubo reused the same outline yet had a multitude of differing plot lines. Similarly, Oda consistently uses the liberation outline yet still introduces a plethora of new themes/characters. It's nothing new nor is it criticism, Not even repetitive when you have a whole nother cast, setting + themes. Orihime wasn't even an integral part of HM, it was mostly revolving Uqluiorra's nihilsm and Ichigo's final fight + Hollowfication.
Also using receptiveness as criticism is funny seeing most of naruto is an identical copy of HxH, Chunin Exams, Sasukes outline from Hei/Kurapika, Orichmaru using Hisokas outline, Sharigans - Kurta Clans, Atsuki, Biske(Old lady manipulating body for youth, insane strength)=Tsunade, ishimoto literally has a character named Zetsu who literally hides his presence... π
Kishimoto was a grown ass man fanboying togashi sending him fan mail LOL; Could never be the goat kubo
Tsunade and the rest are literal fanservice and treated as such; the fanbase just rambles on their chest sizes but I don't blame them, since theres nothing else other than those superficial aspects. Rukia, Yourichi, Orihime, Unohana, Soi Fon, riruka + list goes on; all shit on any naruto FC, Kishimoto literally ADMITTED to not knowing how to write female characters π
Again reiterating a point you already embarrassed yourself over; the culling games were ass and convoluted, the current battle between geto and Yuki was a literal flake with Yuki dying in the worst possible way LOL. Gojo is literally the most well written character in the entirety of JJK lol; obviously it would be stale without him, use your brain for once.
Holy shit; Makima is literal SHIT; seems like you were too slow to actually catch on to how ass she really was π Her initial characterization was great but her reveal was atrociously executed with some of the most convoluted motives/ideals each contradicting the last. She vows to create a utopia for Humans to live in (to receive her corny "hugs"; keep in mind this was completely forced in ON THE LAST CHAPTER of CSM with little to NO exposition) yet at the same time binded her life to innocent citizens, upheld literal chaos through differing contracts (gun devil, darkness, etc) and much more. Don't get me started on that shitty and corny ass "hugs" bullshit either; literally almost ZERO exposition outside of the theathre panel. Literal trash of an antagonistic force and is treated as such by that horny ass fandom LOL
Orihime's Envy/Inferiority complex alone shits on any superficial aspect of Power's. Power is somehow even worse than makima; she was an unbearably shitty comedic relief for the first half (comedy worse than in berserk and vinland saga) and the author himself wrote him into a hole with that convoluted final arc and had to revive her fodder ass only to REVIVE denji and continue the narrative...and then he killed her off the very next panel LOL π Thank god makima packed her up; did something good for once LOL
You actually take into account of MAL's skewed ratings? just shows you can't think for yourself LOL ππ
Naruto is a contradictory mess with shitty thematic execution, wasted characters, an awful female cast and should've reached a conclusion long ago before that shitty mess of boruto came about, theres a reason it's the WORST in the Big 3 π
Please don't mention CSM when it's literal SHIT in comparison and not even top 10 new gen. The main villain is literally a contradicting and convoluted mess with no actual grounded motive/ideals, shitty pacing that confines 1d characters struggling to accumulate an ounce of depth and one of the weakest casts in all of fiction. Power is a literal plot device + comedic relief (painfully unfunny) and I can't name a single notable character from P1 aside from Aki LOL.
JJk is a refreshing new gen and a great one but its starting to deteriorate and has gotten pretty stale in comparison to its acclaimed shibuya arc. Gojo and Yuji were the only somewhat notable characters and they're barely shown, any other side character gets an ounce of exposition in another convoluted fight only to die off or get buried within its narrative.
So again, name better choices. Also Bleach has higher sales than both JJK and CSM, but both ways ad populam is flawed and used only by children or the like-minded, so don't bother embarrassing yourself π