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An obvious point that I had not mentioned was the hope those low-level employees had to climb the corporate ladder (that we should call: the anti-Jacob's Ladder!). I remember them speaking about some regional director of the bank who had started like them giving credit cards at the front desk... They had not even realised that such a career trajectory had become much harder due to the over-qualification of people at higher responsibility positions. Their way of thinking is not only naïve, but also extremely vulgar: for they think that their "loyalty" will be rewarded. They give up way too easily on their self-respect.

Thank you for the article on UBI. I think that I should precise that the UBI I had in mind was enough for someone to live "comfortably" (or as Casanova would say, in a "honnête aisance"). It is obvious that the kind of UBI advocated by people like Benoît Hamon (where a woman—as in the example he chose—working for 600€ a month would get a "salary complement" of 350€) would not allow one to even rent a place in most cities of France.

I would propose the following definition: a work is noble if it increases the amount of beauty in the world (if I were speaking on the forum, I would have to brace myself for silly comments about the "subjectivity" of the said beauty). The issue to me is not to spend some time playing video games, but losing oneself completely in mindless entertainment, and wasting one's abilities to create and discover... As a reader of L'Homme qui arrêta d'écrire, I do not think that I have to explain you why the state of playing video games can be considered as orthogonal to life. Furthermore, video games, as chess, are ultimately a trivial game in the sense of Hardy in his Apology: what will remain of the life of a professional gamer? The game that they play, contrary to chess, is not even intellectual or immortal. If one can appreciate the beauty of a clever chess problem, can one get anything from people who frantically press buttons of a game that will be forgotten in a century?

It is interesting that you mention Nietzsche because I was thinking about Ecce Homo when I wrote this post: one wastes their creative capacities if all time are spent on passive endeavours, it is not only a waste but a perversion. I would say that one needs to create to save oneself from intellectual stagnation.


I know that they were not always called noble, and the artist was sadly too often considered as a parasite. None of what you mentioned is a waste of time, and it should be obvious after reading my reference to Chateaubriand. Gardening is creative and a good physical activity, raising people who will build a museum for your glory seems like a good investment, etc.

Well, lawyers can help you recover the rights of your books, so I would not make a general statement against them!

Now, I do not disagree with your quote of Nietzsche, but I think that at the light of the other quote, one should conclude that the existence of someone who does not do anything of those two-thirds of the day is not very commendable. And when it comes to the poor scholar, I would say that when he is not preparing lectures, he always works for himself! The right strategy to me is to follow Jean-Pierre Serre: refuse to be part of any committee, leave administrative work to others and focus on what really matters (the teaching duties are a small trade).


I agree, but I wonder why you speak about so-called "revisionist memoirs (sic)" (one is an essay, the other one is a récit de voyage), if Céline is slightly hyperbolic, the life in USSR did not allow one to escape from this slavery, and as such, deserves the name of second bed of Procrustes (where the first one is capitalism). They did not have the Labiche communism there...


You are right, and Céline even said that he would have preferred to live a peaceful existence as mental therapist, and that he did not aspire to live the life of "people from the dictionary." But he said that as an old man who had no other dreams than looking at boats passing by... A young Céline would have replied very differently.

Parentheses: 1) Thanks for sharing this account, I find those stories rather depressing (I am sure that you know about the video "If wojak is Japanese wagecuck"). The work life in the USA has always seemed more brutal to me than elsewhere. Some stories made me chuckle though ("pizza :) party:)"), and I think that I could share a few from my current workplace.

2) It was not a comparison between models and OF account owners, but consumers. For the average client, there is probably not much difference in the way they "use" the media they find in those magazines and websites.

3) It made me want to re-read Guignol's Band! The way Angèle ended was perhaps one of the most saddening episodes told by Céline, it reminded me of the atmosphere of the last pages of Mort à crédit. As you may have heard, Gallimard, the worst French editor of history, will finally publish La Volonté du roi Krogold in two months! But we will have to wait longer for Casse-Pipe (how did this night end?!...), probably in May when the new Pléiade edition will be published. I find it absurd that they release the new volumes that quickly... Also, the separation between novels and so-called "pamphlets" is purely arbitrary (Bagatelles was sometimes—and rightfully so!—called a novel: at this rate, D'un château l'autre could also be considered as a pamphlet—against Vichy France of course...), so it is obvious that they rushed to sell paper rather than doing the only meaningful thing: edit everything in chronological order for it is impossible to understand the significance of the Norse trilogy without having thoroughly analysed the pamphlets.

You might also want to buy the n°655 of La Nouvelle Revue française, where the unpublished novella La Vieille dégoûtante will be featured. Why can't they just put all documents—besides the "novels" that they want to sell en masse to an ignorant, snobbish audience—online? Including his correspondence with Brasillach that no one will ever buy... Or the note he wrote on the "tout petits"... This situation is a real disgrace for both scholars and Célinians alike.

P.S. Sorry if there are typos, editing messages in comments is very hard with this small, unreadable box.

Silent mobius good anime enjoy

@My response to StarfireDragon (who deleted my argued response to his wagie bullshit in the locked thread like a good coward who wants to avoid responding);


You're still avoiding my question...


You don't put your body on the line when you work 🤓?
You don't numb yourself through repetitive and meaningless tasks🤓?
The labor force of the employee comes from his body, so yes selling this labor force is selling his body.
Cope harder, wagie.


Narmy didn't say earning money is bad, which you seem to argue.
We call that a strawman.


Define "natural", I've already demonstrated money doesn't occur naturally (otherwise, it would hold no value).
Economics does not occur naturally outside of human society, and money does not have intrinsic worth.
Even Bastiat states that the need for money is a need of the state, not the people, and Bastiat is as opposed to socialism as you can get (the kind of nutjob who sees socialism in any government program).

Moneyless societies have existed, pretty much all evidence of hunter-gatherer societies indicates that they fell within this definition, or if you want a modern example, look at the Amish.
Just educate yourself, for once, I know it's hard to read after work, but give it an effort :)


You don't seem to know what "alienation" means.

Karl Marx's theory of alienation describes the estrangement (German: Entfremdung) of people from aspects of their human nature (Gattungswesen, 'species-essence')
as a consequence of the division of labor under a society of stratified social classes.
You start from the assumption that it's a choice that someone makes and that you're exempt from alienation...🤓

And you start your sentence with a strawman, just like I pointed out previously that no one said earning money is bad, I must point out that no one said money was no object (which you've put in a way that makes no sense).
Neither Narmy, nor me...
Money is defined by a governing body, not resources...
Which is why there's such a thing as a recession 🤓.


― John Maynard Keynes, Economic Possibilities for Our Grandchildren
You should seek a consultation with a professional over the condition you seem to be inflicted with.




"nO, bUt YoU DoNt UnDeRsTAnD If wE LeT ThE mArKeT rEgUlaTe ItSelF WiTh nO ReGuLAtIon PeoPLE wILl DeCide wHat Is WoRtH thEir MoNey"
What a simplistic vision of capitalism... It's not just a question of supply and demand...


Keynes even acknowledged the inevitable truth that capitalism, if left to its own devices would collapse in on itself unless there were govt interventions to regulate markets in order to prevent boom and bust cycles.
Your poor conception of the world (or lack thereof) was already outdated in the 20th century.

The problem, lil bro, is that you will always have the poor who will not know what to do with the money and those who will have learned to make it bear fruit through cultural heritage.

It's a safe bet that even that is not enough.

Our economy is sustained by mass consumer spending, not rich people’s spending. We saw what happened when it dropped off in 2020. Rich people invest & create what Marx called “fictitious capital”. Millions of poor & "middle class" (hate this word) spend all their money. Fewer & fewer have any wealth.

Useful work is work that doesn't justify itself simply by a wage, but by non-alienating personal or utilitarian goals, where the worker can take pride and recognition in his job (along with free time that isn't falsely free) wagery is parasitism since it benefits only the bourgeoisie through control of the means of production.

I could go on and quote Nietzsche on slave labor, or go into Bakunin's definition of the utility of a socialist state but I have a feeling I would just be casting pearls before swine.



I'll let you in on a little secret if you dare to come closer...
Are you ready?
You're not as smart as you seem to think you are...

Who do you think plundered South African mines? A minority, or those who own 95% of the land?
What do you think the Bank Of England's vault is filled with?

Individual prosperity has no effect on the well-being of society. On the contrary, wealth is held by a few and denies others access to the free market you touch yourself over at night.

No time to give those who not only defend their own alienation but who fight for the alienation of all.
The train is leaving for Alaska, off you go.

@IOds Shame everything was deleted, quite the cheese off over a crappy anime.
No, I have never seen The Expanse, probably never will. I can hardly sit through anything Star Trek, I'm not going to inflict 6 seasons of American Sci-Fi TV on myself, I have a life.

Hollup... Let him cook.

https://www.liberation.fr/culture/jean-luc-godard-est-mort-20220913_LLEGXZFQSFDC3FBJCP7AWXSYWI/

Small update on Céline's new books: the next one, Londres—London, as an echo to Guignol's Band, might have been a better title—is available for pre-order:

https://www.gallimard.fr/Catalogue/GALLIMARD/Blanche/Londres

The released date is the 13th of October. No news about Krogold, although it should have been the most anticipated one! But this is not very surprising for the old witch said that "it was not what people looked forward the most" (sic).

Last, but not least, if you had not heard about it, Thibaudat is writing a series of articles on the manuscripts:

https://blogs.mediapart.fr/jean-pierre-thibaudat/blog/100822/celine-le-tresor-retrouve-la-piste-morandat-59

By the way, Gallimard has already finished the audio book version of Guerre, so you might find it interesting:

https://ecoutezlire.gallimard.fr/en/products/guerre-939036df-cf52-424d-8c49-9fa6b5bb772b

(Ridiculous price [a little more than 3 hours for ~20 USD], and Denis Podalydès's English is awful, but it is otherwise okay, even if he reads too fast at times, as in his reading of Mort à Crédit—otherwise, if you cannot find the Voyage on their website because it was produced by another company, D'un chateau l'autre is available too: https://ecoutezlire.gallimard.fr/fr/t/contributor-130797).

If audio books are not a must for a first "read," I find them quite helpful to remember lines.

You are welcome, and thank for your making this superb lapsus with Lautréamont in lieu of Ducasse!

Yes, they are indeed the same person, but since one published Madoror and the other one the poems, it makes sense to keep two distinct names considering how "different" the respective writings can be judged to be. By the way, in the Pléiade edition, Gallimard only chose "Lautréamont."

Hopefully you will not pay too much for it. Do you know that Gallimard plans to make a different book for each new novel (or "tale" when it comes to La Volonté du Roi Krogold) rather than making a new Pléiade volume (that will certainly follow, although they should redo all volumes to integrate the new material)? I think that Krogold and Londres should be published next Fall, and the full edition of Casse-Pipe next year. This is a pity that you cannot find them at your local library.

Yes, I read it in a couple of days since it is quite short. I had to order it online since it was not available in my country either... When I asked people in bookstores, they did not even know who Céline was...

I doubt that you care about spoilers, but better safe than sorry:

I don't know what you want to say and I really didn't want to trigger you, bro. It's pretty based from you writing more than 5 sentences and still not calling me transphobe. Most transformer people lose at 2 sentences or so. I was just curious why someone who should be near the top of the SJW-victim-pyramide would dare to criticise SJWism. But like I said, it's not that important.

You sound like a jew hating jews and nazis equally bc you're too cool to take a site. But most jews probably know if they are male or female. Can you even tell where left and where right is? Well, anyway, I don't really care.

your Dragon Ball Super Broly review was great.
Thanks for telling the truth about that garbage movie.

Wtf, you make fun of SJW's (and rightfully so) but you're "nOn-BiNarY"? Did you lose a bet?

Favorite Books: Louis Ferdinand-Celine ---> Louis-Ferdinand Céline.

And the comte de Lautréamont wrote Maldoror, while Ducasse wrote the poems.

Have you ordered Guerre or will you buy it tomorrow?

Call it like I see it.

You're a pretty typical internet dweller at best and a pathetic troll at worst. Oh well.