1/10 - A show with absolutely no redeeming qualities or any enjoyment to be had; Even as mindless entertainment these shows are pure garbage. Stay away from these.
2/10 - A horrible show that is almost completely irredeemable. Almost everything about it is pure garbage, and the one point it has over 1/10 is purely due to one or two basic qualities (e.g. A creative setting/character design) or ironic entertainment.
3/10 - A show that may have a promising premise or interesting characters, but manages to horribly fail in executing what feelings or themes it tries to convey. It may be watchable or even enjoyable to some individuals, but still fails at meeting the basic requirements for a decent show.
4/10 - A subpar show that may be able to come across as entertaining to its target audience, but is usually very unpolished and /poorly executed, and generally fails in properly developing its characters or create a comprehensible and somewhat exciting storyline.
5/10 - A show that is just barely under average, usually meeting most basic requirements for being a decent show, but failing in many other areas. Shows within this rating criteria tend to have underdeveloped characters and simplistic storylines.
6/10 - A completely average show that represents the baseline of what shows in its specific genre are supposed to look like, or a innovative show that falls short in properly executing its thematics. Shows within this rating criteria may be good enough to warrant a recommendation to some people.
7/10 - A good show that lays a solid foundation and provides enjoyment to most viewers. Shows within this rating criteria have multiple flaws, but they are less distracting thanks to the positive aspects of the series. These shows warrant a recommendation for most viewers.
8/10 - A fantastic show that excels at some things that other anime in its specific genre fail to execute. These shows usually execute complex themes and storylines, and manage to create a fulfilling experience for the viewer. These shows only have a small number of flaws that are heavily outweighed by the generally positive experience that the anime conveys.
9/10 - An exemplary show that stands on top of all other anime in its specific genre. They creatively execute all of the complex themes that the shows tries to convey, and excels in every aspect, or completely focuses on and revolutionizes just one of them. Their flaws are minimal and the show provides an exciting or thought-provoking experience for the viewer. I regard these shows as a must-watch for anyone.
10/10 - The absolute pinnacle of anime, these shows manage to perfectly execute everything the writers try to convey, with complex characters and a spectacular storyline, as well as innovating in areas that not many other anime have managed to do before. While they may not be perfect, these shows are incredible enough that I consider them subjective masterpieces.
As I'm writing/ranting here on the 8th of April 2023, 36 of the top 50 anime on MyAnimeList are not standalone series but rather sequels - many of which are season 3s, 4s, or even later than that. Other shows like Naruto, Gintama, and One Piece go on for hundreds of episodes, and they too have inflated ratings, ranking them among some of the best shows ever created - not that these series are without merit or don't deserve praise, they certainly do... just not to the extent that they receive. I like to call this "the sequel effect". While on its own, the sequel effect is a fun observation to make, it shines a light on the fundamental issue with MAL's rating system and why overall ratings should never be taken for what they are.
When people watch the first season or first few episodes of a series and find serious flaws in it - insulting to one's intelligence, boring, artistically challenged, whatever it is - oftentimes, they drop it and move on. Unless there's a seriously noticeable drop in quality, the viewers of the show give sequels the same rating - or even higher, because more time spent with a show means more fear of admitting that they wasted their time. As such, every subsequent season climbs higher and higher up the rankings - with shows like Attack on Titan season 15 trillion part 47, gintama episode 5000 season 12 cour 14, and kaguya-sama OVA 40 or season 6 making it into the top 10, where, frankly, they don't belong. This effect is not too dissimilar from when manga readers say "the anime hasn't even gotten to the good part!!!" to justify watching their mid series. There will never be a good part. This is cope.
The point I'm making here is that it doesn't take much for an average show to go up in rankings, leaving hidden gems and true masterpieces stuck with low 8 ratings or even less than that. When a widely appealing series is watchedhed by lots of people, the average rating goes up because the average viewer rate shows a 7 or an 8 as the baseline, not as a marker of achievement. If there's something of substance in the show - a reason to cry, say, that rating goes up even more. A person who critiques some aspects of an anime might see the flaws but still recognize its merits and so he rates it, say, a 6. Very few people will rate a popular, widely appealing series anything 5 or under, even though MAL's rating system indicates 5 as average.
People often don't look past a series' appearances unless they're told to - if it's a psychological show, maybe yes, they try to figure things out on their own - but oftentimes they wait for explanations from the story instead of challenging themselves. High production values, cute or surface-level relatable characters (such as in Oreigaru, bocchi the rock), drama injected for the sake of drama (I too am guilty of overrating some shows *cough* YLIA, a show which seriously suffers from this *cough*), it's all easy to consume and easy to take at face value. If executed with a modicum of good taste - you have yourself a crowdpleaser. If you're looking to mindlessly consume, myanimelist's overall ratings can help guide you in a general direction - input a genre and start scrolling until you find an anime series with at least 24 episodes so that you get irrationally attached to shallow characters - but if you want to find something you'll truly enjoy, go carve your own path and pick out the unusual - maybe you'll find something special that MAL ratings would never show you otherwise.
you have a problem that a shit ton of reviewers that give beloved shows low scores have
hating the hammer
bit of a writing concept for you
there is two ways to write a character breaking down. we'll call these the hammer and the scalpel. the hammer is a big blow. things that would obviously traumatise a character, for instance subaru witnessing the death of all his friends. the scalpel is a more surgical blow that is shows us something about a character. something like this would be when (hoping youve seen avatar) azula goes insane after being crowned fire lord. this shows us something about azula.
the reason why you would want to use the hammer over the scalpel is when you just need a character pushed to something and you dont need to say anything really too significant about them. for whatever reason you seem to think any use of the hammer is just cheap writing
Can't say anything about NGE since I haven't watched it, but if you ask me, Sonny Boy is more approachable than the bunch. Without going into too much detail, SB focuses more on the 'experience' through its ingenious use of audiovisuals, putting you in these characters' shoes that are just as clueless as you are after being transported into realms unknown. While it can be really obscure at times (intentionally so on the writer's part, which is also responsible for the show's 'pretentious' label), its themes of growth and coming-of-age stay clear throughout; any other thematics it touches on in its acid trip episodes are left to interpretation, and can be left unsolved.
I can very much relate to the fear you mentioned. It's like, whenever I want to watch something I know I'll love or something I know will require a significant amount of brain activity, I often brush it aside to get to it later, waiting for 'the right time' (Mamoru Oshii's films are no strangers to this status). I'm afraid that I won't be able to appreciate it if I'm not in the right state of mind, or afraid that I couldn't enjoy it as much with real-life matters interfering with my watching experience; so yeah, I don't think it's dumb to have this mindset :)
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From what I've seen, people don't like Psycho-Pass or see it as average, nothing special because it seems derivative on its surface, offering nothing new to the genre; simply another crowd pleaser overhyped by the 'normies.' I may be wrong in this part, though, but what I do know is that Psycho-Pass is actually pretty damn deep. Yes, it wears its heart on its sleeve, what's with its - dare I say - blunt approach to its themes of morals, the nature of crime, and really, what it means to be alive, and its blatant philosophical quote exchange laid its stomach bare to the accusation of being pretentious and shallow. But dig a little deeper, and you'll be greeted with an extremely well-written script within an extremely well-realized cyberpunk setting and a diverse, well-realized cast to drive its heart and themes forward.
That's what I like about Psycho-Pass; being blunt doesn't undermine its more nuanced aspect: a sophisticated study on a highly-surveillance dystopian society where morals are but numbers and what's good, what's bad—humans' life are determined by a machine. If anything, its straightforwardness makes it much more engaging and hype to watch, being first-class entertainment while still providing some juicy food for thought, able to be enjoyed by the casual viewers and more critical ones, provided that they aren't too far up their own asses (just in case, sorry if this comes off as a prod to you, know that I really didn't mean it that way); a crowd pleaser indeed.
If you're interested, I recommend checking out SingleH's thorough, excellent write-up, as well as Gsarthotegga's review.
Man, talking about Psycho-Pass reminded me how much I need to rewatch it; been itching to rewrite that hella redundant notes (that also makes no sense when I think about it lol), and I need to refresh my stance on it after my second turning point as an anime watcher somewhere earlier this year :p
OMK is literally four volumes, Fire Punch is only eight volumes, etc, go for stuff like that first to ease in.
It's a weird premise but I promise it's better than it should be.
Eventually is fine, I feel like I watch a lot of anime but some people on here make it through a full length show every week! So we're all at different amounts of hardcoreness.
i'm not watching/reading much the last feel days thanks to school and health issues but when i had the chance i was watching jojo part 3, it's a little bit slow now but generally pretty solid so far i've been watching. i'm not a shounen dude, but watching one once in a while is pretty fun!
I've also read your bocchi review and i pretty much think the same. BTR didn't make me laugh most of the times (even though i've suffered a lot and still suffer from Social Anxiety from time to time) and relies most of the times on the "Shes's just like me for real!" aspect. I'm not into the "cute girls doing cute things" genre but BTR really does it job, it just isn't my cup of tea. Good review dude!
Aww don't delete anything, it shows your growth if you leave them all up! Idk which of mine are the best, I want to make a positive one soon so as to not be a killjoy complainer reviewer lol.
Get over it now! Lol
Totoro is, even by Ghibli standards, very much a kids film. Stuff like Kiki and Whisper of the Heart might have a bit more relevance for adults.
I think you do have to be in the mood for most of the studio's films though.
Okay now I really feel like I have to sell manga to you: You know how Madoka (my favourite anime!) wouldn't work if it wasn't anime? How it needs the vivid colour and movement and unique OST etc?
There are manga that would not work if they weren't manga. Even with an amazing adaptation stuff like Berserk, Onanie Master Kurosawa, Kouya ni Kemono etc would always be suited to the manga format more. Here are some things about manga that can't be replicated in anime:
1. Dark, highly shaded artstyles: Pretty much everything gets brightened up for anime, which is a plus if you like colour, but some stories just don't work if they're not blackened and gritty looking, which is unfortunate because detailed shading in anime is not so common
2. Paneling: I don't know how it works exactly but some manga just have amazing flow to the paneling, there's lots of interesting experimentation like below for example: A portrayal of a near-dead man's consciousness slipping away as a vision comes into his mind, this wouldn't work so well outside of manga
3. The page turn: The moment when you turn the page onto an amazing detailed or wordless page or spread is priceless
4. There are WAYYYY more manga with amazing art versus anime with amazing animation, the amount of great artists out there is insane, and you're able to tell them apart always as opposed to how so much anime looks the same.
5. Expression: Anime is expressive, but so often doesn't have such unique ones where that tell you so much you understand a specific feeling even without words
Thanks! Your BtR review is well-articulated as well; I agree with a lot of your points, and it's glad to see another Anzu appreciator :p Honestly, I found it disappointing that BtR hammers comedy more than anything since Saitou doesn't handle comedy as well as he handles genuine character drama; he did one hell of a job in Sonny Boy's evocative 8th episode, being arguably the series' highest point saves the climax, and also a piece that I'd recommend :) (I saw it's already on your PTW; go get to it!)
As for other rec, I highly suggest you check out 3-gatsu no Lion (on your PTW as well); while having a very different flavor from Bakemonogatari, it's another one of Shinbou's directorial genius on top of one of the best character studies in anime, with its exploration of depression, belongings, and discovering self-value, among many other things. Even if you couldn't get into its drama - given its (very) sentimental approach and tonal whiplash - I'm assured you'll enjoy the audiovisuals treat nonetheless. Another, safer rec would be Fate/Zero; written by the same guy behind Madoka, it's a perfect blend of shounen action and genuinely deep character writing with a thick brush of nihilism vs. determination seen in Urobuchi's other works, and it's in its strongest display here. Though, I'm not 100% sure about this one since you didn't seem to like Psycho-Pass, which has more similarities to it than Madoka lol.
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hating the hammer
bit of a writing concept for you
there is two ways to write a character breaking down. we'll call these the hammer and the scalpel. the hammer is a big blow. things that would obviously traumatise a character, for instance subaru witnessing the death of all his friends. the scalpel is a more surgical blow that is shows us something about a character. something like this would be when (hoping youve seen avatar) azula goes insane after being crowned fire lord. this shows us something about azula.
the reason why you would want to use the hammer over the scalpel is when you just need a character pushed to something and you dont need to say anything really too significant about them. for whatever reason you seem to think any use of the hammer is just cheap writing
Katanagatari
Sangatsu no Lion
Samurai Champloo
I can very much relate to the fear you mentioned. It's like, whenever I want to watch something I know I'll love or something I know will require a significant amount of brain activity, I often brush it aside to get to it later, waiting for 'the right time' (Mamoru Oshii's films are no strangers to this status). I'm afraid that I won't be able to appreciate it if I'm not in the right state of mind, or afraid that I couldn't enjoy it as much with real-life matters interfering with my watching experience; so yeah, I don't think it's dumb to have this mindset :)
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From what I've seen, people don't like Psycho-Pass or see it as average, nothing special because it seems derivative on its surface, offering nothing new to the genre; simply another crowd pleaser overhyped by the 'normies.' I may be wrong in this part, though, but what I do know is that Psycho-Pass is actually pretty damn deep. Yes, it wears its heart on its sleeve, what's with its - dare I say - blunt approach to its themes of morals, the nature of crime, and really, what it means to be alive, and its blatant philosophical quote exchange laid its stomach bare to the accusation of being pretentious and shallow. But dig a little deeper, and you'll be greeted with an extremely well-written script within an extremely well-realized cyberpunk setting and a diverse, well-realized cast to drive its heart and themes forward.
That's what I like about Psycho-Pass; being blunt doesn't undermine its more nuanced aspect: a sophisticated study on a highly-surveillance dystopian society where morals are but numbers and what's good, what's bad—humans' life are determined by a machine. If anything, its straightforwardness makes it much more engaging and hype to watch, being first-class entertainment while still providing some juicy food for thought, able to be enjoyed by the casual viewers and more critical ones, provided that they aren't too far up their own asses (just in case, sorry if this comes off as a prod to you, know that I really didn't mean it that way); a crowd pleaser indeed.
If you're interested, I recommend checking out SingleH's thorough, excellent write-up, as well as Gsarthotegga's review.
Man, talking about Psycho-Pass reminded me how much I need to rewatch it; been itching to rewrite that hella redundant notes (that also makes no sense when I think about it lol), and I need to refresh my stance on it after my second turning point as an anime watcher somewhere earlier this year :p
It's a weird premise but I promise it's better than it should be.
Eventually is fine, I feel like I watch a lot of anime but some people on here make it through a full length show every week! So we're all at different amounts of hardcoreness.
I've also read your bocchi review and i pretty much think the same. BTR didn't make me laugh most of the times (even though i've suffered a lot and still suffer from Social Anxiety from time to time) and relies most of the times on the "Shes's just like me for real!" aspect. I'm not into the "cute girls doing cute things" genre but BTR really does it job, it just isn't my cup of tea. Good review dude!
Sorry for the late response, i was sleeping lol
Get over it now! Lol
Totoro is, even by Ghibli standards, very much a kids film. Stuff like Kiki and Whisper of the Heart might have a bit more relevance for adults.
I think you do have to be in the mood for most of the studio's films though.
Okay now I really feel like I have to sell manga to you: You know how Madoka (my favourite anime!) wouldn't work if it wasn't anime? How it needs the vivid colour and movement and unique OST etc?
There are manga that would not work if they weren't manga. Even with an amazing adaptation stuff like Berserk, Onanie Master Kurosawa, Kouya ni Kemono etc would always be suited to the manga format more. Here are some things about manga that can't be replicated in anime:
1. Dark, highly shaded artstyles: Pretty much everything gets brightened up for anime, which is a plus if you like colour, but some stories just don't work if they're not blackened and gritty looking, which is unfortunate because detailed shading in anime is not so common
2. Paneling: I don't know how it works exactly but some manga just have amazing flow to the paneling, there's lots of interesting experimentation like below for example: A portrayal of a near-dead man's consciousness slipping away as a vision comes into his mind, this wouldn't work so well outside of manga
3. The page turn: The moment when you turn the page onto an amazing detailed or wordless page or spread is priceless
4. There are WAYYYY more manga with amazing art versus anime with amazing animation, the amount of great artists out there is insane, and you're able to tell them apart always as opposed to how so much anime looks the same.
5. Expression: Anime is expressive, but so often doesn't have such unique ones where that tell you so much you understand a specific feeling even without words
As for other rec, I highly suggest you check out 3-gatsu no Lion (on your PTW as well); while having a very different flavor from Bakemonogatari, it's another one of Shinbou's directorial genius on top of one of the best character studies in anime, with its exploration of depression, belongings, and discovering self-value, among many other things. Even if you couldn't get into its drama - given its (very) sentimental approach and tonal whiplash - I'm assured you'll enjoy the audiovisuals treat nonetheless. Another, safer rec would be Fate/Zero; written by the same guy behind Madoka, it's a perfect blend of shounen action and genuinely deep character writing with a thick brush of nihilism vs. determination seen in Urobuchi's other works, and it's in its strongest display here. Though, I'm not 100% sure about this one since you didn't seem to like Psycho-Pass, which has more similarities to it than Madoka lol.