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Hmm Shounen you say, well i am not currently reading anything, but i have read jujutsu kaisen a lot, it was pretty good, other then that i read A few chapters of chainsaw man and Hell's paradise, they were really solid but i dropped them when both got anime announcements lol. Actualy i might pick them again cause i dont really have any other shounen to read rn. In terms of watching, i just rewatched Hunter x Hunter again, probably my fav shounen of all time. You should really watch that one if you havent, particularly the 2011 adaptation. The 1999 one is good too but it adapts only half as much as the 2011 version, leaving the best arc, The chimera ant arc, the whole show is worth watching for that alone( though everything else is awesome too). Other than that i saw haikyuu, that one is awesome too if you like sports anime. Scratch that, even if you dont like or never seen a sports anime, its really good

Thanks for the reply, wow i am actually feeling a pretty huge knowledge gap because i am havent seen or played the fate route. I dont remember them mentioning that shirou walked through a thousand people that were begging for help, i remember a few scenes but they didnt explain it( or maybe i am forgetting something my bad lol). NGL you actually made me changed my mind about shirou a little bit, but only a little. Like i said Maybe cause i prefer shirou's fate in HF way more, i am not too fond of his character in Ubw. Other than that, yeah i kind of get it that you have 3 routes and not every character can get fleshed in each, but i still think Kirei one didnt make sense, lancer should have immediately killed himself, he was specifically ordered to die. They should have given kirei a more clever death. Infact now i think about it, i actually think they should have merged the 3 routes into one narrative and get the best of all 3 worlds. I know thats what they kinda did with 2006 version, but i cant help but feel, if the writer is competent enough, they can surely achieve it. HMmmm lmao i dont know it feels both achievable and impossible, but if i remember Steins Gate, one of my fav anime of all time, was originally a vn. Now i dont know if it had routes like this but the idea of one coherent narrative sounds better to me, but ONLY IF YOU HAVE TO ABILITY TO SATISFYINGLY DO THAT. With fate series i think it might become too complex to handle. Lastly, i like Rin a lot, like i mentioned in my previous comment, she and Archer were one of my fav parts about ubw, and while i dont hate tsundere, i usually dont love them either but she was one of the better tsundere. Its just in comaparison to Sakura i found her less interesting( still a great waifu lol). Plus you are right about me liking darker storytelling lmao, ofcourse i am not very nitpicky, i will watch anything if its interests me, my list of fav anime contains everything from romcoms, to historical fiction, to dark fantasy, to slice of life, and even Shonen. Lmao you must think i really hate shonen for how much i call everything shonen esque, but thats not true, i actually enjoy shonen the most( ok that might be a lie, i like seinen the most, but shonen gives overall more excitement and enjoyment). I just cant stand self righteous anime protagonists who shove their ideals on everyone else even though the other person makes more sense, but now especially after reading your assesment, i agree shirou's not that bad. Anyways thanks for the clarification on some points and for the reply.

Hi! Yeah so i actually ended up liking the second half of ubw more or less the same as the first. Here are the positives, Even though i saw the Archer twist more or less coming it was still pretty good. The final battle with Gilgamesh was pretty sweet and Gil as a villains was pretty good too. I ended up liking the romance too, Rin was a really nice Lead and i actually liked Saber here more than HF( well she didnt had any screentime in it at all lmao). The supporting cast was all great especially Caster and Lancer stole the show everytime they were there, and the ep where Illyasveil died was one of my fav of the whole series.

Now, all of that said, i had a HUGE FUCKING problem with the second half of Ubw, and that was Emiya Shirou, Boyyyy did i hate that kid. Like seriously his philosophy of hero of justice and saving everyone made my eyes roll so hard, it felt like i was watching a crappy shonen. Especially coming right out of Fate/Zero. with a really fleshed out anti hero lead, Emiya Kiritsugu, shirou felt such a downgrade. The constant blabbering between him and Archer bored me to death, like i get it, shirou has this ideology of justice and it doesnt really matter if it was his or not, but i really wanted the writers to make the effort for him to earn it and can we please not shove it down our throat every 5 min, give shirou more of a inner struggle to really sell the motivation because you never genuinely feel it. Plus i completely agreed with every word archer said, it made complete sense and Shirou could literally see what the end result of his future self would be. Then finally when they both started fighting and i prayed Archer just murders him, that fucking basterd just kept getting stronger every 10 seconds. Archer said something like there are some mages that have the ability to get stronger the more they fight. Excuse me but how and when shirou got that ability? Plus Archer had so many chances to kill him but no he missed every single time, he could have easily killed him back at the temple when caster was first introduced. I know he was subconsciously holding back but that just ruins the character immersion.

Now there were other minor issues with ubw, they did my boy Kirei dirty, he was such a good villain in Zero and he just died like that. He commanded Lancer to kill himself right so why didnt he do that? Almost everyone forgot about Sakura and how shinji was abusing her in the early ep cause fuck she has her own route for that. Saber( and almost anyone from Fate/Zero) were huge downgrades from the prequel, the whole arc of saber trying to rewrite her guilty past was forgotten and now we have a legendary warrior whose only purpose is to become shirou's sword. Gilgamesh, while a nice villain, didnt had the same level of depth kirei had in Zero, infact i would say Gil was a much better and engaging character in Zero than here, but he was still pretty cool. Shirou not finding out Kiritsugu's true past and Illyasveil being so wasted was another bummer.

Many of these issues i had, were to my surprise, resolved in HF. Shirou dumped his stupid ideology after a pretty good inner struggle and character developement, There were no exposition dumps or heavy monolouges every 5 minutes. I actually ended up liking Shirou in heavens feel, can you believe that lmao. We had more of Kirei as a villains and he was pretty good, while Saber was again wasted, she still served as a great tool for shirou for developement, like when shirou killed her, that felt earned and Ubw could never do that. Most of storylines started in zero finally got resolved. Emiya and Illyasveil came to terms with Kiritsugu's past and also with each other, there relationship was one of the highlights of HF. I also liked rider a lot. But perhaps the biggest plus point for me in HF was the female lead, Sakura Matou. While i liked Rin in ubw, she was your average likable tsundere high school girl. Sakura on the other hand was a complete opposite.She was a really flawed and twisted character.The way the movies explored her dark side through the use of emotions like jealousy and lust was pretty refreshing. You dont often see the main heroine masturbating on screen calling our mc's name. Now while some might say those sexual scenes were unnecessary, i have to disagree. That was some great character building, we see how much darkness lurkes inside her, and how much she struggles. The dream sequence in Lost butterly where she imagines herself as a disney princess and pops the monsters to find candy where in actually she was getting cut to pieces by gilgamesh was pretty darn impressive. The beautiful rain scene between her and shirou and the sex scene really helps the viewer understand how just how much sakura means to shirou, Or otherwise it would have been the same mistake like ubw, where he tried to childishly try to save everyone and here he would have killed everyone for her sake even though it wouldnt have been the right thing to do and lot more peope could have been saved, but we really understand that sakura is the most important to her and he doesnt give shit about other. Matou zouken was also pretty good villain, and the ending while a little confusing, was 4really emotionally satisfying. Ofcourse HF had flaws too, and i dont know what or how much they cut out,but i found it much better than Ubw ( though i still prefer Zero over both lol).

Ok thats it lmao, i might have gone overboard with the critique but seeing how Zero and HF dealt with majority of my problems makes me go a little harder on Ubw, i still think ubw had the best fight scenes out of all fate, the cinematography and music was awesome( brave shine was a banger) and Archer and Rin were pretty good character, i still enjoyed the whole fate series a lot. I was planning on playiny the Vn but ITS SO GODDAMN LONG lmao, so i ended up starting another chronologically messed up series, The Monogatari series lmao. Thats it for me and sorry if its a little long.

Edit: Holy Shit i didnt even realise how much i wrote lmao really sorry

I see, nice, thanks for taking the time for this. I was originally planning to see 2006 version after heavens feel, but now i will just see the saber route on yt. Imma go and watch part 2 now, hope its as good as Zero's part 2. Thanks again

Yeah just finished Part 1 of UBW, so far i am really liking the series. The action is outstanding and the story is much more complex than i thought, i actually had the impression this was a full on battle shonen lol but its a lot more dialogue heavy. Absolutely loved the whole cast of Zero especially Kiritsugu, Gilgamesh and Iskandar. But i have to admit, UBW, while really good till now, failed to top Zero for me, hope that changes in part 2. Having said that i am really loving Archer and Rin. Oh yeah, i had a question, i actually skipped the 2006 adaptation, is the saber route worth watching and what about the spin offs. Sorry if i wrote too much lol

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