'Grendizer U' TV Anime Announced for 2024

This Robert mf actually a brainlet.

So, do you think SEED remains a golden example of Gundam for young audiences? I even wonder if the announcement of the new SEED movie right after the end of The Witch was some kind of damage control. Or more likely they just used it to refresh the memory of the brand?

tbh, Licorice kind of got popular for the wrong reasons. 90%+ of the talk was on the yuri. Just think how barbie became a billion dollar movie. Hide what it is so it doesn't get blased in the marketing. Then have people rally up behind it. Lycorice had abnromally high disc sales with viewership not equivalent to the shonens. There was a lack of merch when it came out, so the shippers inflated the blu ray sales. They likely got broke after that and couldn't keep up with all the model kits. But neither girls topped best girl of the year.

All the Licorice merch is coming way too later now, and the pre-orders are already heavily slowing down. Over a year is too late to keep interest for an anime.The preorders have a high chance of  cancellation since you don't know if it has a direct sequel, and when that will be.

Regardless, neither of which are gundam seed levels of cult and success.

I just can't understand why a brand with such a huge history and ability to make money made so many of the most simple and naive mistakes out of the blue. For example, create a lot of monotonous mecha, even inviting different designers from different shows. And do I understand you correctly, G-Witch, being a complete yuri, completely lost to Licorice on all fronts, which, if desired, could even not even be considered as yuri bait? Or are you implying that they just picked a bad timing and targeted an audience that already spent too much money last season?

WfM practically had around over 26 suits in 24 episodes. Seed and Destiny had 40 suits in 100 episodes. We are excluding backpack changes, recolours, different box arts which were common for the Cosmic era times.  This is just regular release.
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/High_Grade_the_Witch_from_Mercury
https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/High_Grade_Gundam_SEED#SEED_Destiny_
WfM targetted the broke shippers with an insane amount of suits, hoping they will buy it all. Then favored the broke shippers over its long time customers. Looks like it backfired. WfM designs don't appeal to UC fans either. I had to pause the WfM show heavily to figure out which suit is where, something I never had to do with the previous series.

Even IBO didn't vomit as many suits as WfM did with only 36 suits in 50 episodes, many of which are barbatos variants

Lycoris Recoil figures are going to bin like crazy in 2024 since they vomitted so many Chisato and Takina variants, on a show that probably hasno real direct sequel to hype it up. Once again, target broke shippers who managed to inflate LycoReco blu ray discs cuz there was a lack of merch out when it aired.

And just when I gave you the opportunity for you to be the bigger person. You know tone doesn't come across on the internet, so how would you know whether I'm nervous or not. But I guess ad hominem is pretty cool. You know I don't even care about Char and Amuro all that much. I was merely making a point about, how it's not uncouth for anyone to see it in a romantic sense, but you seem to believe in objectivism. I never even one said Char and Amuro were gay either.

I really don't get the Lupin thing though. Sorry, I just had to test if you'd keep your word, as the last time you said this in this topic it was a lie. Also did you just use "autistic" as a slur? I hardly find this discussion, anything to insult people over. Whether I am actually autistic, is a matter which is frankly irrelevant. You asked this in my personal messages once as well, why does this matter to you? You seem to be taking this awfully personally for someone, who calls other people out as nervous and whatever.

No you did say that Elan was a Rei clone, the comment is in fortressMaximum or whatever that guys' name is comment section, It's really weird and petty that I still remember this, seeing as how I only once caught a glimpse of it. Just seems weird to me how Rei is the first thing you'd think about if you had seen Zeta or ZZ.

In this case, we are back to the fact that the show had huge time problems. In theory, I can understand why they wanted to make a show that is 2 cours long, but I find it hard to believe that this writing was originally intended and that they are so strongly not taken care of wasting so many topics and subplots. Everything rather looks as if they were placed against their will in such a tight deadline.

It shows the poor time management of WfM. They put a lot of suits, but many didn't have enough screentime. You have to pause to figure which ones were there. You never had this problem for the original series, zeta/zz, Seed/destiny, wing. It is ironic how the shippers paid little attention to the suits.

Well, I always watch new merch streams and I noticed that they had no problem promoting the most minor content from UC, while G-Witch merch almost always focused on either Suletta x Miorine or Super Sentai goods like "pick your favorite character" if you know what I mean. I also feel like this show was so non-Gundam that people just weren't interested in any kits outside of the central characters' robots. Or are you saying that the audience of the show wasn't even interested in gundam gunpla if it wasn't piloted by the main characters?

Expect to see fewer G-Witch restocks now outside aerials, calibarns, lfriths. It is going to be a hard sell compared to the Universal Century stuff. especially since bandai basically declared WfM finished

I heard about the Schwarzetta scandal where a bunch of people literally canceled their pre-orders after learning that Lauda would be piloting it just for one fight in the final. In any case, do you think that all this shit with the acceptance of the show ruined this timeline?

Nagai has been doing this since 1970.
https://myanimelist.net/character/151570/Tatsuma_Midou

You should see the stacks of dilenzas , demi trainers, heindree, zoworts that are already on sale. Real hard to sell them now with the universe effectively finished.

There's a difference between an ordinary discussion and an autistic argument for the sake of an argument, where you just can't stop looking endlessly for loopholes to continue the argument because it's too personal for you. Hell, you literally even started researching my anime list to use this as a cheap attempt to get me to make excuses.  Hell, even when it was obvious to you why I mentioned Lupin, you still pretend you didn't understand it to stretch out the opportunity to argue. Even attributing other people's words to me, since I never said that Elan was a clone of Rei, these were the words of another guy. You don't even pay attention to who and why is texting you. Especially now, when even you yourself admit that you are arguing not for the sake of finding the truth, but for the sake of playing for the public.

Oh...Homoeroticism alone doesn't make things looks gay or characters gay. Homoerotic overtones have existed for years to emphasize the power of emotional tension and confrontation or intimacy between characters. Heck, some shows have even become memes due to writers overusing homoerotic stuff for platonic stuff, which is why people found it funny. Any person who really knows about art and isn't doing shit like "they look at each other, that's so gay!" knows about it. And it's not even the Hibike situation where Yamada literally used romantic metaphors for platonic things, it's literally a subtext to highlight the tension between the confronting characters. If you literally don't realize that your attempts to be a reasonable conversationalist are meaningless and you are increasingly looking like a weirdo who sees homosexuality in any melodramatic scene or epic moment, then the conversation is really pointless. You are literally obsessed with this shit, continuing to cling to it nervously even when it makes sense in the context and you don't need to be super-intelligent to understand why Tomino did it. 

So stop this shitty bait arguing for the sake of arguing, the only one here who wants to "win the argument" is you. This was my last reply to you here.

I merely wanted to convey that it has basis, doesn't really matter to me whether people think of the characters as gay in general. Funny how you somehow pulled Lupin into this when I didn't even mention it in my post responding to you. Tomino's remarks about Char and Amuro merely served as an example of it not being ridiculous for anyone to perceive them as gay. It's not a matter of me doubting whether you've seen the show based on your opinions on it, it's just that it isn't on your list. So I'm free to assume our experience is second hand. Especially with how from  my perceived experience there is no way for you to have seen Zeta Gundam, considering your remarks about Elan being a Rei clone. Yet if you have seen the show, since this why have you yet to add it onto your list.

I just thought that it would be nice to give an authority opinion on this matter, seeing as how you evidently do not believe in personal reading. I'd even say that you're practically infantilizing Tomino, for the confrontation to be homoerotic for the sense of dramatic tension does not take away from the fact that it's still homoerotic.
Are you perhaps trying to tell me that he does not perceive this scene as gay at all, even though to my memory he has gone on the record about intending for this particular scene to be homoerotic.

I could say the same words of ad hominem right back at you, but like about class s or something, seeming as that's the only thing you seem really serious about. I do not care for whether you read this, as I think it might still be interesting for other people. 

By the way Robert maybe don't respond if you don't want people to give further opinions, or is it really you who wants to win "arguments" the most out of all. I will seize this completely if you decide not to respond. Though I should really personally follow this logic myself.

Oh, they learned their lesson this time, lol.

Those plastic gundam toys need to be sold. And that's all that matters.

In this case, it turns out that Bandai with this show deceived themselves, because in the end they managed to somehow disappoint and scare away two opposing audiences and never created a strong fan base for at least G-Witch itself, not to mention a new audience for franchises in general. Even the western media turned their backs on them after they did a clumsy retcon in an attempt... but what were they really hoping for with this?

The biggest money on anime is made on toys. The lack of sales outside main suits can include declining viewership ir people skipping to the end.

They put so much emphasis on guel having the big fight with shaddiq. Yet the guys aren't buying his suits. Not to mention his former fiancee and love interest are supposedly together. Basically mako, korra, asami triangle all over again. Guel is basically just mako.

Only explanation is the shippers drove the guys off. They probably had enough of them bashing animes they deem misogynistic despite not watching them, and boycotted the whole line as a protest.

The author decided to add homoerotic tension as a tribute to the fujoshi part of the fandom or emphasize the emotional tension of their confrontation...they were gay and the show has always been gay since that time - a classic. And of course, everyone who disagrees with your assessment of the show simply did not watch it, because your assessments are obvious and indisputable. You don't have to continue. You're trying to sound like a reasonable conversationalist who argues rationally, but the more I know you, the more you sound like a fanatic slash shipper who treats everything as "they're gay" and is willing to take things out of context for the sake of it (not even understanding how homoerotic subtext work or not paying attention that in the first part of the comment I spoke about Lupin at all). And do not even try to turn it into an endless flood for the sake of flooding again, you have long been on my ignore list after past attempts.
You're implying now that Bandai decided to stop this because they noticed that the shipper orientation simply doesn't sell kits outside of female characters, and they can't leave out male characters because will it scare away the old audience completely?

Yabuki's was always known to be kind of a terrible writer, and the ending of to Love Ru was so half assed. But the guy is like the god of ecchi. For Tachibana, he is actually a legitimately amazing writer which is why there was so much discussion on DAL for Season 4 and will be talk of the town for season 5 onwards. Since it all goes back to season 1. I have only read the first volume of king's proposal where protag basically has the rito/riko, they introduced the garden of knights, lots of isekai shenanigans. Lots of fan service type of stuff and creative shenanigans Tachibana is writing at half the pace vs when he wrote DAL. I will hopefully catch up on the other 2 volumes later.
As for WfM, now a lot of the gunplas are just going to p-bandai. https://www.reddit.com/r/Gunpla/comments/15jdvcf/pbandai_hg_wfm_1144_demi_garrison_2200_yen/.
There is a huge disrepancy between how the gundams like calibarns, aerials sold and everything else. Like even Guel's suits who had multiple fights notably the (darilblade vs michaelis )are kind of sitting on shelves.