Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for February 11 - 17

Yeah, your example could not prove anything. And how about Psycho-Pass, does it have the WORST budget? How about Shinsekai Yori? At a late stage of a season it is not uncommon to see sakuga quality drop. Why so certain that LB! has the WORST budget out of all in this season? Besides, Bad animation is not always caused by a low budget -- this is my whole point. Throwing occasional pics of bad art or animation do not prove much for the budget. To say that it necessarily mean a low budget is very much jumping to conclusion.

Remember when people were trying to argue that Little Busters didn't have the worst budget of the season?

Christ

I originally thought GaruPan v2 could do 1~1.5k but now based on more ranking data, i'd estimate it to be around 1~1.2k 1st week, since it's just above Hyouka and much under Psycho-Pass (typically does ~1.5k on DVD).

For GaruPan v2's 1st week, i've been estimating it to be in the vicinity of 23~25k... but I would love to be underestimating, lol.



I'd expect Jojo v2 on DVD to take a hit because v1 was very very cheap at ￥1927 for 3 eps compared to v2 at ￥2952 for 3 eps.

It has also consistently ranked above Psycho-Pass but below New Prince of Tennis. I'd estimate around 1.5~2.5k 1st week, considering New Prince of Tennis has been steadily dropping in DVD sales as seen below...

○新テニスの王子様 【全6巻】
巻数　　　初動　　　　　 累計　　　 発売日
　　　　 DVD(BD)　　　DVD(BD)
01巻　4,770(1,201)　7,160(*,***)　12.04.20 ※合計 8,361枚
02巻　4,581(1,312)　6,578(*,***)　12.06.22 ※合計 7,890枚
03巻　4,621(1,363)　6,168(*,***)　12.08.24 ※合計 7,531枚
04巻　3,709(*,***)　5,184(*,***)　12.10.26
05巻　2,903(*,***)　4,150(*,***)　12.12.21
06巻　*,***(*,***)　*,***(*,***)　13.02.22 ※合計 *,***枚

Updated for today.

One should bear in mind that the sales for each day do not hold the same weight. The actual sales in the release date (here it is Feb 20 or Feb 22) would definitely be much bigger compared to other days. The day before the release date (Feb 19 and Feb 21) is the second most important day to watch, as many retailers (particularly online ones) ship new titles one day earlier.

Key observations:

- Ookami Kodomo is very strong. And particularly on a weekend day like Feb 23. This is because for a title with mainstream appeal, weekend sales usually jumps.

- Yamato 2199 is another title doing very well in both DVD and BD side. As is T&B movie to a lesser extent. KuroBas is very strong on DVD but still doing not bad on BD front.

- GirlPan v2 is showing up on DVD list. Two days in a row. How many is it going to add to final sales? 1k? Current guesses by fans in Japan put the first week sales of GirlPan from 22k to 25k.

- JoJo v2 seems to be doing just a bit above Hyouka and Psycho-Pass level. Is it going to sell near vol.1 level or it will drop quite a bit?


DVD Sales Daily Ranking
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24　
*** **2 **1 **4 **2 **1 *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** *** *** **1 **1 **2 *** | -- | KuroBas v8
*** *** *** **2 **3 **3 *** | -- | Yamato2199　v4
*** *** *** **5 **5 *10 *** | -- | New Tennis Prince v6
*** *** *** **3 **4 *11 *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny movie - limited edition
*** *** *** **6 *10 *17 *** | -- | JoJo v2
*** *** *** *11 *13 *26 *** | -- | Psycho-Pass v3
*** *** *** *18 *26 *** *** | -- | Hyouka v9
*** *** *** *13 *27 *** *** | -- | GirlPan v2
*** *** *** *15 *** *** *** | -- | Shirokuma Cafe v8
*** *** *** *21 *** *** *** | -- | Poyopoyo Kansatsu Nikki v4　
*** *** *** *27 *** *** *** | -- | Hiiro no Kakera 2 v2
*** *** *** *30 *** *** *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny movie - regular edition
*** *** **6 *** *** *** *** | -- | Alice Tantei-kyoku v1
*** *12 *16 *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *13 *19 *** *** *** *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III Toushou Kenbunroku ~Another Page~
*** *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | YuruYuri2 v6

BD Sales Daily Ranking
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24　
*** **1 **1 *10 **6 **1 *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** *** *** **2 **4 **3 *** | -- | Yamato2199　v4
*** *** *** **4 **5 **4 *** | -- | Horizon2 v6
*** *** *** **3 **1 **5 *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny movie - limited edition
*** *** *** **1 **3 **6 *** | -- | GirlPan v2
*** *** *** **6 **2 **7 *** | -- | KuroBas v8
*** **4 **4 *20 *12 **8 *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo - family package
*** *** *** **5 **8 **9 *** | -- | JoJo v2
*** **2 **3 *16 *11 *10 *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** *** *** **9 **9 *11 *** | -- | Psycho-Pass v3
*** *** *** **8 *10 *12 *** | -- | Hyouka v9
*** *** *** *12 *14 *13 *** | -- | Total Eclipse v6
*** *** *** **7 *13 *15 *** | -- | MS Gundam 08 Team BD-Box
*** *** *** *11 *16 *17 *** | -- | Eureka AO v9
*** *** *** *13 *18 *** *** | -- | Teekyuu
*** *** *** *** *20 *** *** | -- | New Tennis Prince v6
*** *** *** *17 *** *** *** | -- | Gosick BD- BOX
*** *** *** *18 *** *** *** | -- | Rinne no Langrange 2 v6
*** *** *** *19 *** *** *** | -- | Gundam AGE v13
*** **5 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | YuruYuri2 v6
*** **6 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** **7 *11 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saki Achiga-hen v7
*** **9 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Busou Shinki v3
*** *** *20 *** *** *** *** | -- | JoJo v1
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BokuH v6
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III Toushou Kenbunroku ~Another Page~
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Ideon BD-BOX
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shinsekai Yori v4
**8 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Code Geass: Akito the Exiled v1
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | GirlPan v1

Daily Oricon rankings for the Feb 18~24 week.

Of course, not everything here will end up ranking even on the full list considering how high the DVD/BD thresholds are likely to be. Nothing else new in terms of anime is going to be released on Feb 23 or 24.

GaruPan v2 BD and DVD are now back in stock. Most likely the orders taken after they went out of stock before has been shipped today. That means those units should count for the daily ranking on the 24th, which is good.

DVD Daily
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24
*** *** *** **1 **1 *** *** | -- | KuroBas v8
*** **2 **1 **4 **2 *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** *** *** **2 **3 *** *** | -- | Yamato 2199 v4
*** *** *** **3 **4 *** *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny ~The Beginning~ LE　
*** *** *** **5 **5 *** *** | -- | Shin TeniPri v6
*** *** *** **6 *10 *** *** | -- | JoJo v2
*** *** *** *11 *13 *** *** | -- | Psycho-Pass v3
*** *** *** *18 *26 *** *** | -- | Hyouka v9
*** *** *** *13 *27 *** *** | -- | GirlPan v2
*** *** *** *15 *** *** *** | -- | Shirokuma v8
*** *** *** *21 *** *** *** | -- | Poyopoyo v4
*** *** *** *27 *** *** *** | -- | Hiiro S2 v2
*** *** *** *30 *** *** *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny ~The Beginning~ RE
*** *** **6 *** *** *** *** | -- | Alice Tentei-kyoku v1
*** *12 *16 *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *13 *19 *** *** *** *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III
*** *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuru Yuri♪♪ v6
*21 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Biohazard

BD Daily
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24
*** *** *** **3 **1 *** *** | -- | Tiger & Bunny ~The Beginning~ LE
*** *** *** **6 **2 *** *** | -- | Kurobas v8
*** *** *** **1 **3 *** *** | -- | GirlPan v2
*** *** *** **2 **4 *** *** | -- | Yamato 2199 v4
*** *** *** **4 **5 *** *** | -- | Horizon II v6
*** **1 **1 *10 **6 *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** *** *** **5 **8 *** *** | -- | JoJo v2
*** *** *** **9 **9 *** *** | -- | Psycho-Pass v3
*** *** *** **8 *10 *** *** | -- | Hyouka v9　
*** **2 **3 *16 *11 *** *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** **4 **4 *20 *12 *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo (family package)
*** *** *** **7 *13 *** *** | -- | Gundam 08th BD Box
*** *** *** *12 *14 *** *** | -- | Total Eclipse v6
*** *** *** *11 *16 *** *** | -- | Eureka AO v9
*** *** *** *13 *18 *** *** | -- | Teekyuu
*** *** *** *** *20 *** *** | -- | Shin TeniPri v6
*** *** *** *17 *** *** *** | -- | Gosick BD Box
*** *** *** *18 *** *** *** | -- | LagRin S2 v6
*** *** *** *19 *** *** *** | -- | Gundam AGE v13
*** **5 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | Yuru Yuri♪♪ v6
*** **6 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** **7 *11 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saki Achiga-hen episode of side-A v7
*** **9 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Busou Shinki v3
*** *** *20 *** *** *** *** | -- | JoJo v1
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BokuH v6
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Ideon BD BOX
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shinsekai Yori v4
**2 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Biohazard
**8 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Code Geass: Akito the Exiled v1
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | GirlPan v1

Oh, wow. That's pretty high. I guess a second season is pretty much guaranteed at this point. That's good to hear since I really like that show.

You can start by reading the first 2 posts of this thread:
http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=560889&show=0#msg20127025

Oh, thanks. I usually don't follow the sales charts so I didn't know. How high did GirlPan Vol. 1 get?

I'm glad that Chuunibyou and Yuru Yuri are doing well. Those shows deserve the sales. GirlPan and Shinsekai Yori don't seem to be doing all that well right now.

Daily Sales Ranking from Oricon so far.

Note: if there is a popular title and you do not see it here (e.g. Girls und Panzer v2) it is because the release date is today (though some shops started to sell them yesterday). I will update this list when sales information for this later batch is made available later.


DVD Daily
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24　
*** **2 **1 *** *** *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** *** **6 *** *** *** *** | -- | Alice Tentei-kyoku v1
*** *12 *16 *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *13 *19 *** *** *** *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** *15 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III - Touhou Kenbun-roku Another Page
*** *24 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** *29 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | YuruYuri2 v6

BD Daily
*18 *19 *20 *21 *22 *23 *24　
*** **1 **1 *** *** *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo
*** **2 **3 *** *** *** *** | -- | Chuunibyou v3
*** **4 **4 *** *** *** *** | -- | Ookami Kodomo (family package)
*** **5 **7 *** *** *** *** | -- | YuruYuri2 v6
*** **6 **9 *** *** *** *** | -- | Jintai v6
*** **7 *11 *** *** *** *** | -- | Saki Achigahen episode of side-A v7
*** **9 *15 *** *** *** *** | -- | Busou Shinki v3
*** *** *20 *** *** *** *** | -- | JoJo v1
*** *13 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | BokuH v6
*** *14 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Lupin III - Touhou Kenbun-roku Another Page
*** *16 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | KamiHaji v3
*** *18 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Ideon BD BOX
*** *19 *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Shinsekai Yori v4
**8 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | Code Geass: Akito the Exiled v1
*20 *** *** *** *** *** *** | -- | GirlPan v1

The calm before the storm... GuP v2 has shipped!

No date has been announced yet. It will be shown in some theaters first before the BD is released, and even for that the schedule is not fixed. The best that we know is simply that the theater release date is sometime this summer.

When is Code Geass: Boukoku no Akito 2 coming out ? cause the first 1 keeps selling well

Bam. Even though it's quality of animation is crap, I'll be buying it once Sentai Filmworks releases it, along with its second Season. Might as well as buy it to make my collection Complete of Key DVD/BD's

GirlPan vol.2 does not have any supply issue as far as I see. I guess the sales of vol.1 has given Bandai pretty good idea of how many copies to print and distribute. At the moment, it seems the sales can come very close to what has been achieved by vol.1

As I said in my post, animation issue is not what fans in Japan worry most. And in this case, your educated guess that "the animation quality is probably the biggest issue with Little Busters" does not ring quite true. And that would mean that Warner Brothers may not have made such a bad decision by adopting the animation with the quality that we are seeing. But on the other hand, they obviously failed in some other aspects to appeal to fans, either fans of the original VN or anime fans who have not played the VN, but I don't see how perceived animation quality as the biggest issue with LB!

And you were complaining "they were upset it wasn't selling more even with the little budget it had", but as I said, who knows how much budget it really had? If you choose to stick with your theory that it must have very low budget purely because of a very low perceived animation quality (which I have to say, is debatable in comparison of other series in this season), then of course you find it hard to understand. But perhaps the budget is not really that low (I am not talking about bottomless budget but a reasonably good amount) and so it is valid for the production to be disappointed? All I suggest is not to stick to misconceived idea and try to take a more comprehensive view.

Smybv, if all you want is for us to give you documentation of how much each company budgeted for their anime, we obviously won't be doing that. Making educated guesses is the best we can do, and my educated guess is that Little Busters was done on a shoestring budget since Warner Brothers thought its name recognition was enough to sell it. Hell, they were upset it wasn't selling more even with the little budget it had, so I think they were just thinking that Key fans were diehards who'd buy anything regardless of how much money they spent on it.

I wish Psycho Pass would do a little better, though at least it's in the middle and not at the bottom.

Well from over 30 current shows I am watching I do not see how Little Busters have really "some of the worst" animation. Perhaps it is not moving as much as, say, Vividred but it is not worse than GJ-bu or Shinsekai Yori for example. And do we see any out-of-character bad animation like in Total Eclipse? No, but then Total Eclipse did not do very badly, did it?

It seems it is only your own speculation. From what I read in Japanese forums, the animation is far from a major issue for fans. Story, adaptation choices, and series composition got far more complaints.

Well, my point, again, is Perceived Animation Quality difference does not necessarily translate into Budget difference. You two commit the common mistake of confusing perceived animation density with budget. But as my example of Nobuna vs Saki Achiga-hen shows, better perceived animation quality does not mean more money being spent. The truth is we don't know the inner workings of an anime production enough or details of anime production process to judge how much budget an anime has based purely on how well we perceive the animation quality. You can argue that a certain anime has better perceived animation quality all you like (as it is your perception), but this is no basis for you to jump to conclusion that the budget is thus necessarily bigger for the anime project (and the budget has to go to pay for a lot of things other than animators' bill anyway). As much as I agree the animation in Sakuraso looks fresher and more pleasing, I would not jump to conclusion that it means Sakurao has a bigger budget, much less "a much bigger" budget as you are claiming.

Anyone that isn't blind in both eyes could see that Sakurasou has a way higher budget than Little Busters! If you're unable to see that I feel sorry for you.

Just by looking @ Both shows I can see that sakurasou as better Background animation quality, better character drawing qualities and doesn't stand around in a frame for over 6 seconds every 10+ each episode for something pointless. Little Busters! has had many screw ups, and if you watched the show you would notice.

And if it doesn't have a higher budget than the animators need to go back to school. http://myanimelist.net/people/10678/Iizuka_Haruko pretty sure she could of done better, judging by some of her past work.