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Nov 13, 2007 4:11 AM
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Best episode. The red aircrafts looked pretty cool. Overall this show had nice animations for everything around but regarding the characters it lacked detail. The music was pretty good. 6/10

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Nov 13, 2007 4:49 AM
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I had to rate it lower at 4/10. Trying to pack all that story into 3 episodes left everything rushed and a mess. If they would have given it more episodes to flesh out the characters and storyline it probably would have fared much better.

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Nov 13, 2007 7:52 PM
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the end confused the hell outta me....maybe cause its been a while sine i watched ep1 and 2....but still i dont feel like goin back to watch eps of a sub par OVA...4/10

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Nov 13, 2007 8:46 PM
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It's been awhile since I saw eps 1 and 2 so it was confusing but I remember enjoying the series. I didn't get too attached to any character though, except for maybe Hitomi a bit. Wish they had more character development.

Yuki's voice bothered the living crap out of me though. I couldn't stand it.

6/10

Btw, does anyone know the title of the ending song? Actually, I think there might be two. If there are, I mean the title of the first ending song that plays.
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Nov 14, 2007 9:20 AM
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Yuki's voice bothered the living crap out of me though. I couldn't stand it.


Seriously. It seemed like her seiyuu had a cold. And maybe next time putting a little feeling in the voice wouldn't hurt.

Overall, I didn't like this series much. From start to finish it was a little confusing. Maybe if it wasn't an OVA of only 3 episodes, they could have expanded a little bit the story, but as it is now it's not enough. The animation was good though.

Nov 16, 2007 12:01 AM
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Best ep out of the three as Cyruz said. I enjoyed this series for what it was, but it was rushed like hell, could have been much better with more eps, but whatever. 7/10.
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Nov 17, 2007 12:19 AM
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Ok their is a serious lacking of discussion on what the true ending is here so I will post my thoughts and pleeeese post yours as me and three friends are almost in a monkey knife fight over it.

Ok blond gets hit with a van and is in the hospital in a coma, while in a coma she occupies the mind of her future self and watches how the future could play out, falls in love with nazil yuki and treasures her broach before dyeing. After the captin dies the blond returns to her own body, when her brother gives her yuki's broach she remembers the future. Now after shes all healed up at the hospital shes overlooking tokyo in its distruction and all signs point to the future she saw while in a coma is coming true and shes face with the choice of what to do to avoid that outcome.

The problems with the above is: The captin wasnt pregnant, if yuki gives her the broach in the future how does the blond have it before the accident in the past. If it was a true trip to the future and the broach was carried back if effected the present to avoid a paradox and the blond also became pregnant. If thats true maybee the girl who is talking about being in the whom while tokyo dies is the blonds daughter. so that would make the the 2nd last scene with that girl and they boy come true but why does he have the broach now. Also why is that same girl who was in the whom talking in the first ova.

Where do these two damn kids fit into the timeline for pete sake, if they would have left them out it would have been a simple to understand ending instead of one to piss us off.

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Nov 17, 2007 2:20 AM
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lolz iceblu3710, no thanks. The ending was confusing as hell, but what the heck ^^.
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Nov 17, 2007 9:42 AM
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I'd go for it if they released the OVAs closer together, but as it is now I hardly remember anything from the first two episodes. I plan to re-watch this later since it seems to have some really interesting themes.
Jan 17, 2008 6:32 PM

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So i've seen all the ova over and over and i get somethings, but the rest is fuzzy.

What I get;
First of all the two hitomi are different. ONe just occupies the mind of the other but they are differnt people.
Second, the girl talking in the opening and the one at the end are differen't two.

I think wha was supposed to happen or my interpretation is this. The blonde hitomi when she was hit entered the mind of the captain hitomi and witnessed the future so she could save it. When she wakes up she is holding the broach because she needed it to remebr about the future. Then 26 years later she is now in the future and she is goign to save it.

What i don't get is that why she has the boach and what those two kids are about. Is that the blond ones daughter or what and whats with the boy and the broach. Why do they have that. Is that yukis mom or something but ti doens't maek sense cause she says cathc up to me refering to the blond hitomi so who is she? Is this scene after the fix the world up and there are men or what?

This anime was a bit confusing but i liek the complex story, i jsut wish i understood it more.
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I actually really loved this anime, and i wished they could make it into a full fleshed series but i guess not enough want for it and it was a promo thing

Aug 6, 2008 10:57 AM

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O_O

I got the feeling that yuki was actually the daughter of the blond chick, and as she did say she was a virgin, she might had something to do with all the original ICE project... so Yuki actually is the only human that can use the ICE project and have a male baby. for the 2 kinds, that boy is Yuki's son after she used that ICE thingy on her... and well... the girl... I have no idea where she came from.



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It is not often that I see anime which leaves me with absolutely no idea of what score to give. But this one did it in a good sense, so I am rating it very positively at 9/10 (with the only minus being the rather poor voice acting for most characters).
Dec 17, 2009 8:38 PM

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"Goodnight - End"? That's it? Are you kidding me?

Lady Kisaragi died. Giulia died. Aoi died, and yay for that. Mint died, and who cares. Murasaki died, and I raged. Lastly, Hitomi (=main character) died too. So, basically the only decent character alive now is Satsuki. Good job.

I don't understand how those siblings are related to the story. It's not clear if Yuki died/stayed frozen in the Ice forever and gave birth to that baby, or what. The meaning and of the 2 Towers is unknown. The story is barely explained at all, they only keep repeating "all men died" continuously.
Also, this anime has 3 different character designs: the siblings, the main story, and the scene with the kids at the end are all drawn by different people. I wonder why.
You even hear the voice of a narrator (who is involved with the story) that is not recognizable. Who the hell is it? Also, why so many unecessary ecchi scenes? Why the gore that makes the anime look like Mars Of Destruction? And who are those 2 random kids? Seriously. What a messy, confusing thing.

I'll decide the rating later, but it's not going to be high. What a shame, if only the interesting main concept was executed better and the characters were decent this OAV series would have been fairly good.

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well, i think that the blond girl was pregnant of yuki with the ICE, MAybe when she entered to the hospitel, so she see the future meanwhile she's in coma.
and yuki use the ICE and kill satsuki, because she scream at the end, or maybe the kid born because she was the baby with ICE, buy in the first ova her mother wasn't the blonde girl sooo.
the kids in the end are the only ones that survive after yuki injected the ICE to her, i don't get - . -

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Jul 5, 2010 5:56 PM
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THe ending was confusing as HELL!!!! Here's what i concluded as best as i could...

the blonde hitomi gets these visions of the future while she is in a coma...i think that the baby she gives birth to is maybe the boy at the end?? who gives the pendant to the girl...like passing on the mothers prized possession kind of thing? and maybe those two kids are yuki's parents??? THis is a wild guess but its the only thing that made some sort of sense...what i didn't get was what did it mean by she had to catch up with someone, and how the blonde (past) hitomi was going to take the visions to try and prevent the future she saw....

Man i hate it when things are so unclear like this...i can take a little mystery, but this is just crazy. Talk about making my head swirl :P
Jul 11, 2010 11:44 PM

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This OVA was a mess in almost every regard. I wanted to care but I just couldn't, the hamfisted execution made it impossible to enjoy (for me).
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Well, for the third time in a row the ova failed to explain anything, which hurt the overall experience real bad. This ep, in fact, just piles on new questions that will never be fully explained.

Overall tho the show was pretty awful, not even the enjoyable, funny awful, just the 'I'm confused as fuck' type of awful. I have to give a low score for this, 1/10.
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I tried my best to give it a shot and actually to try to understand it but nop still confusing as hell! the last episode brought even more questions! and who the fuck r those two children at the end???

what a waste of time...
May 10, 2022 6:56 AM
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wasnt there a baby guy at the latter part after yuki seemed to use the thing on the case? suspecting it's the kiddo at the end holding the broach. and for the girl, maybe it's blonde hitomi's daughter? (weird though bc the timelines are so far)

dont understand how blonde got pregnant all of the sudden lol... and murasaki,,, rest in peace poor bub
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Very irregular the season...... also this 3rd epiosde was poor with a ridicolous solution/resolution.

It could have been so much better, but the mix of genres has self-destructed it.


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It was confusing, but it was cool
Mar 14, 2023 5:44 AM
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i THINK that was actually 2 girls at the end maybe

the ending is just what

the series was rushed and had serious internal logic fails but up until the ending i could follow it and found it the kind of work that could inspire a better story

but the ending is just WHAT

some ways to fix the plot to work

remove blond hitomi entirely as that never amounted to anything out side the head ache ending

and remove the stupid "we can only eat preserved foods" nonsense

then at the end yuki still uses ice and produces a daughter and we now have a good ending humanity will survive they can reproduce with ice and you can even have it stated they find a way to stop the stasis thing eventually

i say daughter because i assume the virus that killed all men is still existing

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