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Oct 15, 2013 8:55 AM
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Natsume <333

I wasn't expecting an attack during that dinner date though. Poor Natsume ;.;. I'm still not used to the CG of this series yet though. Suzuka surprised me somewhat this episode.

Hokuto's interference did surprise me though. ;.;
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Oct 15, 2013 9:02 AM
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Look like this is first serious Project by Studio 8 bit aside from Ecchi
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Oct 15, 2013 11:09 AM
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I like how Natsume snapped when Harutora said Suzuka has her cute moments haha
Harutora, the guy behind him, and the waitress were all shaking lol

Oh man, Hokuto </3. That flashback scene and Harutora running while crying was so sad. The song on that part was perfect.
The ending scene was also nice.

Really enjoyed this episode.
Oct 15, 2013 11:47 AM
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OK episode. The story getting intriguing, but the execution made Harutora look dumb when he tried to save a guy and fell down to the ground. That execution was stagnant and irritating, which made me think "Why doesn't he stand up quickly?" I think it was a crucial moment cuz she was killed. It made me think she might not have been killed if he had stood up and moved away. Natsume is likable, but Hokuto was more likable. I personally shipped Harutora x Hokuto.

The 3D CG was so realistic it made the robots look out of place. Also the sound effect was so loud I had to lower the volume, which made it difficult to hear the characters well. The loud sound effect would've been fine if I had watched the show at a theater.
Oct 15, 2013 11:53 AM
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they both have the same nickname for him? Stupid-Tora, coincidence? or is there a connection there I wonder.
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Oct 15, 2013 12:03 PM
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I'm confused about how I feel about this show.
There are bits I really like and bits I can't stand. For start, no anger at Hokuto dying? Really? She was your best friend (alongside that guy) and love interest yet he didn't burst into anger when she was killed.

Now, I know he'd have died as well if he confronted the evil little girl and not attacking certainly was rational decision, but I doubt ANYONE would be able to be rational at what just happened.

It reminds of (somewhat) of Kaze no stigma, hell, if he gained powers after Hokuto died I'd call it identical, yet it doesn't make me feel as excited or eager to watch more as KnS did.
So far the story is predictable, except for him becoming familiar, even by anime standards where most stories are similar. That wouldn't really be an issue if it was executed properly. Hokuto was cute and kind, but there just wasn't enough screen time for her so far to make her death really big deal. She was there just to move the plot forward, I hate those kind of characters.

I don't hate the show, I just feel like something is missing to make it better.
Oct 15, 2013 12:46 PM
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I'm confused about how I feel about this show.
There are bits I really like and bits I can't stand. For start, no anger at Hokuto dying? Really? She was your best friend (alongside that guy) and love interest yet he didn't burst into anger when she was killed.


Did we watch the same episode or something? He was clearly goddamn upset. He doesn't need to be breaking things to show it.

Now, I know he'd have died as well if he confronted the evil little girl and not attacking certainly was rational decision, but I doubt ANYONE would be able to be rational at what just happened.


I got no idea what your talking about here...

It reminds of (somewhat) of Kaze no stigma, hell, if he gained powers after Hokuto died I'd call it identical, yet it doesn't make me feel as excited or eager to watch more as KnS did.
So far the story is predictable, except for him becoming familiar, even by anime standards where most stories are similar. That wouldn't really be an issue if it was executed properly. Hokuto was cute and kind, but there just wasn't enough screen time for her so far to make her death really big deal. She was there just to move the plot forward, I hate those kind of characters.


This has been an established writing technique that has been used in literature for thousands years. There nothing wrong with at all and just because Hokuto died does mean she wasn't likable or didn't have any character. It's fine if don't like it, but it was no means done horribly because it was used to forward the plot.
Oct 15, 2013 1:01 PM
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All seems a bit rushed and coincidental, like how Hokuto got in the way just as Harutora was in a pinch after not speaking in weeks but I still find this a great watch.

I see the blonde girl becoming an ally of sorts in the future.
Oct 15, 2013 1:10 PM
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It hasn't been weeks since he last saw Hokuto, only a day. If were that long Natsume would have been back inTokyo by then. There also nothing odd with them meeting again either they live in the same town.
Oct 15, 2013 1:50 PM
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Hmm still not too sure what to think of this yet, but now that Harutora is Natsume's familiar now, things should get more interesting. It was quite the surprise that Hokuto was a shikigami, and sad that she died though. Btw that was a weird ceremonial thing that Natsume had to do to make Harutora her familiar. I was pretty mesmerized by what Harutora saw as well when he opened his eyes. Also, it's probably just me, but I found the animation a little weird when Harutora was running in the rain.
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Pretty good episode, getting better, lotsa drama.
Oct 15, 2013 2:34 PM
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I'm kind of confused. Was Hokuto a familiar?? Why did she turn into that paper and if so who's familiar was she?
Oct 15, 2013 2:37 PM

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Decent episode, wonder who made hokuto
Oct 15, 2013 2:40 PM

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Good episode.
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I'm kind of confused. Was Hokuto a familiar?? Why did she turn into that paper and if so who's familiar was she?


Yes Hokuto was a familiar, as for who made her and for what reason she was made....I'll leave that up to your imagination.
Oct 15, 2013 3:28 PM

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Damn that was deep for a second episode. Messed up how he had to lose one of his best friends to see the importance of his role. I think if Hokuto been in this episode a little more her death would had been a lot sadder. Still a good episode. Wonder if Harutora is going to kick Suzuka's ass next episode.
Also did anybody else think how Natsume made Harutora into a familiar was hot?
Oct 15, 2013 3:35 PM

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Damn, it seriously sucks that they killed off Hokuto that quick....
and also did she really have to do that ritual with her tongue??? LOL
Oct 15, 2013 3:45 PM

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Hokuto !!!!!!!!!! TwT

Harutora accepts his destiny!!!

Whoa she is a shikigami?? I wonder if Harutora created her becasue he doesn't have any siblings
Oct 15, 2013 4:27 PM

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00:26 CHUU〜<3

01:49 Beeburr spotted

02:06 dat lolilick〜

04:52 well, they did make their kyara dezain look alike

07:43 LOOOOL haremu banzai? −_−

08:23 naisu torappu

12:43 tenta... i mean web action!!!

13:01 when'll she unleash Hokuto no Ken?

13:27 dat burakon

17:12 NOOOOOOO

19:41 so cuteeee <3

Bring back our beloved Hokuto =(((((
I think Summereye made her.
7/10 for this ep.
ShirubaasouruOct 15, 2013 4:31 PM
Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances.
He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter.
Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga.
Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month.
Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel.
The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck.
Oct 15, 2013 4:34 PM

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I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.
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Fiji said:
I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.


Why do you think Natsume is Hokuto owner ?
Oct 15, 2013 4:47 PM
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Ignis_Scientia said:
Fiji said:
I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.


Why do you think Natsume is Hokuto owner ?


Cause.... Baka-tora *smirks*
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Xinception said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
Fiji said:
I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.


Why do you think Natsume is Hokuto owner ?


Cause.... Baka-tora *smirks*


Okay so Do you think Hakuto is control Type Shikigami ( Like avatar or Robot) or Stand alone type (act on her own) ?
Oct 15, 2013 5:01 PM

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I wonder who's familiar Hokuto was?
Oct 15, 2013 5:06 PM

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that was a terrible episode. dropped.
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Ignis_Scientia said:
Xinception said:
Ignis_Scientia said:
Fiji said:
I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.


Why do you think Natsume is Hokuto owner ?


Cause.... Baka-tora *smirks*


Okay so Do you think Hakuto is control Type Shikigami ( Like avatar or Robot) or Stand alone type (act on her own) ?


Hmm... either I can blackjack Dr. Who and get his TARDIS to get me dat answer or read the manga....

Hm... Decisions decisions....

I'mma go with guessing then xD.. Control-Type *smirks*
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I'm going to keep watching for a bit longer, but if this anime's plot and animation keep feeling so dull, I think I'm going to drop it. Please, be better next episode Tokyo Ravens!
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Xinception said:


Hmm... either I can blackjack Dr. Who and get his TARDIS to get me dat answer or read the manga....

Hm... Decisions decisions....

I'mma go with guessing then xD.. Control-Type *smirks*


@@ You really suspicious
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Ignis_Scientia said:
Xinception said:


Hmm... either I can blackjack Dr. Who and get his TARDIS to get me dat answer or read the manga....

Hm... Decisions decisions....

I'mma go with guessing then xD.. Control-Type *smirks*


@@ You really suspicious


Hmm.... Imma guess that I got it right then! Dat luck *smirks*.
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Ignis_Scientia said:
Fiji said:
I have been waiting for that moment, where Natsume performs the ceremony to make Harutora her familiar. Damn.

It was also sad to see that Hokuto is a familiar. I just need to know who is her owner... I assume it might be Natsume herself.


Why do you think Natsume is Hokuto owner ?


Well, it is just a hunch. Also, in the OP, they are placed in one frame, where it shows Natsume, then Hokuto when the image change. They are basically in the same position. That is why I think Hokuto is Natsume's shikigami.
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I think Hokuto is definitely Natsume's familiar. What everyone said so far are all the same reasons I thought so as well.

Great second episode. Hopefully it'll keep getting better.
Oct 15, 2013 7:45 PM
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loved this episode and the opening song still kicks ass also it now says this is 24 episodes on MAL so excited for this series
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Baka-tora kind of gave it away hehe ^^ I'll come back when Kon is introduced.
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Oct 15, 2013 8:18 PM

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Hokuto T_T

is she coming back? she is a familar right can she be summon again? can somebody spoil me...
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Hokuto T_T

is she coming back? she is a familar right can she be summon again? can somebody spoil me...


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na35899 said:
Hokuto T_T

is she coming back? she is a familar right can she be summon again? can somebody spoil me...


[spoil]No, she will never comeback .Hokuto is Control Type Shikigami and directly controlled by Natsume . She created Hokuto so she can stay by Harutora side when she was away and use to push him to become omnyouji . As long as , he already became her shikigami and being kept in check 24 hour by herself ,there no need to create an avatar . [/spoil]
makes since and they do look similar and explains why hokoto loves him as i know natsume dose
Oct 15, 2013 8:41 PM

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That gave me some feels. That sucks, since I liked her character...was even shipping Harutora x Hokuto up until this episode ended.

I wonder if Hokuto was

I hope he starts kicking some ass from now on.

Update: Didn't read post above mine before, but now that I did...still a sad panda, because she really had soul to her character.
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2 cons so far:

- CG
- The sound during battles or when they mix dialogue with OST.. its terrible.

If not for ^ , great episode.
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The bgm still bug me. Anyway it is great episode.
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Oct 15, 2013 10:57 PM
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A death already wow, did not expect it. Great episode but I think he had like a good 2-3 seconds to dodge that.
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i think this episode alone made me drop this from a 7 to a 6.
seriously this mc is a fucking retard. oh lets be the nice guy and save the loli. oh wait, i just dived in front of her enraged monster to save some nobody and then the woman i neglected jumps in and sacrifice herself. but wait, that's not all. now ill change my mind and want to kill that loli cause it's all her fault! ok time to go and get dem powers to do so. yippee i got licked by my childhood friend and now i can see them funky lights. i shall seek my revenge!

seriously? will watch show for dat loli. mc can fuck himself and go get his other childhood friend killed too cause hes a fucking retard.
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Better than I was expecting.
After the first episode, which I completely forgot about, I went into this with no excitement. Halfway through I was kind of into it.
Oct 15, 2013 11:34 PM
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let me draw all over your face with my tongue

bai bai to Hokuto I guess
Oct 16, 2013 12:25 AM

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Wow! Best friend dead & hes running away cying in the rain after that hahahahaha! This is a action anime right not a comedy?
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Did Hokuto just died? Wha... I like her...

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I'm confused about how I feel about this show.
There are bits I really like and bits I can't stand. For start, no anger at Hokuto dying? Really? She was your best friend (alongside that guy) and love interest yet he didn't burst into anger when she was killed.

Now, I know he'd have died as well if he confronted the evil little girl and not attacking certainly was rational decision, but I doubt ANYONE would be able to be rational at what just happened.

It reminds of (somewhat) of Kaze no stigma, hell, if he gained powers after Hokuto died I'd call it identical, yet it doesn't make me feel as excited or eager to watch more as KnS did.
So far the story is predictable, except for him becoming familiar, even by anime standards where most stories are similar. That wouldn't really be an issue if it was executed properly. Hokuto was cute and kind, but there just wasn't enough screen time for her so far to make her death really big deal. She was there just to move the plot forward, I hate those kind of characters.

I don't hate the show, I just feel like something is missing to make it better.


People had different ways of coping with grieve. Notice how he change his tune to that bitch when Hokuto died. Also notice the rain of angst and the sudden decison to be a familiar.

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Hokuto was a shikigami... WHAT?? That really surprised me. Actually expected Harutora to ask Natsume revive Hokuto or make another familiar like her. Too bad he didn't. That's such a pity, they looked so funny together.

The blond girl is being stupid, i don't get her reasoning at all. What's the point of revivng someone precious to you and giving your life for it? Won't you normally think of revivng someone to be WITH him? Hope she won't end up becoming Baka-Tora's friend after they fight her.
But her idea to put familiar inside Harutora during their kiss was brilliant.

Nevertheless i do enjoy the show, it's one of the best anime airing this season.
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i think this episode alone made me drop this from a 7 to a 6.
seriously this mc is a fucking retard. oh lets be the nice guy and save the loli. oh wait, i just dived in front of her enraged monster to save some nobody and then the woman i neglected jumps in and sacrifice herself. but wait, that's not all. now ill change my mind and want to kill that loli cause it's all her fault! ok time to go and get dem powers to do so. yippee i got licked by my childhood friend and now i can see them funky lights. i shall seek my revenge!

seriously? will watch show for dat loli. mc can fuck himself and go get his other childhood friend killed too cause hes a fucking retard.


Um what? So Harutora is retard for saving someone and it's now magically his fault that his best friend showed up to protect him and died? That's like saying a guy is idiot for saying a baby from traffic accident and then it's mother suddenly hits by random car out of nowhere and it's fault.

WTF are even angry about here?

Wow! Best friend dead & hes running away cying in the rain after that hahahahaha! This is a action anime right not a comedy?


The only thing comedic here is how you understand even when it's as simple as it and your basic lack of any empathy. Listen "internet badass" he wasn't running home to go cry he went to Natsume so he stop this crazy chick and finally face his family's heritage. Most normal people wouldn't even done that and would of went on sulking more days or weeks.

Harutora manned up and took responsibility and at least grant her last wish.
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That was actually a pretty damn good episode. I still don't know why some found the episode funny. And a few here are finding contradiction in Harutora's actions. I actually found his actions quite rational than most other MCs in anime. He was probably taking life a bit easy despite being related to spiritual phenomena or didn't really want to get involved due to his lack of spiritual powers. But after seeing Hokuto confessing to him in her final moments, passing away in his arms from an injury she took while trying to save him, and not even knowing that she had been a shikigami all along, there you have three big triggers to change his entire life. The way he stared back at Suzuka compared to when he was trying to sympathize her situation shows the impact it had on him surrounding the whole thing about Hokuto.

Anyways, this episode was great in my book and I will give it a 5/5. The flashback scene was nicely done and I really am interested to know how Hokuto came to be. Whether she was ever a human or always a shikigami and who actually created her. To see her giving her life away for Harutora, I cannot but think that she was actually his familiar.

The end scenes were interesting as well. Since Harutora now gave away his freedom and became Natsume's familiar.

Upped my rating for this anime to an 8/10. Cannot wait to see more of this anime already and I am glad that another seemingly good anime will be running for two seasons!
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Wow! Best friend dead & hes running away cying in the rain after that hahahahaha! This is a action anime right not a comedy?


The only thing comedic here is how you understand even when it's as simple as it and your basic lack of any empathy. Listen "internet badass" he wasn't running home to go cry he went to Natsume so he stop this crazy chick and finally face his family's heritage. Most normal people wouldn't even done that and would of went on sulking more days or weeks.

Harutora manned up and took responsibility and at least grant her last wish.


Yeah, i know they try to set up a tragic for the hero to rise thing BUT the way its done kinda lame in my opinion(trust me i love cliche in shonen anime). I hope after this ep i can get to watch some cool action scenes.
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